Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2016 July 9

= July 9 =

Why are the fields with information in not showing on this template?
Hi

Can someone explain (and fix if you know how) why the fields in the template Open-source attribution used in this article are not displaying even though they are filled in?

Thanks

--John Cummings (talk) 04:31, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

Think this is the link. Template:Open-source attribution/doc. Eagleash (talk) 04:39, 9 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Hi, yes this is the link, I created a lot of the template and documentation for it but when I fill in the fields they don't appear in the article :( --John Cummings (talk) 05:06, 9 July 2016 (UTC)


 * I'm afraid I don't know enough about template editing (or even if I'm able to do that per Wiki policy etc.). It might be worth asking one of the "template experts" such as User talk:SMcCandlish what is wrong. Eagleash (talk) 05:12, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Parameter names are case sensitive. Some of your parameters are capitalized and others are not.  Choose one style or the other; don't do both because that just confuses people.  I would recommend all lowercase because that seems to be the most common flavor. (Yes, you'll need to visit all of the pages where this template is used and make any corrections so that extant cases comply with the new order of things.)
 * And document parameters but don't include parameters in the documentation that aren't supported in the template (unless they have been deprecated and removed so document that).  See the examples that contain plural.
 * —Trappist the monk (talk) 10:49, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
 * —Trappist the monk (talk) 10:49, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

Problem with Harvard referencing
Life of Joseph Smith from 1827 to 1830 uses Harvard referencing, which is acceptable, but it has at least one problem here: in the "Early transcription and translation" section, we have a citation to two authors, which is coded ; — no problem on the face of things, but this produces the odd result of "(Howe 1834, p. 264); (Jesee 1976, p. 3)". This really ought to be "(Howe 1834, p. 264; Jesee 1976, p. 3)" (interior parentheses removed), but how to do it with the harv template here in use? I checked WP:PAREN for help, plus the featured article Actuary that it mentions (its citations are partly manually drawn up, not with the same templates), and the doc for harv, but if this is addressed anywhere, I can't find it. Nyttend (talk) 06:13, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
 * I don't think harv supports this function (at least from what this section of the documentation says but you can achieve the same effect using harvnb. This will generate the citation text without brackets, so you can add the brackets where desired. For example,

gives Article text  Intelligent  sium  09:55, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks, but I wasn't sure if switching to a different group of citation templates like this would be a considered a violation of WP:CITEVAR. Nyttend (talk) 02:59, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

Lupton family
I have failed with the new ref near citation 101. What happened? There are accents all over the place. Please help. Thanks so much Srbernadette (talk) 07:04, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Someone fixed it for you. Look at the diff to see what was wrong.-- S Philbrick (Talk)  14:00, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

Mistake
Hi,

I believe I have found a mistake in this article,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.308_Winchester

The specifications state that the Bullet diameter 0.308 in (7.8 mm), yet on the diagram it is .3091 in (7.85). This is incorrect.

Cheers — Preceding unsigned comment added by 120.145.156.234 (talk) 10:30, 9 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Hello, having looked at the page, it does appear inconsistent. Having said that, it is probably something that should be raised on the article talk-page or at the appropriate WikiProject (see the talk-page) where knowledgeable editors can assist. Thanks for pointing it out though. Eagleash (talk) 11:35, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

Login without password and email
I created an accout on Wikipedia to enter for the Wiki Loves Nature(WLA) photography contest. I forgot my password. When creating an account, giving the email is optional so I have not given a email, but now I cannot reset my password. In case I WIN WLA, what can I do with it without my account from which I sent the entry.my account is awesomepeople113

182.64.100.175 (talk) 18:03, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Can not you just create a new account and re-upload these three images (possibly with higher resolution)? Ruslik_ Zero 20:25, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

Ruslik_zero, the deadline was till 1st July so I cannot re-upload the images — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.64.100.175 (talk) 18:54, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

Referencing errors on Trinity Seven
Reference help requested.

Hi, I am working on the English as well as the Dutch wikipage of mr. Joep Franssens, a Dutch composer. I have already a licence of his photo made bt mr van Meer and this is existing in the database of wiki. But I cannot get it uploaded on the English page. Can you help? Or can you do this for me? Thanks a lot Ieke

Thanks, IekevanderHuijzen (talk) 18:05, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi - you can upload the photo using Special:Upload. However, if you needed to get special permission to use it, it may be better to document the licence by sending an email to our OTRS team. You can use this tool to do so. Please note that the photo must be under a free licence (e.g., CC-BY-SA, GFDL, public domain, a few others) for inclusion in Wikipedia. Intelligent  sium  23:03, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

Gadget-Cat-a-lot
Hi, the Gadget-Cat-a-lot can modify just 200 pages at the same time.

Haw i can do to modify all pages of a category at the same time?

-- Smith 18:12, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
 * You may consider WP:AWB. Ruslik_ Zero 20:19, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

Removing automatically-added categories to transcluded pages
Hello. Is it possible to customarily remove categories that have been automatically added while transcluding the SLBY template? I have recently created a userpage within my own userspace and I am struggling to delete these categories that have been implemented by default. Thanks.--Neve–selbert 18:38, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
 * There is currently no way to prevent addition of this categories when you transclude this template. Ruslik_ Zero 20:18, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

Issue with photo
I loaded a photo recently to my page that I OWN because I took it off MY camera. It's a JPEG and seems to fit the standard- I tried loading it up twice and it doesn't seem to be getting excepted? Can you help me out here- need this photo to complete my page to Industry standard.

Thanks, ~JDS19:06, 9 July 2016 (UTC)Mojo4212 (talk)
 * You have uploaded three photos so far. Can you clarify what is your problem? Ruslik_ Zero 20:16, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

Ruslik0: Hello. The problem is I don't see it on the actual Wikipedia page with my career listings of Early Years, Theater, Television, Film. That's really the problem. I don't understand- am I loading up something the wrong way? Would love your input. Thanks- Jerry Della Salla


 * Hello, . You have uploaded the image File:Strike One Premiere-2014.jpeg ,but on the page Jerry Della Salla you have told it to use a file called File:Strike One Premiere-2014, which doesn't exist: do you see the difference?
 * Three other points I want to raise, not directly related to your question: first, it is not your page, it is Wikipedia's page. Secondly, when an image is freely licensed (as this one is) it is greatly preferable to upload it to Wikimedia commons rather than to Wikipedia, because then other Mediawiki projects (eg other language Wikipedias) can also use it: the Upload wizard will help. Thirdly, you have signed your question above "JDS". Are you Jerry Della Salla? If you are, please read why autobiography is strongly discouraged at Wikipedia. --ColinFine (talk) 22:21, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

Colin: Hello. The problem is I don't see it on the actual Wikipedia page with my career listings of Early Years, Theater, Television, Film. That's really the problem. I don't understand- am I loading up something the wrong way? Would love your input. Thanks- Jerry Della Salla


 * As ColinFine's post clearly shows, you omitted ".jpeg" from the file name when you tried to add it. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:45, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

Colon trick with links to Wiktionary?
When, if ever, is it necessary to use the colon trick when linking to a Wiktionary entry in an article? Example: List of animal sounds; some of the links to Wiktionary do it and some don't. (If the effect of the colon trick is as I understand it, it should make no difference for Wiktionary.)  Thanks! --Middle 8 (t • c &#124; privacy • COI) 20:37, 9 July 2016 (UTC)


 * I believe you are right, . You may use the colon any time you are specifying a namespace or a Mediawiki project (or both), but it is needed only for those cases where a link will otherwise be handled specially: categories, files, and interwiki links. --ColinFine (talk) 22:25, 9 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Hi . won't have been pinged as you put a hyphen in the user name. So I've added a new ping to make sure that they see your reply. Cheers to you both. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 22:33, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

why do you censor
why do editors feel they can exercise judgement over content ? Who are the people that feel they are suitable for this job and why do they qualify? If contributors are censored by needing to cite mainstream sources then what is the point of Wiki? It is therefore just the same as any other source of information but more disingenuous — Preceding unsigned comment added by Calvinharrisvile (talk • contribs) 23:38, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

why do you censor info by asking for references, as if citing them makes them in any way credible or objective — Preceding unsigned comment added by Calvinharrisvile (talk • contribs) 23:39, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Because verifiability is a core tenant of Wikipedia. And asking for reliable sources is not censorship. We strive for accuracy. Accuracy requires sources. --Majora (talk) 23:48, 9 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Note that the above user has been blocked as a vandalism-only account for the purposes of attack edits on the topic of Calvin Harris. KaisaL (talk) 00:32, 10 July 2016 (UTC)


 * That would be tenet, unless it pays rent. Clarityfiend (talk) 02:38, 10 July 2016 (UTC)