Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2016 May 20

= May 20 =

Odd message
Not sure if this is the right place to ask - when I logged in just now on the English wiki, I had a notification at the top of the page telling me I'd been sent a new message on the Turkish wikipedia, where I do not have an account, ostensibly last August (though I'm certain it wasn't there last time I logged in). The notification message has now vanished, though the (spurious?) welcome message remains. Not sure if any of that's legit, and I don't really understand it if it is? Any idea what's going on, or who to ask? Thanks! AJN (talk) 00:07, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
 * FWIW, a few days ago I received notices about (apparent - I could not read them) welcome messages on three non-English WPs, none of them very recent. Can't seem to find them in the list now, one may have been Persian.  I ignored them after a few seconds of puzzlement.  I wonder if there's a way to see what user and talk pages exist for an account globally (I really don't want to look at all 291 wikis individually)?  Rwessel (talk) 00:30, 20 May 2016 (UTC)


 * :When you create a Wikipedia account, you automatically create accounts on other (Global) sites. You can see this by clicking on preferences at the top of any page and then on 'global account info.' If at any time you have accessed a page on Turkish Wiki., whilst logged in, this will have been 'logged' and the welcome message automatically generated. Eagleash (talk) 00:36, 20 May 2016 (UTC)


 * And of course there is a tool: https://tools.wmflabs.org/meta/userpages/  And there are several additional welcome messages out there in places I've never edited.  Rwessel (talk) 00:38, 20 May 2016 (UTC)


 * It's not necessary (as far as I can tell) to have actually edited, just to have accessed a page. Eagleash (talk) 00:41, 20 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Please see this thread for more information on the issue...Jokulhlaup (talk) 09:40, 20 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks for all the explanations. So the basic answer is that cross-wiki notifications, generated by simply browsing while logged in, have been delayed in showing up and are now bouncing into view? AJN (talk) 23:07, 20 May 2016 (UTC)


 * I think I've come up with a possible better explanation, at least for some of these. It seems that several articles which I've edited have recently been imported into other language wikis, which copies the edit history.  So I do, in fact, have edits (of a sort) in some of these other language wikis.  Rwessel (talk) 06:23, 21 May 2016 (UTC)

Review Edit Aditi Singh
Hi i have recently created an article for a new debutant actress Aditi Singh, but my page keeps on getting rejected can someone please help as we really want her page to be put up on wikipedia — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anuj90 (talk • contribs) 05:25, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi ! If you don't mind could you clarify how do you know Aditi Singh? (As in, are you a friend/family/employer/employee/PR agent etc) --Lemongirl942 (talk) 06:50, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi i am a friend of aditi singh and also run a digital marketing company - Havock Web Designers — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anuj90 (talk • contribs) 08:45, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Alright. I will take this discussion to your talk page. A bit occupied right now, so I will reply later. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 10:00, 20 May 2016 (UTC)


 * ,for your previous question about why the page may be deleted, this is because in Wikipedia we only have articles if the subject is notable. In your case, the subject "Aditi Singh" is an actor. The specific notability guidelines can be found at WP:NACTOR. If she satisfies this, then there may be an article. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 10:06, 20 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Hello, . If she is a "new debutant" actress, it is very likely that she does not yet meet Wikipedia's criteria for Notability: please see WP:UPANDCOMING. The fact that "we really want her page to be put up on Wikipedia" indicates that you are her in order to promote her, rather than to improve Wikipedia. --ColinFine (talk) 10:08, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

Communication on talk pages
Hi, hope this is the right place to ask.

I've got a bit lost in all the how to / FAQS / reference pages. I made a change and some someone reverted it. I wanted to discuss it with them on the talk pages, but I'm not sure how to let them know I did it. I posted their name to begin with, before figuring out how to make it a blue link. I'm unsure as to whether that's going to attract their attention or not? Could someone advise? When is it appropriate or not appropriate to notify someone? Should I have written on the user page instead?

The talk page in question is here Talk:The_Amber_Spyglass

Thanks for your help Scribolt (talk) 06:54, 20 May 2016 (UTC)


 * You can use Template:Reply to. Or you can also use --Lemongirl942 (talk) 06:56, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
 * You can also simply use User:Example and it will send a notification. (Please don't forget to sign your post though, otherwise the notification may not be sent). Generally, I prefer to send a notification only the first time. Once a discussion starts, it is usually not used (as most editors add the page to their watchlist). --Lemongirl942 (talk) 07:00, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

Problem with Shashi kumar(Arjun)

 * Header added — crh 23   &thinsp;(Talk) 11:20, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

Shashi kumar(Arjun) article is getting problem with the content doesn't come right side of the article — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arjun skymax (talk • contribs) 11:16, 20 May 2016 (UTC)


 * If you are asking about the peculiar formatting in Shashi Kumar (Arjun), it is because a leading space on a line prevents proper formatting, see Help:Wiki markup. What is more significant is that there is no evidence that the subject of the article meets Wikipedia's definition of notability, hence the article has been tagged for speedy deletion. I have put some useful links on your user talk page, including WP:Your first article. --David Biddulph (talk) 11:42, 20 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Note also that the standard of English in the attempted article is not good enough for the English Wikipedia. If you haven't got a good enough command of English, then you would be better off editing a Wikipedia in your own native language. --David Biddulph (talk) 11:46, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

Interlanguage wikilinks
I have been copyediting some articles that appear to have originated in non-English wikipedias. I often run across terms that I would like to link, but the only available wikilink is a interlanguage one. Should I add these wikilinks using the same criteria used for English links, or is it better to keep these links to a minimum? Leschnei (talk) 13:19, 20 May 2016 (UTC)


 * This doesn't answer your question, but I wanted to make sure you're aware of ill. Just a friendly FYI.  Dismas |(talk) 13:36, 20 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the FYI; I have used that. It's just that some articles would be full of interlanguage links, and I'm not sure if I should do that. Leschnei (talk) 14:14, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

Using two infobox templates on the same page
How do I use two infobox templates on the same page, without them appearing as separate boxes? For example, a nonprofit museum might use both the and  templates. Thanks all. ~ Quacks Like a Duck (talk) 14:08, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Why would you want two? Just use the more specific one – in your example, infobox museum. Maproom (talk) 17:45, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I've seen this done many times. Can't think of any article examples off the top of my head but I've seen it used in biography articles where both the Model Infobox and Playboy Playmate template have been used within one infobox. Dismas |(talk) 18:36, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Found one! Carmella DeCesare. Dismas |(talk) 18:40, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
 * In this case, I can't see why 2 infoboxes is needed. The only time I've seen them used is people who've played 2 sports, or 1 sport and something else e.g. Imran Khan. There's many ways to combine infoboxes, one is to have the first infobox, then --, then second infobox- this puts a line between the 2 infoboxes. Joseph2302 (talk) 18:43, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Infobox museum has an  parameter but Infobox organization has no   or  parameter so it appears the two infoboxes cannot be combined. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:48, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

Too much depth template?
This is oddly a question that I've never had to ask in 10 years on Wikipedia. Is there a template for "Too much depth". I'm looking at History of Scouting in the Philippines and having problems getting the author to understand that much of this (like the bios) is too much depth for Wikipedia. I welcome a page on the History of Scouting in the Philippines, but there is enough there for 4 or 5 articles and I'm not sure all of it is suitable. I'm really not trying to frighten this user away and I'd like to see their entire effort off-wikipedia, much of it is wonderful... (I've already asked on WP:SCOUT but haven't gotten a response) Ideas?Naraht (talk) 15:15, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Overly detailed, perhaps, or Very long? -- John of Reading (talk) 15:25, 20 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Put in both, Overly detailed is probably more appropriate...Naraht (talk) 17:29, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

Bangladesh Green Building Council
Where is the page Bangladesh Green Building Council? It does not have a delete log or justification of why or who deleted it? It had citations from reliable sources in government and media, and was yet deleted? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.94.6.124 (talk) 17:22, 20 May 2016 (UTC)


 * If you click on the red link which you kindly provided, you'll see the entry in the deletion log. --David Biddulph (talk) 17:25, 20 May 2016 (UTC)


 * ... and the speedy deletion tagging was explained at User talk:GIZarch. --David Biddulph (talk) 17:28, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

Article revisions getting reverted
Hello! I'm attempting to make additions to the Fallon Worldwide page, however, my two attempts have been unsuccessful. I would be grateful to anyone that could help me edit the page without it getting reverted.

Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nickmastodon1 (talk • contribs)


 * It looks like the major issue with your additions is that you aren't doing references in the manner that wikipedia articles are standardized on. References in Wikipedia look sort of like The sky is green. . You may want to go to WP:REFERENCES or go on the "Wikipedia Adventure" which can be accessed from links which have been placed on your talk page.Naraht (talk) 21:23, 20 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Additionally, passages like Fallon Worldwide is a Minneapolis-based, full-service global advertising agency founded in 1981 by five visionaries seeking to dispel the perception of the Midwest ad community as a geographically bound rural outpost. The “little experiment out in the prairie” transformed Minneapolis into a nationally respected creative hub, proving that creativity has no geographic boundaries. are unacceptable for an encyclopedia entry. We are not here to promote any brand or organization. You might want to read up on What Wikipedia is not,  WP:COI and WP:NPOV.  Dismas |(talk) 21:37, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

hey
I have created an article draft. I want someone to review the same before I make a final submission of my draft. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shehnaz17 (talk • contribs) 22:15, 20 May 2016 (UTC)


 * So, click on the blue "Submit your draft for review" button. There's nothing saying that it can only be done once. You'll have opportunities to improve it if possible. Dismas |(talk) 22:28, 20 May 2016 (UTC
 * If the draft in question is Draft:Doon Consulting Privated Limited, it was declined primarily for tone reasons, because it contains peacock language written from the standpoint of the founder of the company. Please review and revise the wording of the draft and resubmit it.  Robert McClenon (talk) 01:03, 21 May 2016 (UTC)

Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge
In section called Early life, the link on the words " private school " should be "Independant school (United Kingdom)" please fix - we are unable to do so thanks so muchSrbernadette (talk) 23:53, 20 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Someone already fixed this. And you are able to do that. You'd just rather have us do it. Please see WP:PIPEDLINK.  Dismas |(talk) 00:46, 21 May 2016 (UTC)

I am sorry if I annoyed you all. I see now that on my phone the corrected link as mentioned above has not yet taken place. Hence our confusion. In fact, only on my phone, up the top of the article it still says "pending changes". However, on this tablet that from the college, that I am using now, there iis no "pending changes" at the top of the article and the "private school" link goes - correctly - to " independent schools( United Kingdom) ". We do not understand why two different sources work like this. Are you able to explain. Again, please do not think that we are "using" you and too lazy to edit ourselves. We try very hard to get everything right. Please explain why the phone comes up with " pending changes". But this tablet doe not. Thanks again and sorry101.189.0.102 (talk) 01:22, 21 May 2016 (UTC)


 * See my answer above in one of the other sections titled "Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge" regarding the cache on your device. That is the first and most likely reason that comes to my mind as to why your phone shows one version and your tablet another.
 * Additionally, you've been asked before not to title several sections on this help desk with the same title. We now have three sections titled "Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge". I don't understand why you insist on bothering people by doing what you've been asked not to do. Dismas |(talk) 02:01, 21 May 2016 (UTC)