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= February 14 =

List of United States Supreme Court Justices by age
Do we have an article along the lines of List of United States Supreme Court Justices by age? I can't seem to find anything. Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 00:58, 14 February 2016 (UTC)


 * It doesn't look like it. But you can go to List of Justices of the Supreme Court of the United States and use the arrows at the top to list them by birth year. Dismas |(talk) 18:04, 14 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks. That won't indicate their age at the time they became a Supreme Court Justice, however.  That just tells me when they were born.  Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 22:27, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Please note your original question, which asked for age. It did not ask for age at time of appointment.-- S Philbrick (Talk)  02:49, 15 February 2016 (UTC)


 * I thought it was implied (i.e., at what age did they join the Supreme Court). What other age would be relevant?  Their age at death?  That hardly seems relevant.  If an article were entitled List of United States Supreme Court Justices by age, I think most readers would expect it to list the age at which an individual became a Justice.  I doubt people (readers) would expect it to list Justices at the age of their death.  The latter (age at death} has no bearing whatsoever on their function as a Supreme Court judge.  The former (age at appointment) has everything to do with their role on the SCOTUS.  Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 03:29, 15 February 2016 (UTC)


 * I answered the question you asked. It wasn't obvious to me that you had some implied question. If you had said something like "I think it would be helpful to tell readers at what age they became justices", that would have helped. Dismas |(talk) 04:06, 15 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Great. Thanks.  Again, it was implied.  And I assumed it to be obvious.  No one cares at what age they died.  They pretty much all died at the same age (late 70's, 80's, etc.).  It's when they become a SCOTUS member that is important and relevant.  Perhaps that is only obvious to me.  And others feel that their age at death is somehow germane to their SCOTUS status.  Again, thanks.  Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 05:07, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

HOW TO UPLOAD OUR WIKIPEDIA ON GOOGLE??
Dear sir/Mam,

Kindly tell me how i can upload my wikipedia on google???

Thanks & Regards

Shoaib Siddiqui — Preceding unsigned comment added by Msgraphics007 (talk • contribs) 05:23, 14 February 2016 (UTC)


 * I cannot guess what you mean by "my wikipedia". You have uploaded several images to English Wikipedia, but none of them is in use anywhere (and one appears to be of a magazine cover; if it is, it is in breach of copyright). And Google is a search engine – no-one can upload things to it. Maybe you want Google to list something you have created: that's not really a problem for this Wikipedia Help Desk, and anyway we wouldn't be able to help without knowing what it is that you want it to list. Maproom (talk) 09:16, 14 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Hello, . From your question, and your username, I am guessing that when you say "our wikipedia" you mean an article in Wikipedia about you or your company, and you are interested in having such an article to improve your presence on the web. If that is the case, then I'm afraid that, like many people, you have a fundamental misunderstanding about Wikipedia. I am not sure if you are referring to an existing article, or about one that you hope to create, but in either case:
 * Wikipedia may have an article about your company if there is substantial material about the company written by people who have no connection with the company, and published in reliable places;
 * Any such article should be almost completely based on what these independent sources have published about it. What the company says or wants to say about itself is almost irrelevant to Wikipedia, the article will in no sense belong to the company, and anybody connected with the company is strongly discouraged from editing the article.
 * Wikipedia may not be used for promotional purposes, and so we have little interest in how google treats an article.
 * I also observe that one of the images you have uploaded to Commons, File:Shoaib Siddiqui Meerut.jpg includes a resume, which is quite inappropriate to the project. Please read commons:Commons:Project Scope, particularly the part that says "Every file ... Must be realistically useful for an educational purpose", and WP:NOT, especially "Wikipedia is not a blog, Web hosting service, social networking service..." -ColinFine (talk) 11:06, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

Overlined text does not display properly in table of contents
The Prosigns for Morse code article includes several sections with overlined text $\overline{like this}$. This overlining is significant to the content of the article and cannot be substituted by any alternate highlighting forms such as underlining or italics, angle brackets, etc. The overlining displays correctly in the article itself, but does not display in the automatically generated table of contents. Is there a fix or workaround for this? Thanks. 50.174.97.118 (talk) 10:41, 14 February 2016 (UTC)


 * See /Archives/2016 February 5. --David Biddulph (talk) 10:56, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

Map has wrong location
In Pleasant Valley Grange Hall, there is a map of New York State, but the location specified is far off. I have no idea how to fix this myself. MB (talk) 17:47, 14 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Request assistance at Talk:Pleasant Valley Grange Hall. Since that talk page is probably not well watched, someone at this Help Desk may look at your talk page request for assistance.  Robert McClenon (talk) 17:58, 14 February 2016 (UTC)


 * The article is listed as being part of two wikiprojects so you could try asking at the Wikipedia talk:WikiProject National Register of Historic Places and/or Wikipedia talk:WikiProject New York. You could also ask at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Maps. Hopefully one of these will find someone who can help. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 18:04, 14 February 2016 (UTC)


 * It looks like the problem stems from the fact that the article in its original creation listed the town as being in Oneida County, New York. That was changed to Dutchess County, New York over four and a half years later. I am finding some obscure references to a PV in Onieda Co but there are far more for Dutchess Co. That grange has a Facebook page. I haven't yet found how the red dot is positioned on the map. But I am wondering if it has something to do with the coordinates linked at the upper right corner and in the infobox. They go to this page and clicking on a couple of the links there (like Bings and Google Maps) connects to maps for Oneida Co. That leads to the question - Is there more than one Peasant Valley Grange Hall?- The Granges in New York website has listings for both counties. One way to untangle this is to revert the article back to Oneida Co and start a new one for the Dutchess Co grange but other editors may have a different/better solution. please feel free to copy/paste my research to any other place that you ask about this. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 18:36, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I should mention that I tried the first reference for the article but it goes to a generic page and my head was already swimming from all my other research so I didn't go any farther. I could not access the second reference so if anyone else can that might help explain what is going on. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 18:43, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Your wondering is correct. The infobox coordinates position the red dot on the map. There is a separate parameter to choose the map, itself, and these are out of agreement. I might change the map back to Oneida Co. for now, because I don't know the proper coordinates for the one in Dutchess Co. —PC-XT+ 19:05, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I wonder if a histunmerge to split the article might be appropriate. Otherwise, if this is to be for Dutchess Co., the coordinates just need updating. The map could be disabled until then. —PC-XT+ 19:14, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

The article is about the Pleasant Valley Grange Hall that is on the National Register of Historic Places - that's the reason it is notable. I've looked into this more and believe that it is located in Oneida County and the map is CORRECT. It is the link to Pleasant Valley that is wrong. The Pleasant Valley in Dutchess County may have a Grange Hall also, but that is not the subject of this article. The info in the NRHP list the location on US Rt 20 which passes through Oneida County but NOT through Dutchess County. It's confusing because Pleasant Valley seems to be a disused name in Oneida County from the early 19th century. I'm going to fix the article by changing the location back to Oneida County. This will also match National Register of Historic Places listings in Oneida County, New YorkMB (talk) 19:49, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Excellent! That clears things up! —PC-XT+ 20:00, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks and  for the followup research. I went ahead and performed the edit needed. My apologies M for jumping ahead of you - I just thought that, based on everyones efforts, we should fix the article ASAP. I hope that everyone has a pleasant week. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 20:05, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
 * and I am going to take the liberty of copy/pasting this to the talk page for the article. That way, if this comes up again in the future, are research will be available for other editors to read. Another plus is that, since this thread will eventually get archived here, editors wont have to go searching for it. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 20:13, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the help.  In addition to the wrong county, the article contained links to the Pleasant Valley in Dutchess county that were wrong since the article was created in 2010.  I have fixed those also.  MB (talk) 20:18, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Excellent . Thanks for the note. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 20:22, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

DJ Oamen
Why did someone delete the user talk page User talk:DJ Oamen?!?! What can I do about it???? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.4.70.0 (talk) 19:19, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
 * You need to register that name, first, by creating an account. —PC-XT+ 19:27, 14 February 2016 (UTC)


 * User talk:DJ Oamen was deleted by because it was a "Userpage or subpage of a nonexistent user". User pages and user talk pages are associated with registered users, and there is no such user on English Wikipedia as DJ Oamen. You are welcome to create an account, and if you do, you can create a user page (as long as it follows the guidelines in User pages). User talk pages are intended for other people to have discussions with the user. --ColinFine (talk) 19:31, 14 February 2016 (UTC)


 * If you do create that account, you may be able to ask for that page to be restored. —PC-XT+ 19:55, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

Deleted/removed article - Betty X
Musician Betty X has had a Wikipedia entry for more than 10 years. Her page is now no longer coming up. It's confusing to booking agents when Betty X (musician) entry goes straight to Betty Shabazz who never used the moniker Betty X. (No disrespect to Betty.) Can Betty X (musician) page be re-established? Is there a reason that the page was removed after having been up and in use for 10+ years? Any explanation and help in getting this resolved would be greatly appreciated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Terivangogo (talk • contribs) 19:21, 14 February 2016 (UTC)


 * The community determined in December that the subject, Betty X the musician, did not meet the inclusion criteria for an article in the encyclopedia. The community also determined that a redirect to Betty Shabazz was appropriate as Betty Shabazz was also known as Betty X. --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 19:40, 14 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Hello, . The discussion which led to the deletion is at WP:Articles for deletion/Betty X. Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, not a directory or a marketing tool, and attempts to use it for promotional purposes tend to be hotly resisted. The discussion I linked to indicates that various people have tried to find independent reliable published information on Betty X, and have not been able to do so. Since Wikipedia articles are required to be almost entirely based on what people unconnected with the subject have written about the subject, it is impossible to write an acceptable article on her at present (the jargon for this is that she is not 'notable', but this is not a criticism of her importance or popularity, merely means that those sources don't exist). The fact that a substandard article about her has existed for ten years is not relevant: standards were lower in the past than they are now. --ColinFine (talk) 19:40, 14 February 2016 (UTC)


 * per Malcolm and Colin, I see no changes in the status of sourcing or notability, and no reason to reconsider the deletion. - Co rb ie V    ☊ ☼ 21:53, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

Albert Kitson, 2nd Baron Airedale
Refs. 3 and 10 are hopeless and I am too scared to change them. Please help and leave in the attached quotes. ThanksSrbernadette (talk) 23:43, 14 February 2016 (UTC)


 * OK, I'll have a look. :) --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 23:53, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Colin got there before me. :) --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 00:04, 15 February 2016 (UTC)


 * OK, I've fixed them, (sorry, !). I've changed the first one from cite web to cite journal, because that's what it is, and adjusted the parameters accordingly. The problem was (as the red error message told you quite clearly) you hadn't given a title, which is required. The reported problem in the second one was that you had misspelt "February"; but you had also, again, put all sorts of crap in the publisher field. --ColinFine (talk) 00:07, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

should ref 10 be closer to the date 1944 in the section titled "Marriage and wife's family background". also, please put in the correct punctuation space between the words "Lupton" and "Hugh" as seen in the same section; it currently looks incorrect, like this: Francis Martineau Lupton,Hugh......

I would stuff this up. Thanks so much for your help. Srbernadette (talk) 00:34, 15 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Yet again this editor (or the IPs he uses) has started a new section (with the same title) for an existing subject, despite having been told countless times not to do it, so I have merged. --David Biddulph (talk) 00:39, 15 February 2016 (UTC)


 * The way to insert a space is to position the cursor at the point where the space is required, then hit the spacebar which is the long blank key at the bottom of the keyboard. To delete a space there are at least two options. You can position the cursor after the space and hit the backspace key, or position the cursor before the space and hit the delete key. --David Biddulph (talk) 00:46, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

Thanks David Biddulph for your guidance. I have tried with some success I believe to fix up the page. If you wish to check, I would be very grateful. I know that an accent should be over the word "pathe" but I cannot remember how to do it and you will get angry if I seek guidance, only to stuff it up. I will have to leave the word un accented. Thanks again for your patience. Srbernadette (talk) 01:24, 15 February 2016 (UTC)


 * See your user talk page in the section #née (and e acute) from last October. --David Biddulph (talk) 01:30, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

Hi David and others I tried to do theis with the Alt G button and the e but it did not work. Please help me get eth accent on the word "Pathe" on the above page - as it should be. Srbernadette (talk) 02:29, 15 February 2016 (UTC)