Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2016 June 7

= June 7 =

Urgent issue with company story
I am a paid consultant to the company Conduit (company), and as such have a WP:COI and cannot make direct edits to this article. I just noticed two inflammatory and highly damaging sentences were added to the article without any citation. For a normal edit request, I would just wait for a "request edit" on a new Talk section to be answered, but the request edit queue has been running anywhere from 3 to 9 months. In cases where a company is facing substantial damage to its reputation from a change that violates WIkipedia policy, I believe WP: COI says that a request at the Help Desk may be made. I've detailed the request here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Conduit_%28company%29#Remove_false_assertions_without_attribution Thank you. BC1278 (talk) 00:19, 7 June 2016 (UTC)BC1278
 * I removed the material. It is unsupported by references on either Conduit (company) and Conduit toolbar. -- The Voidwalker  Discuss 00:26, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
 * I have restored the material, adding references. Maproom (talk) 08:16, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Maproom's action to restore the inflammatory sentences are still unsupported by the sources and I request again that they be removed. I explain why in detail on the Talk page of the article, since the explanation seems too detailed for this board. But in short, the sources don't say anything close to what is in the statements and, both are unreliable. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Conduit_%28company%29#Remove_false_assertions_without_attribution BC1278 (talk) 21:09, 13 June 2016 (UTC)BC1278

This page is protected from creation
Sir my page was deleted due to some copyright issue. following is the link of that page. Its an most important one. its says that This page is protected from creation, so only administrators can create it. Kindly create it for me i will not violate copyright rule. Will be thankful to you Link : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaudhary_Mohsin_Hussain

Please understand this is not Facebook - we only have articles on people who meet the requirements of Notability (people) - if you have not received significant coverage in reliable sources that are completely independent of you - such as articles in national or international magazines or newapapers, you would be wasting your time trying to write the article. - Arjayay (talk) 08:31, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Hello, . Please read Your first article, and use the Articles for creation process to create a draft rather than trying to create the article in main space: when you send it for review, the reviewer who accepts it will arrange for it to be created in main space. However, if you are Chaudhary Mohsin Hussain (as seems likely from your username) please be aware that Wikipedia strongly discourages people from writing about themselves: see Autobiography for why. Finally, when you post on talk or discussion pages, please sign your contribution with four tildes ( ~ ). --ColinFine (talk) 08:23, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
 * I see that the deletions were not a copyright issue, as claimed, but rather that "Article about a real person, which does not credibly indicate the importance or significance of the subject"

Photos
hi I see u have very few photos of Swellendam old houses??? I have most of them. it's free Yes/No cheers Rupert — Preceding unsigned comment added by 197.245.215.36 (talk) 08:20, 7 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Hello, Rupert. Thank you for your offer. If you took the pictures yourself, and are willing to grant a free licence to use them, you are very welcome to upload them to Wikimedia Commons: just use the Upload wizard, and it will take you through the steps. If you did not take them, then we probably can't use them unless the pictures are old enough for copyright to have expired. --ColinFine (talk) 08:26, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi there. Before uploading, I will also suggest you give a quick look at Help:Uploading images and Help:Files. Quite informative. Thanks. Xender Lourdes (talk) 09:26, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

Changing an image on Wikipedia
How do i change an image
 * In which article do you want to change an image? Where, at present, is the image you want to change it to? Maproom (talk) 12:56, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

URL enconding - archive.today/jt83s
My question regards the use of URL shorteners, since they are not allowed on Wikipedia according to this page. Despite this, they give us the "tip" of using URL encoding in order to avoid this problem, however I have no clue how to use it, and yes I have already red the all page 2-3 times. The url in question is already in the title.

Kind regards, MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 11:49, 7 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Hello, . I'm not sure what you mean. There are no dodgy characters in "archive.today/jt83s", so it doesn't need URL encoding. If I go to it, it redirects to archive.is/jt83s, which is an archive of http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/playlist/ : that last is what you should use. Or am I misunderstanding what you are trying to achieve? --ColinFine (talk) 12:09, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Perhaps I should have been more explicit here. I can't use the last one since it has regular updates and the song in question "Gorilla" is no longer there and the only place to be found is on that archive (I have searched on wayback machine and webcication, already). Nevertheless, I should use that first because it is an "unreliable source" and secondly since it is a a shortner. So is there any way of solving this problem? I tried to submit it to the white list but they don't accept shortners. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 12:35, 7 June 2016 (UTC)


 * This is not about shorteners, . If you read this you'll see that archive.is specifically has been blacklisted, partly because of the way in which links were added, and partly because of concerns about the quality of the site (though not everybody agreed). This means, I think, that if that is the only place that a source can be found, then it cannot be added to Wikipedia. (Note that reliability always rests on the reputation of the source or publisher: if archive.is is not regarded as reliable, then nothing hosted on it can be regarded as reliable). URL encoding is not relevant: that is only relevant when a shortener is used because the URL has special chraracters. Sorry. --ColinFine (talk) 13:35, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the clarification. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 14:09, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

Publishing a Draft
Hello,

I created a draft in my account. I am having difficulty moving the draft to a published page. How do I do this?

The title of the draft is Adia Kamaria.

Adia McKenzie

Adiamckenzie (talk) 14:09, 7 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Assuming we're talking about Draft:Adia Kamaria, another editor has already reviewed it and given you feedback. In order to make this an actual article, you'll need to find reliable sources that talk about the subject, and are independent of their work. You have some references, but it looks like most or all of them are written by the subject - so that's not going to work, unfortunately. Once you've added independent sources, you can click the "Resubmit" link in the box at the top of the draft and someone will have another look. UltraExactZZ Said~ Did 14:35, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Moreover, most of Draft:Adia Kamaria was a direct copy of this page. Wikipedia takes copyright violation very seriously, and I have therefore deleted the copied text. Maproom (talk) 14:47, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

Referencing errors on The Australian Ballet
Reference help requested.

Apparently my edit caused a cite error on The Australian Ballet page, but I can't find the error. Sorry. Polecule (talk) 15:14, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, Polecule (talk) 15:14, 7 June 2016 (UTC)


 * : Among the text you removed from the article was this: : this is a citation to a named reference defined elsewhere in the article. The warning was saying that there was now a named reference which was not used: you needed to remove the reference as well. has fixed it, in this edit. --ColinFine (talk) 15:30, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

Help:Cite errors/Cite error references no text
I'm not quite sure why the citings of '6' and '11' are in red. Please assist thankyou — Preceding unsigned comment added by JaredHaynie (talk • contribs) 16:59, 7 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Article = Sparkadia. Please leave a link to whichever article you require help with. In this case it seems you have used a ref name but have not actually assigned that name to a reference. Thus. . If you put that formatting at the first use of the ref then you need only write at subsequent uses. Eagleash (talk) 17:10, 7 June 2016 (UTC)


 * the problem was that you have invoked a reference but you have never defined it first. I have deleted both incorrect citations. You can reintroduce them later if you wish in the manner that Eagleash has defined. Ask again if you want help. Xender Lourdes (talk) 17:19, 7 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks ...seem to be following around in circles on this one! Eagleash (talk) 17:32, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
 * He he. I do that a lot when I am singing in my performances. Xender Lourdes (talk) 17:34, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

Images of old TV Guides
I am putting together an article for a local Chicago TV show host, Angel Casey. Her estate has pictures of media in which she was included, some of which may be seen here:

However, I don't know if it is acceptable to include these images in the wiki article. The publications are property of the Sun-Times and thus I can't add them to Wikimedia Commons. However I have not been able to find images of these TV Guide issues on the Sun-Times' official websites, so I cannot link directly there either.


 * My company firewall doesn't like that site. That said, magazine covers generally aren't able to be used in the article for the person on the cover. I went through a lot of this with trying to put Playboy covers in the articles for the centerfolds and other people that appeared on the cover. Basically, it doesn't fulfill the requirements of WP:FAIRUSE. Since TV Guide already has an image, which isn't even a cover either, I doubt that the covers can be used anywhere. Sorry. Dismas |(talk) 18:28, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

How do I put categories at the top of the article?
When audting articles, it is a minor inconvenience to scroll to the bottom of the page to check on the categories assigned. Is there a way to to format the article so that the categories appear at the top of the article? I understand per WP:ORDER that the category markup must be placed toward the bottom of the article; I simply want to change the article's rendered appearance. Thanks in advance for your help, or a pointer to a better venue in which to ask this question. --Mark viking (talk) 19:54, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
 * There is no way to alter where categories are displayed to readers in articles (placing a category link anywhere else than the bottom will still result in the category being displayed below the article). You can, however, control how categories are displayed to you: Help:User style. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 20:16, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
 * ✅ Brilliant, thank you! Yes, this is just for my personal use. --Mark viking (talk) 20:20, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

Vandal?
There's someone editing pages relevant to Greek soccer with info about a Greek-Australian player with the name of Sakis Theodoropoulos. This player is fictional. The only thing I could find about him was a Facebook page of low outrach and obviously false claims. I removed his changes, also adding some of my own, and he went and buggered up the page again. I try to undo his edits, but Wiki won't let me... So is this guy a Vandal? And if he is, can an admin block him or something? Andreas George Skinner (talk) 20:57, 7 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Can you give some links to the articles concerned so that editors can take a look. Thanks. Eagleash (talk) 21:21, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
 * You should read Vandalism to learn how to determine if someone is a vandal or not. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 21:31, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for that. Andreas George Skinner (talk) 10:26, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Dismas has supplied a page already, thanks, Dismas! Also included was the Panionios page, which started me off, but I reverted it now, so it's OK. Andreas George Skinner (talk) 10:26, 8 June 2016 (UTC)


 * , this search should show you all the articles where the name is used. That might help your vandal fighting.  Dismas |(talk) 23:16, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Ah, thank you! Andreas George Skinner (talk) 10:26, 8 June 2016 (UTC)

Referencing errors on Helen Clark
Reference help requested.

A referencebot left me a message stating that [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=724061256 my edit] resulted in an error on the Helen Clark article. I am unsure what the error is and how to fix it.

Thanks, Humongous125 (talk) 21:30, 7 June 2016 (UTC)



The ref. was missing the "url=" from the appropriate parameter. Eagleash (talk) 21:44, 7 June 2016 (UTC)