Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2016 June 14

= June 14 =

Referencing errors on Dan Avidan
Reference help requested.

Thanks, Hands1236Meme (talk) 00:39, 14 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Hello, I've fixed the line-feed character error and also replaced the url (reference 8 after the composition of woods used) with the only one I could find to the GSR200 (Ibanez website). May not be specific enough. Eagleash (talk) 03:35, 14 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Update: another editor has deleted that paragraph as lacking relevance, anyway. Eagleash (talk) 03:35, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

Archives on subproject talk pages
I on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Catholicism/Canon law Task Force but the archives does not show up in the template. Can someone take a look and see why it doesn't work. –BoBoMisiu (talk) 04:43, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

Never mind, it works now. –BoBoMisiu (talk) 04:47, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

Article review
Hi,

I posted on 09:54, 8 June 2016‎ Ajithakumar1693 (talk | contribs) (←Created page with '== Planys Technology == Planys Technology is an Indian startup that designs and manufactures Remotely operated underwater vehicle and provides underwa...'). Kindly provide a tentative date of publishing after review of the post.

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ajithakumar1693 (talk • contribs) 06:02, 14 June 2016 (UTC)


 * , you have written about Planys Technology on your own user page. What you have written has not been submitted for review. If it were submitted, it would be rejected – for one thing, the referencing is not done properly. I suggest that you read Your first article to learn how to create an article, and use your user page for its intended purpose: writing about yourself and your activities within Wikipedia. Maproom (talk) 07:20, 14 June 2016 (UTC)


 * , I suggest moving your user page to a sandbox page, say, User:Ajithakumar1693/Planys Technology, and developing the text there. --CiaPan (talk) 11:57, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

(talk) Hi, Thank you so much for the reply,i did create a subpage as you mentioned and copied the said content and saved it. Now what other changes should i make to get the page published? Please guide me with relevant details. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ajithakumar1693 (talk • contribs) 12:09, 14 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Read Your first article and WP:Referencing for beginners. David Biddulph (talk) 12:53, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

Merging of articles
These articles Symbols of States of India and Symbols of Indian states and territories have the same meaning and they can be merged to form one single article. The two separate articles are creating confusion. CONTENT PROVIDED IN Symbols of States of India INCLUDES ALL THE CONTENT PROVIDED IN Symbols of Indian states and territories AND THUS I PROPOSE Symbols of Indian states and territories BE DELETED AND Symbols of Indian states and territories INSTEAD REDIRECT TO Symbols of States of India.

Thanks and Regards

--VarunFEB2003 (talk • contribs) 14:38, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

Fine-grained AfD searching for specific professions/occupations
At one point I participated in a deletion discussion where the subject worked in a rather specific profession; let's pretend that it was an audio engineer. I'd like to look for other AfDs about audio engineers, but I can't think of any good way to find them. I'm aware of WikiProject Deletion sorting/Bands and musicians and Category:AfD debates, but the sorting in both is rather high-level. Using the search bar could conceivably work, but there's no guarantee that the name of the profession was used in the deletion discussion. (For example, I went to Articles for deletion/Log/2016 June 14 and did a command-F search for "people" to find biographical AfDs. Not all of them disclose the occupation of the person.) There's Category:Audio engineers, but I'd have to click through to each article's talk page to see if there was a deletion discussion, and at any rate this exercise would only ever return AfDs with keep results, not the delete results.

Anyone know of an easy solution or am I straight out of luck? Thanks, /wiae /tlk  15:13, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

Uploading images
Is it possible to recover deleted images? In short I uploaded some images. The person who took them is prepeared to release the images under a creative commons licence. However, I got busy in real life and never got round to sending the permissions. The files were then correctly deleted. DanielJCooper (talk) 15:56, 14 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Hi, Please see WP:REFUND. You can see the list of your uploads here - NQ (talk)  16:02, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Or you can file the permissions statement (assuming you know the file names) and note in the email that the files have been deleted, and the agent processing the permission will undelete. (A very few agents are not admins, but that can't be addressed if it happens.) In fact, you probably don't have to explain- many of the permissions statements I received were because there had been a deletion, so undeletion is routine.-- S Philbrick (Talk)  17:18, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

Navigation box assistance
Hi, I am trying to edit this navigation box but can't figure it out. Thanks for your help. Template:Power companies of China I would like to split the "Other Power Generators" category into three sub-categories: Thermal, Nuclear, Hydro. I would also like to merge this template into it: Template:Power equipment manufacturers of China by adding a fourth category to the Power companies of China box: Power equipment manufacturers. The fourth category has two sub-categories: Power Generation, Transmission & Distribution

Muzzleflash (talk) 16:06, 14 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Please see User:Muzzleflash/sandbox1‎ for the navbox code. - NQ (talk)  16:24, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

Thank you. I have completed the merger. Muzzleflash (talk) 16:49, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

Sorting rows in a table: What does this code do?
Please see this article: List of elements. The relevant computer code in List of elements is as follows:



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 * −999 || !a || !a || !a || −999 || −999 || −999 || −999 || −999 || −999 || −999 || −999 || −999



What is all that business with the -999 values and the !a notations? What does that do? What is that supposed to do? Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 16:43, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Looks like it is (or was) to do with sorting, according to the . — crh 23   &thinsp;(Talk) 16:59, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
 * See Help:Sorting - NQ (talk)  17:00, 14 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks. But, sorry, I still don't understand.  I know that it has some relationship to the whole sorting process.  Beyond that, I still don't understand what it is or what it's doing.  Can someone clarify in plain English?  Thanks.   Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 17:21, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
 * The row is not displayed due to . It was added to control whether columns are sorted alphabetically or numerically so you can just ignore it if there are no sorting problems. "10" comes before "5" in alphabetic sorting because it compares one character at a time and "1" comes before "5". In numerical sorting "5" should come before "10". The table sorting software and how it determines sort method for a column has changed several times. I'm not sure the code is needed today but it seems harmless to leave it in. If it's removed then there may be a risk that a column with numbers will start sorting alphabetically. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:20, 14 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks. So, in other words: the columns with a -999 notation are telling the software to sort this column numerically; and the columns with a !a notation are telling the software to sort this column alphabetically.  Is that what's happening?  Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 04:45, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes, that's basically what was happening but it's not the best or most reliable system with the current sorting software. TheDJ has used a better system in [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_elements&diff=725366199&oldid=725239068]. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:45, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
 * I changed this to use the more understandable methodology of using data-sort-type. —Th e DJ (talk • contribs) 06:30, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, all. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 18:04, 16 June 2016 (UTC)

Name change back to List of wars involving Georgia
List of wars involving Georgia redirects to List of wars involving Georgia (country).

"List of wars involving Georgia (country)" is not really sounding better than List of wars involving Georgia.

How the title can be changed? I was going to do a copy paste move but I just read somewhere that its not allowed. Lorstaking (talk) 19:25, 14 June 2016 (UTC)


 * A copy-paste move is definitely not allowed, and would soon be reverted. If you really want to move a page, you click on its "Move" tab, and select "Move", the only item under that tab. But I wouldn't recommend it in this case, if you want a peaceful life. Georgia used to be about the US state, and is now a disambiguation page, following several heated debates about whether the state or the country should be the primary topic. Maproom (talk) 19:38, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Many enthusiastic inexperienced editors think that copy-paste moves are a good idea, as a way to give an article multiple names, because they don't understand redirects. However, as noted, copy-paste moves are not permitted because they strip history.  This is really only a primary title question.  (As such, it isn't that important, because redirects support multiple titles well.)  As noted, it should be discussed as a Requested Move.  Robert McClenon (talk) 16:26, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
 * But we don't have "list of wars involving".... a state, article just anywhere. It always involves a country or former country. That's why I am thinking that its valid to have this article named after the country without specifying if its country or state. Lorstaking (talk) 19:42, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
 * It is true that we don't have lists of wars involving states, but there have been wars involving the state. How many wars there have been involving the state depends on how you count, whether you count wars only fought on its soil (two) or wars in which its people fought (all of the wars involving the United States).
 * (ec) Definitely do not do a copy/paste to move an article. You'll lose the history, and it will just need to be undone.  Moving the article over a the existing redirect will require the assistance of an admin.  You would start a discussion by placing a Template:Requested_move on the talk page of the article.  Note that given the long-standing dispute over the naming of the Georgia (Country) articles (and related items), I think you're not likely to achieve consensus for such a move.  Rwessel (talk) 19:45, 14 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Why not name it List of wars involving the country of Georgia? Clarityfiend (talk) 01:06, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

Problem with business page
Hi,

This email is with regards to our page 'Arre Chintu'. Our page is being blocked on Hi.Wikipedia (Hindi) because instead of using citation text,the person responsible was posting links.

Our website: https://www.arrechintu.com/

I've sent a couple of emails previously but haven't heard anything from Wikipedia. We have been mistakenly taken to be spammers due to this reason.

Below is our URl link ofour page on Wikipedia for your review:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Spam

We apologize on behalf of our employee for not adhering to the warning messages on time.

We are now aware of all the possible activities that is considered to be spamming on Wikipedia.

We would like to know the process of excluding us from the spammers list. Please consider this email since it is very important for our business page to be a part of Wikipedia.

Kind regards, Annette — Preceding unsigned comment added by Annette02 (talk • contribs) 23:35, 14 June 2016 (UTC)


 * , there are a number of things to respond to in your post above, so I'm going to try to go point by point.
 * This is not an email. It is not going to one person or small committee. It is viewable by the entire world and anyone can reply to you here. We do not generally use email to discuss Wikipedia topics except in fairly rare cases. This is not one such case.
 * This is the English Wikipedia. The Hindi Wikipedia is at https://hi.wikipedia.org. The English and Hindi Wikipedias are mostly independent of one another. They have different rules and guidelines there. If you have a problem on the Hindi Wikipedia, you'll have to take it up with them there.
 * There is no Arre Chintu article here at the English Wikipedia. And as far as I can tell there never has been.
 * If your company did have an article written about it here, it would not be yours. Please see WP:OWN and WP:NOT. Nobody owns an article here. Even companies like Apple, Microsoft, and Coca-Cola do not have any say on what is in the articles about them here. Wikipedia is also not a form of advertising or promotion.
 * As far as I can tell, your account does not have any restrictions on it over and above what any new editor would.
 * If you have further questions about the English Wikipedia, please feel free to post them here in this section of the Help Desk. Dismas |(talk) 00:11, 15 June 2016 (UTC)


 * This help desk is for the English Wikipedia. Each Wikipedia language is edited independently and we have no authority over the Hindi Wikipedia. arrechintu.com is blocked at hi:MediaWiki:Spam-blacklist. Languages can have different policies and procedures and I don't know the Hindi Wikipedia or the Hindi language. At the English Wikipedia a blacklist removal request would be posted at the English equivalent of hi:MediaWiki talk:Spam-blacklist, but that page has no edits since 2013 and I don't know whether it's watched. arrechintu.com was added in [//hi.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E0%A4%AE%E0%A5%80%E0%A4%A1%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AF%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%95%E0%A4%BF:Spam-blacklist&diff=3058449&oldid=3043434 this] edit by a Hindi administrator who can be contacted with the "विषय जोड़ें" tab at hi:सदस्य वार्ता:संजीव कुमार. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:19, 15 June 2016 (UTC)