Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2016 February 2

= February 2 =

The Much Honoured
Ref number 3 is wrong - please fix Srbernadette (talk) 00:16, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Be bold and fix it..  If you need help, please explain what you think is wrong.  RudolfRed (talk) 03:23, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
 * . It really only needed a quite minor fix.  If you review the change I made, you should hopefully be able to see what I did, and what the correct format is.  If you need help understanding it, please ask.  In terms of the old proverb, we would love to teach you to fish, so that you are able to feed yourself, instead of relying on us handing you individual fish to eat.  I, for one, don't mind fixing up your refs for you, as it seems quite clear that you are editing in good faith.  I'd equally be glad to help you understand how to do it, as would many others.   Murph 9000  (talk) 03:43, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

Help:Cite errors/Cite error included ref
article is "Harry Chapin" I am trying to add citation needed and adding quote from article...here is my source...DEEB,GARY. "'WOLD' Tells Disk Jockey's Station in Life." Chicago Tribune (1963-Current file): 1. Feb 22 1974. ProQuest Historical Newspapers: Chicago Tribune. Web. 31 Jan. 2016

struggling on how to do this — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tjs85710 (talk • contribs)
 * it looks like you figured it out. There are more improvements that could be made, but I'm not entirely certain how to do them since I'm not familiar with this type of cite. Maybe someone else can help. As it stands, your edit is now acceptable.— Vchimpanzee  •  talk  •  contributions  •  22:18, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

WRONG message displayed
List of unaccredited institutions of higher education

In this list, American College of Commerce and Technology has been identified as unaccredited. However, this college had been accredited in April 2015. The wrong message had brought bad influence to the college. Please delete American College of Commerce and Technology from the list. The following is the prove of its accreditation. file:///C:/Users/ESS%20Public%20PC/Downloads/April%20%202015%20Council%20Actions%20(1).pdf (on page 2)

Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by AriaEss (talk • contribs)
 * You do realize that file is on your hard drive, which we cannot access, right?
 * Also, I take it from the fact that it's on your hard drive that you're an employee of the school? Please see WP:COI and WP:NOSHARE. Ian.thomson (talk) 01:35, 2 February 2016 (UTC)


 * It's not quite clear what standard of "accreditation" is required here. This college is accredited by a private organization called ACICS - to verify, search for "American College of Commerce and Technology" at http://personify.acics.org/Default.aspx?TabId=204. However, that accreditation does not seem to be recognized by the US Department of Education, since it is not included on their most recent  spreadsheet of accredited institutions at http://ope.ed.gov/accreditation/GetDownLoadFile.aspx.  There is lengthy discussion of this on the article's Talk page, which I don't feel like delving into, but the overall approach seems to be that government recognition is the preferred hurdle. --Gronk Oz (talk) 15:21, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

Unattributed book directly copied from article
There's been an interesting case where someone directly copy and pasted from articles to create a book that's sold on Amazon, etc. without attribution to Wikipedia. More at: Talk:Monsanto I know the way Creative Commons works for Wikipedia is that anything from it is fair game for commercial products, but I don't recall seeing a further guidance written on this as far as attribution needed, etc. Could someone point me to relevant guidance on what commercial reproductions are allowed or if there's some place to report/discuss things like this? I haven't quite run into something like this before. Kingofaces43 (talk) 04:04, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
 * There are many "books" like that. See Books LLC. The best guidance I could find was WP:IAF. The Quixotic Potato (talk) 04:13, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Please see Reusing Wikipedia content and various pages linked from it. CC BY-SA does permit commercial use with attribution.  As far as I am aware, it is pretty much a known thing that people infringe on the copyrights of the Wikimedia Foundation and its contributors in this way.  If you are confident that it is unlicensed use (which means any use which does not comply with the license terms), you may have grounds for a consumer rights type of complaint to the retailer (Amazon, etc), but I can't be certain of that without carefully reviewing the physical book itself (no thanks, I don't actually want to do that).  Giving legal advice is prohibited, so I can't really say more than that or post the extended comments that I'd quite like to post.   Murph 9000  (talk) 04:25, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks Potato and Murph. I'm not super worried about it. I halfway guessed that these things are just left alone by Wikipedia, but just wanted to be sure. I have seen quite a few books that are direct copy and pastes, but they do attribute and include long lists of editor names at least. Thanks. Kingofaces43 (talk) 04:39, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

Random article landed on non-article
I clicked 'Random article' and landed here. Is this supposed to happen? If not, what needs to change? Thanks, Brycehughes (talk) 06:34, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
 * It technically is an article, though the contents consist of a template that provides a soft redirect to Wiktionary. That's not the only such soft redirect we have.  A lot of words are given pages like that, to indirectly discourage anyone from developing articles that really belong on Wiktionary.  It would be useful, though, if the random article page excluded pages that had a given tag in them.  Then it'd be a matter of inserting that tag into the template used on soft-redirects.  Ian.thomson (talk) 07:39, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Ah, I see. Sounds like a VPT thing then. Brycehughes (talk) 07:44, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

Jay Cutler
In your article about Jay Cutler, you have written a warning that says, "This section of a biography of a living person does not include any references or sources. Please help by adding reliable sources. Contentious material about living people that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately. (October 2009)"

I must inform you, that there is no reason to remove the section, because the fact there, is well known about Jay Cutler, and he even says the same thing, in his YouTube videos. It is a shame that people haven't stated any source(s) from where they got the information from, but that can easily be fixed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 51.175.198.169 (talk) 15:18, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I removed the unsourced section tag because the section in question does, in fact, cite a source. I added a ref improve tag to the top of the article, as it really is not well referenced overall.  ~  ONUnicorn (Talk&#124;Contribs) problem solving 15:41, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

Linked in
How do you remove your name/account with LinkedIn? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.193.5.22 (talk) 15:47, 2 February 2016 (UTC)


 * I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. -- ColinFine (talk) 16:19, 2 February 2016 (UTC)


 * https://help.linkedin.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/63/~/closing-your-account The Quixotic Potato (talk) 00:51, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

New article
The following transferred from the talk page. Eagleash (talk) 16:06, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

"If I want write a story what wi be the procedure Ushardul (talk) 15:59, 2 February 2016 (UTC)"


 * OP notified of t/f at their talk page and also suggested that WP:WIZARD might be a place to start. Eagleash (talk) 16:13, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I wonder if the IP really means "story", i.e. a work of fiction, rather than an encyclopedia article? If so, they need to be advised that this is not the right place. - Arjayay (talk) 16:25, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Have done so on their talk page - Arjayay (talk) 16:42, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

Creating Company Profile
Hi -

I received an Email from an online ad agency offering to create Wikipedia pages for companies. Does Wikipedia publish company profiles submitted to it? If so, what link on your site is the way to access this opportunity?

Thank you 98.149.250.14 (talk) 16:55, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Greetings. Generally, we only "publish profiles" (that is, make articles) on companies that meet WP:N or more specifically WP:NCORP. Also, the "profile" (article, in our language) needs to satisfy the policies WP:V, WP:NPOV and a bunch more - WP:NOTADVERTISING especially. Also, if someone is offering you to write an article against money, you ought to be careful about scamming; c.f Long-term abuse/Orangemoody.Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 16:59, 2 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Please, let's not give the "profile" word any credibility. They are articles.--ukexpat (talk) 02:10, 3 February 2016 (UTC)


 * The online ad agency sounds like a scam, I'm afraid. If you were to pay someone to write an article about your company, they'd very likely run up against Wikipedia's conflict of interest rules – it's not forbidden for someone to be paid to edit Wikipedia, but it is strongly discouraged, and there are potentially legal consequences for breaching those rules. If you want an article about your company, your best bet is to establish whether it meets the notability rules that Jo-Jo Eumerus linked to above, and if it does, make a request at Requested articles. —me_and 19:08, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

Help:Cite errors/Cite error references duplicate key
why was Martin Luther King Jr killed?

Why did James Earl Ray killed.209.129.224.234 (talk) 17:56, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
 * This doesn't appear to be stated as a question about citation errors. Please restate this as a question about citation errors.  (The question, as stated, is a request for opinion that isn't a proper use of Wikipedia pages.  However, this may be a good-faith poorly stated question about citation errors.)  Robert McClenon (talk) 18:20, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

Help:Cite errors/Cite error included ref
I thought I was making the change indicated by the error message. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jdlankin (talk • contribs) 18:53, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I don't see a question or an error message. If you are having a citation error at a particular article, it would help to say what article.  We can't figure it out from your edit histories.  Robert McClenon (talk) 18:59, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

AfD closed as redirect caused confusing/incorrect redirect, what to do?
Articles for deletion/Retroscripting was closed as "redirect to Home Movies (TV series)". This has caused confusing/incorrect redirects as both retroscript and retroscripting now redirect to that specific TV show. For example, Poochie (The Simpsons) contains a mention that the episode where Homer gives Poochie's farewell speech was retroscripted to reveal that Poochie was an outerspace alien and was killed when trying to return home. The reader expects the link "retroscripted" to go to an article about retroactively changing scripts in general, but is instead taken to an article about an entirely unrelated TV series. What should be done about this? Should the original article retroscripting be restored? J I P &#124; Talk 19:14, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
 * If the redirect has caused unexpected undesirable effects, then it would appear that the closer acted in good faith but may have made a mistake that they were not aware of. I suggest deletion review.  Robert McClenon (talk) 19:22, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Or, you could just change/remove the redirect- only 4 pages link to retroscript. 1 of them is this page, one is a userpage, and the other 2 seem to have the issue mentioned above. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joseph2302 (talk • contribs)
 * I have already initiated a Deletion review discussion and informed the closing admin about this. J I P  &#124; Talk 19:30, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

Miss Cayman Islands 2016 Monyque Brooks
hello,

just some facts for her page, she is 5'9" and her eyes are dark brown. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.157.148.10 (talk) 19:46, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Do you have a reliable source as to her height and eye color, which you state are different than the article states? If so, discuss at Talk:Monyque Brooks.  Robert McClenon (talk) 22:30, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

Require to modify an EXPIRED passage
In the list below, American College of Commerce and Technology is identified as an unaccredited school. However, the school had been accredited in April, 2015. The expired list had brought bad influence to the school So could you please delete American College of Commerce and Technology from the list?

Here is the link of the list. List of unaccredited institutions of higher education Here is the prove that the school had been accredited. http://www.acics.org/councilactions.aspx (See April, 2015 on page 2)

Thank you!

American College of Commerce and TechnologyAriaEss (talk) 20:02, 2 February 2016 (UTC)02/02/2016
 * You already asked about this. See the replies to your previous message above.  There is apparently already discussion on this topic at the article's talk page, so you should continue the discussion there. RudolfRed (talk) 20:30, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

Where did my sandbox content go?
Please help me with viewing content I have inserted in my sandbox. Only part of it is there and I was very deliberate in saving my page after each addition and edit. R.K. Elliott (talk) 22:10, 2 February 2016 (UTC)R.K. Elliott — Preceding unsigned comment added by R.K. Elliott (talk • contribs) 21:31, 2 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Nothing has ever been deleted from your sandbox, as shown by its edit history. Maproom (talk) 22:09, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

Mike Nichols: American Masters
− I created the page Mike Nichols: American Masters, but I made a mistake and the actual title of this film is "Mike Nichols: An American Master" I was hoping someone could help with redirecting this article to its proper title.--Deoliveirafan (talk) 21:34, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
 * All three of the references you cite in the article, and both the external links, use the name "American Masters'". Wikipedia names its articles according to what their subject is usually called, rather than their "official name". See, for example, United Kingdom or Tony Blair. So the article title should be left as it is. Maproom (talk) 22:15, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
 * A redirect, however, is appropriate from the alternative title. I have created it. —teb728 t c 23:37, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I guess its a bit confusing. In the beginning credits of the actual film the title is "Mike Nichols: An American Master". It can be found from the American Masters link in the External Links section. Whatever you guys think is appropriate but it seems a bit iffy either way.--Deoliveirafan (talk) 23:44, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

My Standard Online IQ Test.
I took the test, it showed my score and when done, I pressed share to my facebook page. My friends who have taken this test have their score in the form of a certificate posted do their page. Why has mine not shown up.............I took it, paid for it days ago. I wanted it to show up to encourage other friends to take it as well. Please let me know what is wrong if you would. Here is the information.  Thank you kindly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vickie A White (talk • contribs) 23:53, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. Rwessel (talk) 23:56, 2 February 2016 (UTC)