Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2016 January 20

= January 20 =

Lupton family
please help. Refs. 68 and 69 on this page should be aligned together but there is a mathematics sign sign between them. also, can you please do an accent over the "e" on the word   Pathe -  "British Pathe" - Please remove this maths  sign as well so that it looks neater. Thanks 101.182.146.167 (talk) 04:03, 20 January 2016 (UTC)


 * To remove the extra ">" character, go into the article and remove it. For the accent over the e, see the string of previous answers, linked (for example) from Help desk/Archives/2015 September 18. --David Biddulph (talk) 04:18, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for your help it is hard for me thanks again and I will try to get it right — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.182.146.167 (talk) 05:05, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

please see earlier request above. I know i am not good at this - but could someone please help do the accent over the recent edit of the word Pathe and also set the 2 refs together without the maths sign in between. If we try to do these fix ups we wil stuff up the article. Sorry but please help if you can. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.182.146.167 (talk) 05:36, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

Please see earlier request above. I know I am not good at this - but could someone please help do the accent over the recent edit (references 68 and 69) of the word "Pathe" (on the "e")  and also set the 2 refs together without the maths sign in between them. If we try to do these fix ups we will stuff up the article. Sorry David, but can someone please help if you can. Thanks 101.182.146.167 (talk) 07:25, 20 January 2016 (UTC)


 * ✅ as David Biddulph implied, the additional > sign was very likely a typo by the person who added the refs; just needed to be edited out. If you want to add accents, click on the words 'special characters' in the toolbar at the top of the edit window and you will see a drop down giving all the accents, characters and symbols you could ever need! Position your cursor where you want the character to appear and then click on it in the drop down. Eagleash (talk) 07:41, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for your help. There is a subheading on the Lupton family page titled "Early and Middle Victorian".

We will leave it up to your discretion - but surely this heading should be replaced by the FAR more commonplace expression -  "Early and Mid-Victorian" - (ie not "Middle")

You are the experts, so please alter the sub-heading if you think it should be altered. Thanks 101.182.146.167 (talk) 08:06, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
 * ✅. -- Edgars2007  (talk/contribs) 09:56, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for your help. There is a subheading on the Lupton family page titled "Early and Middle Victorian".

We will leave it up to your discretion - but surely this heading should be replaced by the FAR more commonplace expression - "Early and Mid-Victorian" - (ie not "Middle")

You are the experts, so please alter the sub-heading if you think it should be altered. Thanks101.182.146.167 (talk) 09:57, 20 January 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.182.146.167 (talk) 09:57, 20 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Hello IP editor. Somehow you are posting your requests twice - please don't do that. And no, we are not the experts. If you think an article can be improved, go ahead and improve it. The worst that can happen is that somebody disagrees and undoes your change. If they do so, you can either leave it, or if you feel strongly, you can start a discussion with them either on their user talk page, or on the article's talk page. This is how Wikipedia works: please see WP:BOLD. --ColinFine (talk) 10:07, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

Sorry again- I removed a totally irrelevant ref. on the above page and replaced it with a new one - number 43 - but the date is wrong or SOMETHING is wrong as there are <> signs near it. Please can you fix up - I do not trust myself. I hope the new ref. is OK. 101.182.146.167 (talk) 11:01, 20 January 2016 (UTC) Thanks


 * ✅ You merely duplicated the closing ref tag . Also please spell months out in full I.e. January not Jan. and leave gaps. I.e. X Month year. Eagleash (talk) 11:17, 20 January 2016 (UTC)


 * We didn't need 6 sections all today on the same subject with the same section title. Apart from anything else, repeated sections with the same name confuse the contents list and the ability to get to a specific section.  I have moved all the questions into the same section. If you want to ask further questions on the same subject, please do it in the same section.  - David Biddulph (talk) 11:37, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

Help on uploading images/licenses
I forgot what license to look for under Flickr to find images to put on here. But I did find an image on Drake Bell in late 2011, and the image on his article is from 2007. So it may get updated by at least a couple of years, since he got a new hairstyle. Could it be used? And if so, could I perhaps get assistance in uploading it? Thank you in advance. -- Joseph Prasad (talk) 05:03, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
 * The licenses that can be used can be seen on Commons. That image is marked CC-BY-ND which cannot be used. --Majora (talk) 05:10, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

Kinnelon High School, Kinnelon Road, Kinnelon, NJ
Kinnelon High School (KHS) opened in the fall of 1963 for grades 7 through 12 as there was no middle-school at that time. I attended grades 7 through 12 graduating in the Fall of 1969. I was surprised to see that Wikipedia states that KHS is in Butler, NJ. Please note that Butler High School was our number 1 rival during the six years I attended KHS. Prior to the opening of KHS our high-school students did attend Butler High School. Butler is the municipality immediately to the North of Kinnelon in Morris County, NJ.

I'll stop back periodically to see if Wikipedia corrects this error.

Respectfully,

Barry McCloud (former resident of Kinnelon, NJ) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.87.5.224 (talk) 06:53, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm not entirely sure what you mean. Our article on Kinnelon High School says, both in the lead sentence and in the infobox, that the school is in Kinnelon, NJ. Not Butler. I even tried scrolling back through the revisions and I do not see where it ever said it was in Butler. So if you are seeing where it says Butler please be more specific so someone can assist you. --Majora (talk) 06:58, 20 January 2016 (UTC)


 * This is a Google Knowledge Graph problem, not a Wikipedia one - please take this up with Google, as there is nothing we can do. Our standard answer is:-
 * Symbol move vote.svg Are you by any chance referring to a photo or text shown to the right of a Google search? Google's Knowledge Graph uses a wide variety of sources. There may be a text paragraph ending with "Wikipedia" to indicate that particular text was copied from Wikipedia. An image and other text before or after the Wikipedia excerpt may be from sources completely unrelated to Wikipedia. We have no control over how Google presents our information, but Google's Knowledge Graph has a "Feedback" link where anyone can mark a field as wrong. - Arjayay (talk) 09:52, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

How to create a table with sorting feature?

 * ✅ Dear all,

I noticed that some tables on Wikipedia have a sorting feature in the first row of cells (i.e. the column captions).

Clicking on these arrows allows the user to sort the entries (e.g. ascending/descending by name).

How can I add this feature to one of my tables?

Thankfully,

Orschiro (talk) 09:42, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi! Yes, it is possible by changing  to   in wikicode. See more here. Or you can tell, which tables you want to make sortable. -- Edgars2007  (talk/contribs) 09:52, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

Dear Edgars2007,

Thank you for your help! I did not find this option in the graphical edit mode (not source). Can this option maybe be added to the graphical mode?

Thankfully,

Orschiro (talk) 10:11, 20 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Hello, . Mediawiki programmers (the people who work on the user interface) don't in general see this page (some of them might happen to, but there's no reason to expect them to). It's best to make that sort of suggestion at one of the sections of the Village Pump. --ColinFine (talk) 20:09, 20 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Dear, thank you so much for pointing me to the right place. I will raise my feature request there.

Orschiro (talk) 20:27, 20 January 2016 (UTC)


 * There's also more help here Help:Table  Mlpearc  ( open channel ) 20:33, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

Peter Kavanagh
Please check ref. number 3  on this page. I THINK the date needs to be fixed. Plus do you think there are enough verifiable refs? Cheers101.182.146.167 (talk) 10:26, 20 January 2016 (UTC)


 * ✅ You meant Peter Kavanagh (Australian politician); the link you posted was just to the disambiguation page. It was the easiest possible fix and you should at least attempt these yourself. The article has reasonable refs, but could probably benefit from some additional ones. Eagleash (talk) 10:38, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

For the should know better file
[rm as probably not the best place to file this] Blythwood (talk) 12:15, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

ECPMF article proposal
Dears, I'm thinking about creating a Wikipedia article concerning the European Centre for Press and Media Freedom (ECPMF). Before drafting the page, though, I would like to have your opinion on whether the subject already meets the notability criteria. Thank you, --Davide Denti (OBC) (talk) 15:29, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you Davide Denti for reading our policy and checking here. I would say that although the organisation is quite new, the "independent coverage" for the launch exists in sources such as these: OBC, European Commission Digital Agenda for Europe, Co-operative News, and City of Leipzig. Additionally, has ECPMF's October conference or other activities been reported in independent news sources? As you are experienced here I'm sure you will avoid the common mistakes of copying text verbatim from the group's own website, and appearing to advertise or promote the group Noyster (talk),  11:33, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks Noyster for your reply. Indeed I wanted to hear an opinion before starting the draft of the page. I will also ensure to avoid copyright breaches and self-promotional appearances. --Davide Denti (OBC) (talk) 12:09, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi Noyster, I've put a first draft of the page here; I look forward to your (and everyone else's) feedback before creating the page.--Davide Denti (OBC) (talk) 16:33, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

Succession box template not working
I have been trying to add a succession box template to Karen Weaver, but it is not displaying properly, and I would appreciate some help in fixing it. Thanks. Everymorning (talk) 18:36, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Per Template:Succession box, you require and  templates to start and end the box.   Murph 9000  (talk) 18:51, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
 * The first point was that you had forgotten the and  templates.  I've added those.  You may wish to look at Template:Succession box for further help. --David Biddulph (talk) 18:54, 20 January 2016 (UTC)