Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2016 January 9

= January 9 =

Request for undeletion? Remake? Help!
Hello Wikipedia!

My name is Larry Rudolph and I represent a client named Brandon Cyrus.

It looks like someone made a page for him about a year ago and it was deleted?

I am wanting to find someone to set up a page on his behalf but I was wondering if the page would just get deleted right after because it seems as if someone made two pages for Brandon and Wikipedia deleted one for being previously deleted.

How would I go about this as I need a page to represent my client's name, his brand, works and such. It is very important as Wikipedia does show up under Google Knowledge Graphs.

Thanks,

Larry — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.175.205.110 (talk • contribs) 00:15, 9 January 2016‎ (UTC)


 * Deletion discussion in question is here.
 * First, you need to be aware of our conflict of interest guideline. It is very strongly discouraged to write or create an article when you are either that person or closely related to that person (such as working for them). Next, the topic of the article must meet our general notability guidelines or the one specifically for people before an article can be created. If you believe Cyrus meets those, then I suggest you gather up all the reliable sources you can find which are directly about him, and then post a request here.
 * Hope that helps! ··· 日本穣 ·  投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe ·  Join WP Japan ! 00:26, 9 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Please read WP:conflict of interest, WP:paid editing, Articles for deletion/Brandon Cyrus, User talk:Reigningbc (which was previously named User talk:BrandonCyrus), and the various links provided on those pages. What you think you need and what Wikipedia needs may well be different.  if you have concerns about what Google is displaying, please read You can't fix Google through Wikipedia.  --David Biddulph (talk) 00:35, 9 January 2016 (UTC)


 * When the article was deleted in 2014, there were no references to support notability. He had done bit parts in several TV episodes or movies. The only refs that experienced editors could find were not what wikipedians consider reliable sources. They were just Twitter, Facebook, his own website, and IMDB. Has he had significant coverage in reliable and independent sources since then? IMDB indicates he has had mostly bit parts: zombie, stripper, reporter, crook#3, bar patron, high school student.Has he been mentioned in substantial reviews for any of his named roles? But that is not to say he might not hit the big time any day. It happens. If he works a lot, he gets seen. See WP:BIO and particularly WP:NACTOR. Also, being related to notable people does not make him notable. Edison (talk) 00:42, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

Unintentional blanking of others' comments in a talk page
Several times in the past few weeks I have added a comment in a talk page, and when I saved it, someone else's comment was removed somewhere else in the talk page. Here is an example from WP:VPP. Here is an example from an article talk page, where my identifying an old unsigned comment removed someone else's comment at a different spot on the page. I am very certain that before I hit "save," the other lines in question were not selected or highlighted in such a way that they should have been removed when my lines were added. The removed text is often at some distance or in a different section from the one I am editing. It just randomly removes someone else's comment at some other place in the page. either adjacent to or distant from my new text. I have not seen this when I am editing an article page in mainspace. I've seen it in article talk pages and in AFD. Once when I noted it in AFD, I copied the whole AFD thread to my sandbox and did ten test edits, without any recurrence of the bug. The unintentional removal does not happen every time I attempt the same edit on the same page. It does not seem to have anything to do with edit conflict.. If I preview, that does not help to detect or prevent the removal. If I go to "show changes," then the lines which would get removed are shown. Going to "show changes " before each edit, and then examining history and viewing the diff after each edit is really a chore. I am using Windows 8.1 with Google Chrome Version 47.0.2526.106 m, fully updated. Would I be better off using some other browser? Is it a browser issue or a Wikipedia issue?I have 51,000 edits, dating back almost 11 years, and I've never had this problem before, but now it shows up a large proportion of the times I edit a talk page. Edison (talk) 00:19, 9 January 2016 (UTC)
 * This seems to happen randomly and without any warning on high traffic pages, especially ANI. Clicking "show changes" seems to be the only way to prevent it. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 11:50, 9 January 2016 (UTC)
 * The two examples don't look like that issue. In you were editing an old version as shown by . I guess you were viewing the old diff  when you clicked edit. This will edit the version in the diff instead of the current version. If you were editing the current version then it's highly unlikely a glitch would have removed the eight latest posts from different parts of the page. Something else happened in  but I don't know why. A paragraph and the following newline was replaced by ", ". It couldn't have happened by editing an old version. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:58, 9 January 2016 (UTC)
 * It is possible that the Who's afraid of Virginia Woolf incident was as suggested; I saw an unsigned comment, scrolled back through page history to an old dif, in order to determine who added the unsigned comment, identified the unsigned editor, and saved an edited version of the old dif, thereby removing more recent comments. But the general problem has occurred several times in recent weeks, when I am definitely adding a comment to the most recent version of the page, and not scrolling back through history. I merely add lines of text, and other lines of text, not necessarily adjacent, get deleted. Edison (talk) 04:17, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

University of St Andrews
Please check refs, number 20 and 21 - the quotes on 21 should be left in, but is the format OK? Please check 20 as it does not immediately go to the history section Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.182.146.167 (talk • contribs) —Preceding undated comment added 02:50, 9 January 2016
 * I have updated the URL in reference 20, though it is not strictly relevant since it does not mention either of the dates in the preceding sentence. The previous URL, used in 2013, had the same problem: 2013 version at Archive.org.
 * Reference 21 looks fine to me, and the link displays a Google Books page that verifies the text. References 22, 23 and 24 currently display an error message, but this will disappear when the next version of the citation module is rolled out - see Help talk:CS1 errors/Archive 2. -- John of Reading (talk) 12:11, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

Help:Cite errors/Cite error ref no input
So much for free speech, I just tried to confirm that this PBS, NPR evening news spokeswoman is connected to PBS. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.188.162.148 (talk • contribs)


 * Hello, IP user. You, or anybody, are welcome to add information to articles as long as you comply with our policies. Your edit to Sharon Epperson was in the wrong place in the article (right at the start, but beginning "also"), was misformatted (it had an empty pair -probably not your fault: the editor tool will have put them in expecting you to give a reference to go between them), but the biggest problem was precisely that you did not give a reference. That is why undid your change. If you can find a reliable published source that says that she also reports for CBS, you are welcome to put it in the article, in an appropriate place, and with a citation to the source: see referencing for beginners. --ColinFine (talk) 10:04, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

Emma Thompson
Ref 91 is all wrong - please help thanks101.182.146.167 (talk) 05:06, 9 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Fixed with this edit. The URL was followed by some stray text from another parameter. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:34, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

Help:Cite errors/Universal background checks - cite#3
- Cite error

Please send help, and or snacks...Darknipples (talk) 05:12, 9 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Fixed with this edit. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:30, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

Signon oversight
Hi I have just edited the Religion section of Lesotho. I did my edit without having signed on. But when I tried to sign on I got the message that the current page's changes would be lost if I signed on. I suggest that you enable a sign on from within the Edit page.

Thanks, Ralph Gilbert (Australia) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.3.218.248 (talk)
 * Most browsers can open a link in a new tab or window after right clicking it, or by holding down Ctrl or Shift while you left click it. Use that on the Log in link. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:23, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

University of St Andrews
Please check refs, number 20 and 21 - the quotes on 21 should be left in, but is the format OK? Please check 20 as it does not immediately go to the history section Thanks so much101.182.146.167 (talk) 08:50, 9 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Please stop re-posting your question. It is five sections up from here. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:54, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

I have checked - but my questions regarding refs. remain unanswered
I am hoping that my concerns regarding the University of St Andrews page will be answered. That is why I reposted. Sorry if I annoyed u guys. R u able to fix up the refs on that page?101.182.146.167 (talk) 10:15, 9 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Don't be so impatient. This is the fourth time you have started a new section on this subject on this page in less than 8 hours, and you have also asked two individual editors on their user talk pages. Wikipedia is edited by volunteers and they have other things to do apart from answering your questions.  They will probably give their priority to answering questions from other people who aren't so impatient. --David Biddulph (talk) 10:19, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

Thanks David Biddulph - I will be patient - sorry again — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.182.146.167 (talk) 10:26, 9 January 2016‎ (UTC)


 * And please remember to sign your messages. --David Biddulph (talk) 10:30, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

Sorry - here is my signing101.182.146.167 (talk) 10:43, 9 January 2016 (UTC) Thanks again


 * WP:BITE - remember not to bite the newcomers! Adam talk - contribs 23:59, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

Talk page update.
Talk:Freedom of Worship (painting) will is not updating to reflect that Freedom of Worship (painting) was the WP:TFA on January 6. It currently says "This article is currently on Wikipedia's Main Page as Today's featured article."--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 14:30, 9 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Fixed with a purge --Majora (talk) 14:37, 9 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Thx.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 05:00, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

Getting information posted
I am the Author of "The Turk, Chess Automaton" and other books including science fiction short stories and many articles about chess history, and am a noted author (see your references under "The Turk" on your site (Levitt)). I wanted to post a short biographical article. How can I get that on Wikipedia? (I have won many awards as a writer and feel it should be included in your work.

Thank you,

Dr. Gerald M. Levitt — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bonsai777 (talk • contribs) 16:50, 9 January 2016‎ (UTC)


 * Please see WP:AUTOBIOGRAPHY. Dismas |(talk) 17:14, 9 January 2016 (UTC)
 * As that policy says, the submission of autobiographies is strongly discouraged due to conflict of interest. If one of your readers wants to write your biography, you may request that from one of them, knowing that other Wikipedia editors will remove any peacock language.  Robert McClenon (talk) 22:43, 9 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Going through Articles for Creation is one possibility. They will determine if the article is too promotional, satisfies out inclusion criteria, and is formatted properly.  The other option is to request that someone else create the article.  If you can point me toward a few reviews or awards, I'll do it.  You can leave that information on my talk page. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 04:35, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

Denise Pearson
How do I put Denise Pearson  Discography  and album to her page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stacyolds1972 (talk • contribs)
 * Great question, are you asking about the technical how to, such as how to use HELP:TABLES or what the guidelines are for including them? Tiggerjay (talk) 01:05, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

Sesame street (saskia resume role). gameo or web serie?
Hi, I found on Saskia's Maarleveld's resume the role's: Kiwi and super computer. for super force 2.0 but my ask is. super force is a game or a web serie?--Maxie1hoi (talk) 20:03, 9 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Hello, . This is a page for help with editing Wikipedia, not for discussing information in articles: somebody may be able to advise you at the Reference Desk. If you do not know what something means, you certainly should not be adding it to a Wikipedia article. In fact, none of the information you have added to Saskia Maarleveld is referenced: please do not add unsourced material, especially to an article about a living person: unsourced information is of very little value, because a reader has no way of knowing whether it is valid or not. Please read references for beginners.
 * it is sourced! The info.--Maxie1hoi (talk) 13:04, 10 January 2016 (UTC)


 * It is now, . But none of the three sources now in the article are independent of her, so the article does nothing to establish that she is notable (in Wikipedia's special sense), so the article is liable to be deleted if somebody does not add references to significant coverage in independent reliable published sources. I am dubious whether the resume (or any resume) is acceptable as a source at all: first, I do not think it counts as published - we have no way of telling who wrote and shared that google doc; secondly, even assuming it is from Maarleveld herself, resumes are not always truthful (I'm not saying there is anything wrong with this one in particular, just that we cannot take the information in it as reliable). This is why we strongly prefer independent sources. --ColinFine (talk) 22:47, 10 January 2016 (UTC)
 * It is reliable source! 1. She is credit it for winx (Tecna). And on linkedin she say it, that she is Officer Jenny in seeason 17 from pokemon: xy on cn! And on her site she say it: catch me as Jenny in pokemon on cn! And yoko in yugioh!--Maxie1hoi (talk) 20:33, 11 January 2016 (UTC)


 * No, it is not a reliable source. I could make up a resume for her, and post it on Google docs, and nobody would have any way of telling whether mine was more or less authentic than the one you have linked to. As for her LinkedIn site and her own website: they are reliable for establishing that she says these things; but people (in general) are not always truthful about themselves. Basically, Wikipedia has hardly any interest in what anybody says about themselves: it is only interested in what people unconnected with them say about them. Please read identifying reliable sources and primary sources. --ColinFine (talk) 23:51, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

Robert Aloysius McMahon Jr
The page in the subject line is being proposed for deletion. It says that it isn't cited correctly. This is my first time and I have added links to the media borough website to cite his being mayor. I also cited one of his projects website to cite that he is the cofounder. What am I missing? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mark ailer mcmahon (talk • contribs) 21:25, 9 January 2016‎ (UTC)

Thanks for the help.
 * If the article in question is Robert Aloysius McMahon, Jr., then it is tagged for speedy deletion as copyright violation. Read the copyright violation policy.  The fact that you have the copyright isn't important, unless you release the copyright under an appropriate license, and corporations will almost never release their copyrights under licenses that Wikipedia will accept.  If the issue is something else, what?  Robert McClenon (talk) 22:41, 9 January 2016 (UTC)