Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2016 January 17

= January 17 =

Twinkle
Every time I edit a page with Twinkle, is added to my watchlist. How I can disable it? Laberinto16 (talk) 00:01, 17 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Preferences -> Gadgets -> Preferences panel (at the end of the Twinkle gadget line) -> And then it depends. There are a lot of different watchlist options but I am assuming you mean when you revert people. Those are under the Revert and rollback section. Look for "Add pages to watchlist for these types of reversions:" --Majora (talk) 00:07, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

Help:Cite errors/Cite error included ref
I'm trying to link this web site to this article but can't seem to get it right. http://stanforddailyarchive.com/cgi-bin/stanford?a=d&d=stanford19611002-01.2.3#} — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bruinguy (talk • contribs) 00:26, 17 January 2016 (UTC)


 * The error message says: "Cite error: A (see the help page).", and the words "help page" are in blue to indicate that they are a wikilink, in this case to Help:Cite errors/Cite error included ref. --David Biddulph (talk) 02:20, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

Help:Cite errors/Cite error ref no input
Hello, my father, Beat artist William J Bowman, who had his first art exhibition at Madam Gechtoff's Art Gallery during the 1950's claims she was referred to as "Madam Gechtoff." Sonia Gechtoff and her husband also had a small daughter at the time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Linnea Bowman Hart (talk • contribs) 02:16, 17 January 2016 (UTC)


 * The error messages each say "Cite error: There are tags on this page without content in them (see the help page).", with the words "help page" being in blue to indicate that they are a wikilink, in this case to Help:Cite errors/Cite error ref no input. --David Biddulph (talk) 02:25, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

Moving page on sustainable consumption teaching from userspace to Wikipedia
Dear all,

I would like to receive some help and advice regarding a recent overview table that I had been preparing on sustainable consumption teaching activities.

This is the article which is currently in my personal userspace:

User:Orschiro/SCORAI/Sustainable Consumption Teaching

I think the table would best fit in reference to the page Sustainable consumption.

What is your advice on moving my table to the Wikipedia?

Thankfully,

~Robert — Preceding unsigned comment added by Orschiro (talk • contribs) 06:46, 17 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Robert, as a first step, you may wish to start a discussion at Talk:Sustainable consumption, the specific talk page for the article. That is more likely to reach the attention of people who have an interest in that article (and would be the most likely people to raise any objections or issues with your content).  The immediate issue that I see, is that your table does not cite any reliable sources.  It is also quite large.  I suggest starting with the article's talk page, possibly posting a link to your discussion at the related Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Environment/Sustainability task force, and see what response you get there.  Hopefully that will help you find interested editors to produce a useful collaborative effort.  --Murph9000 (talk) 07:53, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your assistance, Murph!

The next steps to proceed are clear to me now.

Orschiro (talk) 08:21, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

I would like to write on Wikipedia about a person I know
Laurence Sacco 1959 to present.

Laurence was born in Windsor,Berkshire, United Kingdom in September 1959 to an Italian father and a British army captain and Lilian Sacco an English mother. He had two brothers and one sister. His mother was a very ill lady from tne age of 18 years and this was to have a huge impact on the families life. His motnef died when Laurence was only 9 years of age leaving tne family devastated. Due to immense pressures with his fathers work and having to bring up a family of tbe youngest age of 5 years his father decided to split the family up to give them a chance in life. Laurences' two younger brothers remained witn the father whilst his sister went to live with an aunt whilst Laurence was cared for by his grandparents in Oxford. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.24.33.10 (talk) 07:26, 17 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Please read WP:BIO for a full explanation of what it takes for a person to qualify as having notability, one the prerequisites for an article to exist on Wikipedia. The notability must be able to be properly supported via reliable sources.  You might want to consider the WP:AFC process, for a collaborative and reviewed mechanism for creating articles.  --Murph9000 (talk) 07:37, 17 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia is particularly strict about biographies of living persons, and Google doesn't find any reliable sources for any Laurence Sacco, so, unfortunately, unless he has been written about elsewhere, I don't think you will be able to create an article about him. Sorry to disappoint you.    D b f i r s   08:40, 17 January 2016 (UTC)


 * As mentioned above, to have an entry in Wikipedia, an individual needs to be notable. I can see no evidence that Laurence is notable - in the information you provided above, there is no indication of what he has done/does which makes him notable. Being born isn't enough, I'm afraid!  Phantom Steve / talk &#124; contribs \ 09:17, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

Help with footnote 17 on Gilles (stock character) page.
I am requesting that the "error" tag in footnote 17 of the Gilles (stock character) page be removed. The content of the note applies to each of the three citations. In the first citation, the note explains that the "anonymity" of the Th&eacute;&acirc;tre des boulevards collection is qualified by the fact that Fagan published one of its plays as one of his own, thus revealing the play's authorship. In the second citation, the note identifies the play in question (Fagan's Isabelle), allowing the reader to find and read it. In the third citation, the note gives evidence of the fact that Fagan (author of Isabelle) was drawn to the parade genre.

I am also puzzled by the note in red inserted into the "Duchartre" entry in the "References" section of the page. What needs fixing? and how to fix? Beebuk 07:51, 17 January 2016 (UTC)


 * The error tag is due to the fact that the ref tags have the same name="r&r" which indicates that all three footnotes should have the same text. But the third tag has different footnote text from the other two; so the wiki software is warning you that it doesn’t understand which text it should put in the footnote. If you really want it to have different footnote text for the third, you should remove the name parameter. (Ideally only one ref would have text and the others would have only .)
 * The Duchartre error is due to the paramter “year=1929; Dover reprint 1966” It is telling you that “1929; Dover reprint 1966” is not a valid year. —teb728 t c 09:10, 17 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Perhaps a way to achieve the intent of the Duchartre reference would be to code  (though that thwarts the intent of the template designer).

My userpage
I have designed my user page after other editors Bearian, Scientzille, MelbourneStar. Below my user page, there is a large white box. I tried to shrink it like the date template above. Can anybody shrink the box? --Marvel Hero (talk) 08:33, 17 January 2016 (UTC)
 * The empty space was due to about 50 blank lines. I removed all but one of them. Is that what you wanted? —teb728 t c 08:47, 17 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks, you have done fine. Can you shrink it more, to make it look like the green and the blue template? And is it possible to keep some space between the blue template which states "User page for Marvel Hero" and the white template?--Marvel Hero (talk) 08:51, 17 January 2016 (UTC)
 * You've got two  tags embedded inside the bottom decoration.  If you remove them, it will remove the blank space.  If you want space between the two templates, you could put a blank line there.  Or, I suppose, a   tag. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 12:02, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

Nigel Poett
Is ref number 33 OK - it is NOT an original document. I am concerned - Please help. Thanks 101.182.146.167 (talk) 12:41, 17 January 2016 (UTC)


 * It's the same as Ref 1, unfortunately there's no original publication detail. You could try contacting the website to ask them to add the source details to the page. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 14:55, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

can i download w.p.
Can I download a version ofwikipedia — Preceding unsigned comment added by 197.157.0.61 (talk) 13:57, 17 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi person editing from 197.157.0.61 Yes, you can. See Database download.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 13:59, 17 January 2016 (UTC)
 * But please note that as the total file is over 60Gb you will need a fast, reliable, internet connection, and be prepared to wait a considerable time - Arjayay (talk) 16:42, 17 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Just in case you meant "can I download wiki software" rather than the contents of the encyclopedia itself (which, as mentioned above, is a significant size!), then yes you can.. go to MediaWiki and read about how to do it there.  Phantom Steve / talk &#124; contribs \ 09:14, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

Wikipedia means to me
Wikipedia is everything you need to know about anything at all. It is an infinite source of knowledge that will continue to educate us until we are satisfied for our hunger for knowledge. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.77.174.247 (talk) 15:52, 17 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Thank you. --ColinFine (talk) 19:56, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

New article - Michal Cander: polish artist -> better version
Dear Wiki Friends, I have added new article about polish artist Michał Cander. I asked 13.01 about your help. One of us (Maproom) has suggested that my article has not enough references. I worked on it. I have found a lot of references about artist. I would like to ask about more advices, what could I do more to make my draft to be an article. I am also afraid about English gramma. It would be great if somebody could help and check my article. I spent a lot of time to filled in informations about Mr. Cander. Thank you in advance for your help. P.S I am sorry that I create one more topic in helpdesk, but I am not sure that my answer from 13.01 is correct. Link to draft: Draft:Michał Cander — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zbik89 (talk • contribs) 16:54, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

Morrissey
On the Discography page for the musician Morrissey, the album -Bona Drag released 1990 is missing, how to add this to the page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.229.166.249 (talk) 16:54, 17 January 2016 (UTC)
 * The article in question is Morrissey. Do you have a reliable source identifying the album?  If so, you can either request the edit at Talk:Morrissey or can edit the page itself.  Robert McClenon (talk) 17:04, 17 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Note that Bona Drag is described as compilation album, re-releasing previous singles and old tracks. It seems like this kind of albums is not added in the main article's listing. It is only included in Morrissey discography in an additional section for compilations. You'd have to ask a topic expert, probably from WP:WikiProject Discographies, if you are interested in the reason for this handling. GermanJoe (talk) 17:15, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

Oakland Plantation
You have some misinformation on Oakland Plantation according to your State sign 43 34 historical plantations. What you say in this write up is not true. The original owner was William Sanders V, not Saunders.

Do your home work on Oakland Plantation and re-write it as the truth. I can help.

Edward J. Sanders — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.64.40.218 (talk) 19:01, 17 January 2016 (UTC)


 * If you have information to improve a Wikipedia article, (preferably with a published reference to support the information) you are welcome to edit the article; alternatively, every article has an associated "Talk" page, on which you can make suggestions for improving that article. By the way, you have just instructed hundreds or thousands of individual volunteers, most of whom have never heard of Oakland Plantation, to "do their home work". --ColinFine (talk) 20:03, 17 January 2016 (UTC)


 * You haven't even told us what article needs to be fixed. There are multiple places named Oakland Plantation.  Since this was your only edit, we can't tell from your contribution history which article you want fixed.  Go to the specific article talk page and make the edit request.  Also, read the civility policy.  We are all volunteers here, and being hostile doesn't increase the likelihood of getting anything corrected.
 * Given the IP's edits to Category talk:Plantations in South Carolina, and the area code 864 phone number that he provides, I assume that this is either Oakland Plantation House (Mount Pleasant, South Carolina), Oakland Plantation (Beech Island, South Carolina), or Oakland Plantation (Fort Motte, South Carolina) — but which one? All have been unedited for a good while (the only 2015 edits were technical fixes, and the last edit to the text of any of them was on 21 June 2014), and none contain the string   (except in a template at the bottom, which includes the word "Anderson"), so none appear to be problematic.  Nyttend (talk) 18:38, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

Change of our companies description on Wikipedia
Dear Wikipedia,

The information about our company, Royal Denship, is no longer right, so we wish to make a complete change of the information mentioned.

It says that Royal Denship "was a company" and it is under administration. This information is not right any more, as we bought the company right after the "administration" in 2003 and have owned the company since, without using it.

We have recently re-launched our company with a completely new structure, building yachts in Holland (and not in the mentioned yards in Denmark), so it is essential for us to have this information that we should be under administration removed or the text changed.

For the right tekst, we suggest to add the correct information added, as it is written on http://royaldenship.com/?page_id=3606

I hope you can help, as this wrong information written on wiki, is a problem for us.

Thanks in advance and kind regards

Kasper Fritz Bandholm, COO Royal Denship — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kasper Fritz Bandholm (talk • contribs) 19:07, 17 January 2016 (UTC)
 * User accounts are for individuals only who are "we" ?  Mlpearc  ( open channel ) 19:12, 17 January 2016 (UTC)
 * On the one hand, he is probably an individual, but is speaking on behalf of his company, in which case he is a good-faith editor who has a conflict of interest. On the other hand, I will also advise him to read the dispute resolution policy and discuss on the article talk page.  There has been no discussion at Talk:Royal Denship.  Text that is on your web site cannot be added without rewriting it due to copyright.  Robert McClenon (talk) 20:14, 17 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Kasper, if you can provide any links to articles in reputable newspapers and the like (i.e. good reliable sources) about the change of ownership and that the company is now in a good financial state, that may help considerably in getting an independent Wikipedia editor to address your concerns. While you can't just make or provide the changes yourself, if you can help people find the suitable independent sources, you may well help to expedite the process.  The article's talk page is the best place to provide such pointers to the necessary information.  Please take a moment properly examine the reliable sources guidelines, to avoid any disappointment or false expectations.  --Murph9000 (talk) 20:36, 17 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Hello, . Like many people, you have a misunderstanding of how Wikipedia works. Please understand that you do not own or control the article Royal Denship in any way. We do wish our articles to be accurate, according to the best published information; so if the article is out of date we want it to be updated. But it should be updated to a neutral summary of what independent reliable published sources say about the company: what you or or colleagues have said about it, or want to say about it, is of almost no interest to Wikipedia. Please read WP:PSCOI: you are welcome to suggest on the article's talk page how it should be updated, preferably with reference to independent published sources, so that uninovled editors can look at your suggestions and update the article as appropriate. --ColinFine (talk) 20:28, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

Recently Uploaded Content Repeatedly Deleted
I have been trying to add information to the page for the film 'Barbarian Queen', which is listed as being in need of citations and sections on "Production" and "Reception." I have documented all of my information with appropriate, linked citations, and my content is objective and factual in nature. Someone is going behind me and deleting all of the changes I make within an hour of being uploaded. Why??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.160.33.192 (talk) 20:00, 17 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Read the dispute resolution policy. It will tell you to discuss on the talk page, Talk: Barbarian Queen.  There has been no discussion on the talk page.  Your edits are being reverted as unsourced.  I would also advise you to register an account, because the article is likely to be semi-protected if the edits and reverting continue.  Robert McClenon (talk) 20:08, 17 January 2016 (UTC)
 * See also the article's history (click "View history" on the article page), which contains information about all article changes and their reasons as brief edit summary. GermanJoe (talk) 20:19, 17 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Maybe I can help. I'll leave a message on the article's talk page. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 10:34, 18 January 2016 (UTC)