Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2016 March 9

= March 9 =

Need an expert in Template:Sfn
In The Garden of Words, there are multiple templates with similar data:

They were all previously the same (just "Director and Cast Interview (Blu-ray)" for the name of the ref) except for the  content. However, because that part was different, they would give errors: "Cite error: Invalid tag; name 'FOOTNOTEDirector_and_Cast_Interview_.28Blu-ray.29201332:10' defined multiple times with different content (see the help page). Cite error: Invalid tag; name 'FOOTNOTEDirector_and_Cast_Interview_.28Blu-ray.29201332:10' defined multiple times with different content (see the help page)."

How do we get them to all point to the same ref but have different  content? I hope that all makes sense. ··· 日本穣 ·  投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe ·  Join WP Japan ! 01:02, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Looks like it may have just been an extra pipe in some of them before the changes I described above. ··· 日本穣 ·  投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe ·  Join WP Japan ! 01:09, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
 * The equivalent for books would be the Template:Rp, but I don't know if there is any equivalent. :(Naraht (talk) 12:48, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

Family of Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge
Hoping that my adding of a photo on this page is all OK. (first time) Please help Srbernadette (talk) 01:36, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Srbernadette Looks fine to me: the only improvement I could suggest is to add the relevant first name into the caption, so the reader can see immediately which Middleton studied there. If you plan to add more pictures to articles, this page explains matters much more concisely than the "official" guidance Noyster (talk),  12:51, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

Suggested improvement to the instructions for requesting a redirect
I just requested a redirect, in error, and was a bit puzzled whether I should immediately delete the request and hopefully make less work for the reviewers, or doing so would somehow mess up the whole process for everyone. In the end I edited the page manually to remove my bad request, but I suggest that the instructions could address this issue. Thanks! 192.118.27.253 (talk) 07:10, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

Referencing errors on Comparison of optical character recognition software
Reference help requested.

I was told that you could fix the bot that's complaining about me removing links to dead sites. The bot's operator apparently goes by a long alphanumeric string to keep them from being identified or being called something mundane like Marie or Paul.

Feel free to revert my edit back to the previous version that goes to the dead site.

Best regards, Tom

Thanks, Tfmorris1 (talk) 07:51, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
 * I have fixed the reference problem. The bot's message included a "help" link; the error description at Help:CS1 errors told me what to do. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:05, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
 * I have fixed the reference problem. The bot's message included a "help" link; the error description at Help:CS1 errors told me what to do. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:05, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

Referencing errors on Unha
Reference help requested.

Hello, since I'm a beginner here in Wikipedia, I have one question. I do check help page, but the CSS coding on defined the reference name really confused me out. Can you help me understand what did it say with simple language and example of the coding?

Thanks, LengthyMer (talk) 09:41, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
 * says "Cite error: The named reference Wright was invoked but never defined". Your edit changed  to  . You changed   to  . Code of form   calls Template:Infobox Rocket/Stage which refers to Template:Infobox rocket. The documentation there shows no   parameter so the parameter is ignored and   was never processed since it was placed in the parameter value. It's also why the infobox stopped saying 120 seconds after your edit. Templates can only understand parameter names they have been coded for. These parameters are usually documented on the template page. Go back to using   if it applies. In the version before your edit  it produced the text "Burn time 120 seconds". PrimeHunter (talk) 10:08, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
 * The problem was in using a nested Infobox rocket/stage, which uses parameter  instead of  . Fixed now.   --CiaPan (talk) 10:24, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Right, my description was inaccurate. Infobox rocket/stage was not used before the edit and has no  parameter. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:35, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you CiaPan and PrimeHunter for helping me out! I guess I need to learn more about Wikipedia editing code and I need to be careful next time! Peace ;) LengthyMer (talk) 04:45, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

Change page name: Turners Cross, Cork
The Wikipedia page for Turners Cross, Cork isn't correct, but I don't know how to change it... Would it mean creating a new page, copying the information and then deleting the old page?

The reason I think it should be changed is
 * 1) It's Turner's Cross not Turners Cross
 * 2) I don't believe the "Cork" part should be there, as on other Cork suburbs, 'Cork' is not mentioned.

Opinions on the name change are also welcomed!

Zumley (talk) 14:11, 9 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Don't copy the information to a new page! Pages are moved using the "move" tab at the top of the page. It's got "Cork" in the name to avoid confusion with other places with a similar name. I've done the move for you, and it's now at Turner's Cross, Cork. DuncanHill (talk) 14:21, 9 March 2016 (UTC)


 * I've also given you a "welcome box" on your talkpage, this has lots of helpful links for you. DuncanHill (talk) 14:25, 9 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Ah wonderful! Thank you very much for you help. I'll have a read of what you posted! Zumley (talk) 14:31, 9 March 2016 (UTC)


 * You will get the "Move" option when your account has made one more edit. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:26, 9 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Thank you! Zumley (talk) 14:31, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

Editing in Sandbox
I am a new user. I have cut and pasted the general article I want to post. Do I have to enter all the formatting code? Or will that automatically be generated when I submit the article for review? — Preceding unsigned comment added by JMWalden (talk • contribs) 17:38, 9 March 2016 (UTC)


 * You ought to read WP:Your first article, and in particular you need to read about reliable sources and referencing. --David Biddulph (talk) 17:44, 9 March 2016 (UTC)


 * It would also be a good thing if you could find articles about similar persons and see how they are constructed. Preferably ones that have existed for some time and yet are not 'dormant'; I.e. they are regularly updated or edited. And yes basically you have to do most, if not all, of the work, and as David points out, referencing is vitally important. Eagleash (talk) 18:05, 9 March 2016 (UTC)


 * No, : Wikimarkup ("formatting code") is not created automatically. It is rarely appropriate to copy and paste material within Wikipedia, because doing so tends to lose the attribution which is legally required by the licence under which most of Wikipedia material is released.
 * It looks as if you have copied that material from an existing Wikipedia article, but there isn't one called Gene Van Dyke, so I'm guessing that you have copied another article and edited it to change the names and places? I guess this would be allowed as long as your edit message gave a wikilink to the original page (without that, it would be a copright infringement), but it is unlikely ever to be appropriate, because all Wikipedia articles should be based almost entirely on what independent reliable published sources have said about a subject, and it seems unlikely that independent sources would match so closely in what they have said about two different subjects.
 * But if, for some reason, it is appropriate to copy part of an article and change the data in it (this is useful to put a template in, such as an infobox for example) you need to copy the source, (from Edit Source) not the rendered copy. --ColinFine (talk) 00:14, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

Request edit - needed once and for all
RE: Travis Lane Stork

Dr. Stork, multiple friends and work colleagues have tried to update his page and they have not been accepted. He is looking for help without being accused of "conflict of interest" to update his OWN page. As a public figure it shouldn't be so difficult. The number one priority is that he has been divorced for close to a year (Spring of 2015) and he wants this updated ASAP. There is other misinformation but for now, he'd like to have his marital status updated.

Again, multiple people have tried to update this, have even cited resources, but the information keeps being taken down. If a publicist or actual figure can't change their own page, who can? And who are the 'volunteers' who deem information worthy or not? We would think that Wikipedia would want the most accurate and up to date information possible.

Please advise ASAP on how and when this can be facilitated. Thank you! 129.228.192.39 (talk) 19:04, 9 March 2016 (UTC)


 * It is not his own page, it's a page about him on Wikipedia, the encyclopedia that anyone can edit. Also, find reliable sources to support your claims. Joseph2302 (talk) 19:20, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
 * The reference provided does include the information but it is not really what Wikipedia would call a reliable source. Eagleash (talk) 19:26, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

He will not provide court documents, that is confidential and highly inappropriate. Can someone please update this for him?!? That's all he is asking. Obviously not anyone can edit because we/he has tried.129.228.192.39 (talk) 19:47, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Unless it's in reliable sources, we cannot change it. Also, stop using request edits, they are for article talkpages not here. Joseph2302 (talk) 19:48, 9 March 2016 (UTC)