Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2016 January 5

= January 5 =

Shahaji II
Sir

I want to bring to a GROSS mistake in the Title of the page....

The page is about Rajarshi Chatrapati Shahu Maharaj ( Kolhapur ) but wrongly titled -

Shahaji II

Please correct the mistake — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vijayrawoot (talk • contribs)


 * The article variously refers to its subject as "Shahu I", "Shahu", "Shahu Maharaj", "King Shahu Maharaj", and "Shahaji II". I agree that consistency would be better, but I am not qualified to judge which name should be preferred. Maproom (talk) 17:39, 5 January 2016 (UTC)

disambiguations with redlinks
really? ist it consensus that disambiguations with redlinks in the english language wikipedia are Obviously unnecessary disambiguation page[s]? --Informationswiedergutmachung (talk) 17:21, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
 * The purpose of disambiguation pages is to direct readers to the right one of three or more (in some cases only two) existing Wikipedia articles. So redlinks don't belong there. Maproom (talk) 17:30, 5 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Strange, but thx: now i know the prejudices of the German Wikipedia about the low quality of the English language Wikipedia aren't prejudices but correct. FYI: Diambiguations with redlinks are strongly recommended in the German Wikipedia. --Informationswiedergutmachung (talk) 17:49, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
 * This is why we create disambiguations before and not after creating an article. --Informationswiedergutmachung (talk) 17:50, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Redlinks are allowed (not encouraged) on disambiguation pages. See WP:DABRL. Basically, the redlink needs to be in use in articles other than the disambiguation page and there must be a blue link included on the disambiguation page that describes the use. older ≠ wiser 18:38, 5 January 2016 (UTC)

Regarding article - Sridhar
Hello Sir/Madam,

I had created two pages today accidentally for Cinematographer sridhar.

These pages were deleted since I wrote the trademarks and personal quotes i posted on his IMDB profile
 * Sridhar
 * Sridhar Cinematographer

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm7819649/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cr4

I checked several wiki pages so that i comply with the rules, I created a subpage so that i wont mess up with the live articles.

Subpage link : User:Thekeenwatcher/Subpage Sridhar

Now that I have removed all the content I had already posted on IMDB related to his personal quotes and trademarks. Please help me create this page

Bottom line .. I want to follow the rules and policies following your guidelines .. Please help me ..

Sincerely, The Keen Watcher --Thekeenwatcher (talk) 18:33, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
 * the subpage looks like a good start. You should make sure every fact is found in a reliable source and that the source is shown in each case immediately after what is taken from the source, between rather than at the end, where you should have.


 * And one reason you were reverted is that you put your content in an existing article. Yours should probably be titled Sridhar (cinematographer). If he was really well known we would move the disambiguation page to Sridhar (disambiguation) but he is not likely to be the first person people search for with that name. Once accepted, the article would be moved to the correct title and listed on the disambiguation page.— Vchimpanzee  •  talk  •  contributions  •  23:06, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

Move (Redirect?) Page
The page Prairie Evaporite Formation (geology) should replace the page Prairie Evaporite Formation. The former contains a full description of the formation, while the latter is only one line in a table. I believe this move requires an admin. Could someone please help? Thanks, Georgialh (talk) 18:46, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I agree, and have marked the redirect Prairie Evaporite Formation for deletion to allow Prairie Evaporite Formation (geology) to move there. You're correct in thinking this needs an admin to complete the move. Joseph2302 (talk) 18:52, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
 * ✅ Ruslik_ Zero 19:03, 5 January 2016 (UTC)

Brigitte Fontaine discography
Could Books, Theatre and Cinema be included in a new article entitled Brigitte Fontaine discography? Please ping me when and if you respond. Also, should section 2014_in_heavy_metal_music exist, since [this reversion] occurred? --Jax 0677 (talk) 20:19, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
 * , a discography wouldn't include those. I'm not sure what you would call such a list.


 * As for the section, it is all sourced, apparently, and I would assume we want to keep a list of those who were still working on projects in 2014, though I don't really know.— Vchimpanzee  •  talk  •  contributions  •  23:16, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

Are there any statistics about how accurate Wikipedia is?
Where does one ask questions about Wikipedia? As opposed to "how to use Wikipedia"? Is this the correct page? Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 20:12, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
 * What do you mean by questions about Wikipedia, as opposed to how to edit Wikipedia?  If you have questions about its history, for instance, or about the WMF, there is almost certainly an article that will answer the question.  If you want a pointer to the right article, you would probably do well to ask at the Miscellaneous Reference Desk.  What is the question?  Robert McClenon (talk) 20:58, 5 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Are there any type of statistics/data, etc., about the grammar and spelling in Wikipedia? In other words, some gauge of the percentage of spelling errors, typos, incorrect grammar, stuff like that?  How accurate/inaccurate Wikipedia is, in those areas.  Thanks.  Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 23:27, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
 * You might try asking GiraffeData. He's gotten coverage by the mainstream media for his efforts at fixing "comprised of".  He might know about news articles that discuss grammar on Wikipedia.  JSTOR would be another place to check.  I did a few searches there, but I didn't find anything obvious.  The biggest problem is defining correct vs incorrect.  It may seem simple, but there's no central authority for English.  For example, split infinitives may be considered incorrect by some authorities and acceptable by others. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 02:57, 6 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Counting them would mean finding them. Editors find many such errors; I find perhaps a dozen a week. However, I immediately correct them and don't submit statistics, and this is surely true for most of us. Thus, there may be many errors of that kind, but the number that have been found but not yet corrected must always be very small, and my limited imagination does not imagine a way even to compute how many are found per minute. Jim.henderson (talk) 02:34, 6 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Yes, I understand it's not necessarily an easy task, nor a perfect analysis. But, Wikipedia has absolutely no gauge of its accuracy, proper grammar, etc.?  We have no "handle" on those items that are so vital to an encyclopedia?   Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 03:28, 6 January 2016 (UTC)


 * I assume you´ve checked Reliability of Wikipedia? It may have some hints. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:14, 6 January 2016 (UTC)


 * That's a good start. Thanks.  Sort of what I was looking for, yes.  Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 18:23, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, all. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 03:28, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

Citation in section heading
The article Tram has a citation in section 6.1's header, which looks like "Statistics[52]". This also shows up in the table of contents. Is there a better place to put that citation? 15.211.201.84 (talk) 21:47, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
 * ✔️ by . For future reference, references shouldn't be in headings, well spotted. Joseph2302 (talk) 22:36, 5 January 2016 (UTC)


 * There are possibly other solutions, but a common approach is a short "Source: X" remark at the end of the list (done). References should not be placed in section headers (see MOS:HEAD) - and I still need to type faster :). GermanJoe (talk) 22:37, 5 January 2016 (UTC)

Please update page: PA 8th congressional district race for 2016:
Please update:

Dr. Marc Duome, clinical neuropsychologist and business man from Bucks County entered the race January 1.

Thank you! (web: duomeforcongress.com) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.196.104.150 (talk • contribs)
 * Thank you for your interested in having this information updated in Wikipedia. Could you please take a moment and cite a reliable source that is from a third party source. In general we discourage the use of primary sources for inclusion because self-publish information often indicates the information lacks appropriate notably for inclusion. Tiggerjay (talk) 07:03, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

Infobox map
A suggestion at the GA review of Stephenson Grand Army of the Republic Memorial is to add a pin map in the infobox. I've tried several times (preview, no actual edits) and I can't seem to make it work. I copy and pasted the parameters from O Street Market's infobox map, but it either removes half of the current infobox or displays it on the left side of the page. Does someone know what I'm doing wrong? APK whisper in my ear  22:23, 5 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Without a saved version we can't readily tell you what you've done wrong. Do you want to try saving your failed attempt in your sandbox? --David Biddulph (talk) 22:26, 5 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Sure thing. Here it is. APK whisper in my ear  22:44, 5 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Taken care of by Trappist the monk. Thanks. APK whisper in my ear  23:03, 5 January 2016 (UTC)