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= May 15 =

Rejection by wiki editor "TimTrent" of the proposed WIKI entry on WAC [Women's Action Coalition] by Taylor Kuhn 2015
Seriously unimpressed by this process. Proposed WIKI entry on the Women's Action Coalition was rejected despite abundance of links, sites, articles, books etc. I wrote to Tim Trent after the rejection (his page indicates that he is taking a break) and the only message he sends is to reiterate what already appears on his message board... the point of this would be?

I have screenshots of TT's messages and am trying to attach them but do not see them appearing here.

PLEASE CONTACT me as to how to proceed. Thank you very much,

Dr. Tracy Ann Essoglou

User_talk:Timtrent User_talk:Tracy_ann_essoglou

Below is the letter written to TT sent March 2016

On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 5:50 PM, tracy ann essoglou wrote:

WIKI - WAC Inquiry:

User_talk:Timtrent

Hi Tim,

My name is Dr. Tracy Ann Essoglou: SftPwr.com: interviewArtistActivist: TracyAnnEssoglou LinkedIn:TracyAnnEssoglou Academia.edu/TracyAnnEssoglou/Papers Medium-TracyAnnEssoglou-thinking-architect TAEartworks.squarespace.com MissingModules.wordpress.com SinsoftheNewMillennium.wordpress.com SimplyGrace- WisdomSeries:ExploringCulturalMythInBusiness [radio interview 2/2015 - 1/5]

I was one of the founding members of the Women's Action Coalition: http://archives.nypl.org/mss/3376 which was featured in the New York Times in June of 1992: http://www.nytimes.com/1992/07/12/nyregion/no-more-nice-girls-in-angry-droves-radical-feminists-just-want-to-have-impact.html?pagewanted=all

I also authored the chapter on WAC in the book, But Is It Art?: The Spirit of Art as Activism http://www.amazon.com/But-Is-Art-Spirit-Activism/dp/0941920291

edited by Nina Felshin http://curatorsintl.org/collaborators/nina-felshin

and published by Bay Press in 1995. http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/the-mysterious-disappearance-of-bay-press/Content?oid=9829

I have approximately 35 digital references to the existence of the Women's Action Coalition in addition to the 35 plus boxes in the New York Public Library's Activism Archive, videotapes, slides, soundtracks and other documentation.

So I am wondering why Taylor Kuhn's submission on WAC was rejected by you for lack of "adequate reliable resources?????   Below copied from link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Women's_Action_Coalition

aft:Women's Action Coalition From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Submission declined on 23 April 2015 by Timtrent (talk). This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources. You are encouraged to make improvements by clicking on the "Edit" tab at the top of this page. If you require extra help, please ask a question on the Articles for creation help desk, ask the reviewer that declined your submission, or get help at our live help chat from experienced editors. Find sources: "Women's Action Coalition" – news · newspapers · books · scholar · HighBeam · JSTOR · free images · free news sources · Wikipedia library. Declined by Timtrent 9 months ago.Last edited by HasteurBot 0 seconds ago. Reviewer: Inform author. Resubmit    Please note that if the issues are not fixed, the draft will be rejected again. AFC-Logo Decline.svg

Symbol opinion vote.svg Comment: This has since been created at Women's Action Coalition. Please consider expanding that version of the article Rankersbo (talk) 06:07, 26 September 2015 (UTC)

Symbol opinion vote.svg Comment: We require references from significant coverage about the topic of the article, and independent of it, and in WP:RS please. See WP:42 Fiddle Faddle 12:25, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

AND WHAT CAN I DO TO REMEDY THIS SITUATION?

Thank you very much. Tracy

Tracy Ann Essoglou, PhD.    — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tracy ann essoglou (talk • contribs) 00:41, 15 May 2016 (UTC)


 * I think this is about Women's Action Coalition. It was rejected as an article by in March 2015, when it was in a much worse state than it is now; and accepted two days later by . Since then, it has been greatly improved. I don't understand why you think  has any obligation to help you with it. Maproom (talk) 07:16, 15 May 2016 (UTC)


 * I have left User:Tracy ann essoglou a message on their talk page pointing them to the Teahouse. The article Women's Action Coalition exists and simply requires improvement. I have suggested previously to them on my talk page some time ago, now archived, that they go to that article and improve it. I imagine they have a draft article of the same name about a narrower topic that I declined at WP:AFC on the basis that the more developed article exists. Fiddle   Faddle  07:23, 15 May 2016 (UTC)


 * The draft article has been deleted (refundably) as not having been worked on for 6+ months and thus deemed to be abandoned. I'm truly not sure what point the editor is making. So far as I can tell this is a movement that they state they founded and thus wish to have present. The notability is established, that is clear, and the article is already present. Since they have a massive Conflict of interest with the named organisation they need to understand our rules for editing that article. Fiddle   Faddle  07:29, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

Sandbox Article
Hello, I am working on my first article and I wanted some opinions on how it looked so far and what it might need.

Also, How/where would I move it when it comes time to publish. There is no link....

Thank you in advance for your time — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bajamark013 (talk • contribs) 03:02, 15 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Convenience link: User:Bajamark013/sandbox
 * When the time comes, you could WP:MOVE it to the main article space. That said, you have not shown that Cancer.im is notable enough for an article. The only sources currently are to the website for the organization itself, a LinkedIn profile of the organizer, and a presentation put together by him. There are no references to reliable third party sources. Dismas |(talk) 15:12, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
 * My suggestion is to submit it to Articles for Creation for review rather than moving it directly into mainspace. If you submit it to AFC review, then (with a few exceptions that don't apply here) if it isn't considered to satisfy corporate notability guidelines, it will be declined, and you will be allowed to try to find more reliable sources.  If you move it to article space, also known as mainspace, and other editors do not think that it is notable, it may be subject to any of the various deletion processes.  So:  Use the AFC process rather than "gambling" on moving it to mainspace.  If you have questions about the AFC process, this is a reasonable place to ask them.  Robert McClenon (talk) 20:14, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

Incorrect BIO
Juliette Lewis is Australian NOT American — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.111.10.177 (talk) 07:17, 15 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Can you provide reliable sources that support your claim? Because she was born in Los Angeles, and on a quick look, I didn't see any sources saying she's Australian. Joseph2302 (talk) 07:22, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
 * If she's born in the US she gets automatic U.S. citizenship unless she renounces it later WhisperToMe (talk) 11:24, 18 May 2016 (UTC)

false statements and damaging information within the following page : Victoria University, Switzerland
The page contains the following damaging and incorrect information and formulations :

1. It repeats the words "the organization claims...." suggesting non accuracy of the information provided. The claim relates to accreditation of Victoria and there is no room for claim there. Victoria is accredited by AAIME. 2. The page states that the accreditation agency is founded by a founder of Victoria University. There is nothing wrong with that, as the page suggests, as key accreditation agencies in the United States are founded and managed by the member universities. AACSB has key American business schools within the board and their key officers are drawn from these schools!!! 3. The page refers to the need for approval by "authorities". Accreditation agencies are free market organizations not subject to any government regulation.!!!

Those points were made repeatedly the ostensible "editor" to no avail. Reason, as I have discovered later, is that he is, as he calls himself, a "space freak and a private pilot" with not the least understanding of the management education industry. His use of derogatory word in describing the officers of VU and the organizations involved is a reflection of poor education and arrogant disrespect.

AAIME the accrediting agency is a novel initiative described in several publications including an article in the Academy of Management Journal. A simple google search would have revealed that!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 156.196.138.6 (talk) 12:43, 15 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Could you please explain a little more about the "Association for Accreditation of International Management Education" as the only mention of it in Wikipedia whatsoever is the Victoria University, Switzerland article. - Thank you - Arjayay (talk) 13:02, 15 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Just a quick note, that your vandalism / snide comment on the user's userpage [here] is entirely unacceptable. I have reverted it. Notifying of this discussion, although this is the wrong forum for it. Content disputes should be discussed at the article's talkpage or at one of the various WP:dispute resolution venues. GermanJoe (talk) 13:26, 15 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Can I just comment that the remark "Accreditation agencies are free market organizations not subject to any government regulation" is rather too strong an assertion? It depends on the laws of the country a University is in. For example accreditation in the United Kingdom is tightly regulated by law, and essentially can be carried out only by a recognised University. So that statement, if made of the UK would be false. Universities themselves in the UK are, in effect in turn recognised   by a process, usually but not always, involving the grant of a Royal Charter. I simply dont know what the position would be in Switzerland.Daithidebarra (talk) 15:03, 16 May 2016 (UTC)


 * From my understanding, it is similar in Switzerland. From an earlier discussion about this same institution, somebody posted this on my talk page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jfeise/Archive_1#Eduqua. Essentially, it seems there is only one accepted accreditation agency in Switzerland. That discussion came about because this university had another Swiss certification, which the poster said is more for ISO 9000-style certifications. jfeise (talk) 03:48, 17 May 2016 (UTC)


 * And in the US, accreditation agencies are private, but they have to be recognized by the US Department of Education. So, there certainly is government regulation, contrary to the claim by the IP editor (who is, btw, currently blocked, based on the ANI i mentioned, due to block evasion.) jfeise (talk) 15:13, 18 May 2016 (UTC)


 * I have opened an ANI regarding these personal attacks, legal threats and outing attempts: WP:Administrator's noticeboard/Incidents. jfeise (talk) 13:31, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

Delete image file
This image, uploaded by a subsequently blocked editor, I believe should be deleted. Where should this be proposed? Thanks. Eagleash (talk) 14:55, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Deleted as a blatant copyright violation. -- GB fan 15:01, 15 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks. Eagleash (talk) 15:03, 15 May 2016 (UTC)


 * To answer your question,, if the image is hosted here, then you can use the Twinkle menu at the top of the article and choose the XFD option. To turn Twinkle on, you can do that in your preferences. If the image is hosted at Commons, there is a link on the left of the page that says something like "Nominate for deletion" which will walk you through the process. Dismas |(talk) 16:57, 15 May 2016 (UTC)


 * I don't use twinkle (and don't particularly want to). I've previously deleted images via Commons. Is there somewhere equivalent to (say) Miscellany for Deletion which could be used? Or is that a valid option? Or are you saying that using Twinkle is the only way? Thanks. Eagleash (talk)
 * for uncontroversial cases, use speedy deletion ("general" or "file" criteria) templates. For tricky cases, files are discussed – and if so decided – deleted at WP:Files for discussion. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 17:05, 15 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I didn't think of using CSD! Eagleash (talk) 17:15, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

How can I make image 6 left justified ?
Squatting_position --Penbat (talk) 16:07, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
 * You should not have that section in the article to begin with: Galleries containing indiscriminate images of the article subject are discouraged. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 16:45, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

Creating new article
With which command/tool I can start a new article which is not available in the Wikipedia ? Whether a new article can be written in Hindi language ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rajesh Khurana Chandigarh (talk • contribs) 17:33, 15 May 2016 (UTC) I suggest you read WP:Your first article and then use the Article wizard to guide you through the process. Before you start, please be sure that the subject of the article is notable, in Wikipedia's meaning of the word, including any special requirements for that particular topic, and that you can meet the general notability guideline by citing significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject; or your article will be deleted. As for writing article in Hindi - this is the English Wikipedia, so all articles here have to be in English, but the Hindi Wikipedia can be found here - Arjayay (talk) 17:40, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi Rajesh Khurana Chandigarh

Edward IV of England
Please fix the strange caption - "Restoration" - on this page. Thanks 23:40, 15 May 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Srbernadette (talk • contribs)
 * Done. It had a leading space which causes special formatting. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:57, 15 May 2016 (UTC)