Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2016 December 10

= December 10 =

Donation problem
Wow, I really want to give a cash donation again this year, but every time I tap the "Amazon" option I see a screen with about 10 lines of text, starting with "you agree to share your personal information."

Then the screen quickly is replaced by the Amazon login page!!! And the back button doesn't work!!!!! (iPhone 5s iOS 9.1) Sorry, I'm not typing in any of my info when I'm not allowed to read those terms. Fix it asap or better luck next year. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1014:B052:910B:E9EF:30C5:F5E:372E (talk) 06:48, 10 December 2016 (UTC)


 * The Paypal donation option says: "By donating, you agree to share your personal information with the Wikimedia Foundation, the nonprofit organization that hosts Wikipedia and other Wikimedia projects, and its service providers pursuant to our donor policy. Wikimedia Foundation and its service providers are located in the United States and in other countries whose privacy laws may not be equivalent to your own. We do not sell or trade your information to anyone. For more information please read our donor policy." I don't know whether the Amazon version has the same text.   D b f i r s   08:34, 10 December 2016 (UTC)

Search for files on Wikipedia, but not on Commons
At the Special:Search page, there is an "Advanced" tab, where I can select the "File" namespace. Unfortunately, the search results mostly contain files from Commons. How can I filter the search results, for them to contain only Wikipedia files, and exclude Commons ones? --Djadjko (talk) 00:13, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Add the prefix  to whatever you are searching for. For more information see mw:Help:CirrusSearch --Majora (talk) 00:19, 10 December 2016 (UTC)

Brooksbank baronets
please fix ref number 6 and leave in quote - it is not from a newspaper and I need your help if that is OK. Thankyou101.182.188.199 (talk) 01:49, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
 * † dismas †|(talk) 02:02, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
 * For the umpteenth time, please read what the "publisher" parameter (if used) should contain, see Template:Cite web. It says "Name of publisher"; it doesn't say "Date" (for which there is a parameter named "date"), and it doesn't say "URL" (for which there is a parameter "url").  Looking at another of your edits to the same article, it isn't appropriate for the "publisher" parameter to contain " ";  the name of the publisher, if you want to include it, is simply "Heraldic Media Limited".  If you don't understand what the "publisher" parameter should include, please leave it blank. --David Biddulph (talk) 09:33, 10 December 2016 (UTC)

How can I add a question in brackets?
hello guys, new here! I've wanted to ask in a question in a specific article, that tells of a deal made in France during the 18th century, that specifies how much was paid. But I'd like to add a little bracket that says {75 million what?} because that could tell something about the nature of the treaty (whether it's franks or pounds).

Any help would be greatly appreciate!:) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.53.23.202 (talk) 03:10, 10 December 2016 (UTC)


 * The article's talk page might be a good place to ask the question. Which article was it?    D b f i r s   08:38, 10 December 2016 (UTC)


 * I think you're looking for the clarify tag, to put in the article. Maproom (talk) 09:57, 10 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Yes, as above, or possibly the quantify tag, to put in the article. Hogyn Lleol (talk) 10:06, 10 December 2016 (UTC)


 * It's not directly related to this example, but in case it comes in handy later, there are also some specific templates for asking for clarification (such as when): see the list at Inline cleanup tags.--Gronk Oz (talk) 10:59, 10 December 2016 (UTC)

About uploading pictures
I am a new user of Wiki.Im not able to upload pictures.would you pls help me by telling the reason for thisSiva1331 (talk) 06:47, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
 * You need to make at least 10 edits to become autoconfirmed before you are able to upload images. Ruslik_ Zero 08:48, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
 * If the picture has a free license then you can upload it right away at commons:Special:UploadWizard and use it in Wikipedia. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:47, 10 December 2016 (UTC)

updation about kayastha community
kayasthas are purely suryavanshi kshatriyas. Rig ved and yajur ved gives pure and full accounts of this. There real caste name is SHRI BRAHMA KAYASTHA RAJANYA where rajanya is the real word for kshatriyas according to rig ved purush sukta. And rajputs are not real kshatriyas they claim to be kshatriyas by giving false proofs of ancient lineage they are foreigners to indians. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.5.4.232 (talk) 09:08, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
 * This comment probably belongs on the talk page of whichever article it refers to. Maproom (talk) 10:00, 10 December 2016 (UTC)

Website in infobox & external links
Is there any policy on whether a website should (or shouldn't) be listed in the "External Links" section of an article if it's also listed in the infobox?

No running battles regarding it - it's just something I've often wondered. External links does mention both infobox and external links, but not what to do if both are present. Does it even matter? Chaheel Riens (talk) 10:57, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
 * , if you look at the question in a different way: "Is there any policy on whether a website should (or shouldn't) be listed in the infobox section of an article if it's also listed in the "External Links"?" The answer is yes, because many mobile viewers never reach the bottom of the page and for them, the infobox serves as a great one-stop summary. So yeah, there's no issue in having the links in both the places. Lourdes  12:46, 10 December 2016 (UTC)

Why has User:Bishonen deleted my user page?
I have just started to create a page when User:Bishonen deleted it. Why did she do this and how is she able to? Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by AlternateAs  (talk • contribs) 16:27, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi AlternateAs - As stated at User:AlternateAs the reason was "U5: Blatant misuse of Wikipedia as a web host" click on the coloured phrases for a more detailed explanation of the policy/guideline - Arjayay (talk) 16:37, 10 December 2016 (UTC)


 * AlternateAs, when I deleted your userpage, I also posted an explanation on your user talkpage, User talk:AlternateAs, which I hope you will find helpful. Bishonen &#124; talk 16:56, 10 December 2016 (UTC).

Change photo on existing page
HELP i hav e been trying to change this photo for 6 months!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_library has an image that is old outdate and frankly incorrect. School librarian with card files (Minnesota, 1974)

I have tried to upload numerous times. First it told me I did not have permission. not it is telling me that a photo already exists. Please I just want to the new photo placed! I tried to attach here and it tells me the photo already exists

I cannot attached the copyright release is says the file type is banned, I could use some assistance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rettechlms (talk • contribs) 17:23, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I see that you uploaded File:MS3.png over at Commons. Is that the one you are looking for? Just because the file card image is older does not mean it should be summarily removed. I'm sure there are still some libraries somewhere that use file cards. You can add an image to the page though. --Majora (talk) 17:33, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Hello, . Now that you have uploaded a photo to Commons, you could use it in the article. Since you appear to be a new user, it might be a good idea to work with other users on the article talk page Talk:School library on how best to do that. Since the use of the current photo is to show clerical duties of a librarian, and your photo has a different focus, a simple replacement would not be appropriate. As you were advised above and in reply to your previous post, the old photo might be kept for historical value. Perhaps new text might be added using new both photos, telling that old card files are replaced by computer databases. —teb728 t c 23:56, 10 December 2016 (UTC)

so why can I still not post to creep catcher talk page?
I have done the adventure, I verified my cites in the sandbox asked if I was putting up too much information all no. At first it would only allow me to put up small parts from my sandbox not the entire article and then as soon as I got anything up there is was reverted. 4 cites were not enough to justify my changes so I found an additonal 30+ could that be the problemTruthitmatters (talk) 19:51, 10 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Ping, who reverted. May have mistaken a good faith effort to provide sources? Timothy Joseph Wood  20:11, 10 December 2016 (UTC)

Canvassing
Hi, have been more or less canvassed to take part in an AFD about a film director because I deprodded one of his films. Should I comment or stay away? thanks Atlantic306 (talk) 21:44, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi . If you wish to comment, do please go ahead, but make a full disclosure of how you reached the Afd (that is, mention the fact that you were contacted to comment, and give the permalink to the diff of such an invitation). Ask here again if this is not clear. Enjoy. Lourdes  04:54, 11 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks, will do Atlantic306 (talk) 05:02, 11 December 2016 (UTC)

Why I will never again donate to Wikipedia
When Wikipedia stops excluding people on trumped up charges, they may get more donations.

I regularly donated to Wikipedia but will never do so again because of trumped up charges related to a Trolley bus page. Trolley enthusiasts were putting false information on the page because they were trying to influence the proposed Trolley bus scheme in Leeds, UK, and refusing to accept any postings which did not support them. But more than that, they were excluding us from posting not just on that page but on Wikipedia at all.

(The trolley enthusiasts lost as the UK Government decided not to support the antiquated, 19C scheme which would have made road congestion in Leeds worse and not better and would not have been used (60% of the passengers were going to have to stand and it was simply an eyewateringly expensive electric bus which had no real benefits over a much cheaper electric bus not on wires).

After spending quite some time trying to defend myself and overturn the ban, I realised from reading blogs etc. that excluding people from Wikipedia seems to be a common tactic to keep dissenting postings off Wikipedia.

I then realised that I really don't care whether I can post on Wikipedia nor not - I have only ever posted when I have specialist knowledge which I have thought others might benefit from.

The experience also made me see Wikipedia in an entirely new light and allowed me to realise that, whilst I am sure that many moderators on Wikipedia do this voluntary work out of a wish to help others, there may be many more who enjoy the power it gives them 1) over others 2) to put over their point of view and that of others who hold views similar to their own. This is really sad as at one time I do really think that Wikipedia did allow the compilation of the best encyclopedia the world had ever known.

This posting is made in response to continued requests from Wikipedia to donate which happen every time I look at a page on Wikipedia (which has not ben that often since I realised that the information on any given page may well be incorrect or biased as a result of preventing people who may be more knowledgeable than the people who have already posted from posting.

Janet — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.19.240.231 (talk) 22:11, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Janet hello I can understand if you feel antagonized by the edits of some user(s) on Wikipedia. The appropriate route to resolve this is by discussion and consensus building. I don't want to splatter you with reading material here to give you insights you on how Wikipedia works, but do give a quick look to our editing policy which may allow you to imagine that very many articles and very many editors on Wikipedia go through this process of discussion, debate, dispute...leading to consensus (or not). But that's the way a community evolves and interacts in such a massive multi-editor online project. While I'll encourage you to not get discouraged by such interactions and to not connect the same to contributing to Wikipedia, I would add that in the same way that the volunteers donate their time to Wikipedia purely by choice and interest, so should you when it comes to donations. Write back if you need any assistance. Thanks. Lourdes  04:52, 11 December 2016 (UTC)