Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2016 May 31

= May 31 =

Roger Lupton
Please help. Citation number 13. I have used the wrong template - the incorrect date beside the author's name is all wrong. The article was RETREIVED today - not WRITTEN by Christopher Wilson  today. Please keep in quote. Please fix if you are able Thanks Srbernadette (talk) 00:26, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Fixed in [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Roger_Lupton&diff=722934631&oldid=722932315] with the  parameter. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:42, 31 May 2016 (UTC)

Phillip Lynch
Thanks in advance. I am a tired editor and ref number 7 on the above page has not worked out. Please fix sorry Srbernadette (talk) 01:01, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Fixed in [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Phillip_Lynch&diff=722938539&oldid=722936769]. An access date in the future gives an error message. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:14, 31 May 2016 (UTC)

Emmanuel College, Warrnambool
Ref number 1 is wrong - and I don not know why. please help again and I will stay off editing for a while. Sorry Srbernadette (talk) 01:08, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Fixed in [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Emmanuel_College,_Warrnambool&diff=722938989&oldid=722937796]. Year 20166 gave an error message. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:18, 31 May 2016 (UTC)

changing languages
Hello, I usually use wikipedia to the translation of a specific term. I used to click on "read this article in another language". I no longer find this option. Can you help me? Titiaflamme (talk) 01:47, 31 May 2016 (UTC) titiaflamme
 * If you look on the left side of this page there is long list of other language versions. This should appear on a lot, but not all, articles as well. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 09:38, 31 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Hello, . I wonder if you are talking about the Wikipedia app? I've a feeling that used to say "Read this article in another language". If so, I find on the Android app it's in the top right (three dots) menu, called "Change language". --ColinFine (talk) 15:12, 31 May 2016 (UTC)

How to create a wiki page
Hello everyone: can anyone give me step by set instructions on how to create a page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Deannabombchica (talk • contribs) 02:11, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Assuming you want to create an article, see Your first article. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:20, 31 May 2016 (UTC)

Phillip Lynch
Ref number 1 is wrong. I failed with my "cut and paste". I need to sleep. Sorry - please fix.Srbernadette (talk) 02:52, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
 * ✅. Maproom (talk) 06:46, 31 May 2016 (UTC)

Bot archive loss
It seems a bot-created archive got lost due to some wrong coding on Talk:Brainwashed (George Harrison album). As you can see here, the talkpage consisted of three entries (one of them actually a factual question regarding the article from 2006 that never got answered) when the bot came rolling around with this edit in 2013. The result is that the talkpage is empty now (except for the Beatle box at the top and a new bot entry from 2016), and the archive link is red, pointing at nothing. --79.242.222.168 (talk) 04:39, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I don't think is actually a bot, it looks like this was an attempt at manually archiving these entries.  Give me a few minutes to patch this up.  Rwessel (talk) 05:19, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
 * ✅ Feel free to review what I've done. FWIW, it was probably not worth archiving those three entries, but...  Rwessel (talk) 05:29, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Could a bot be written that checks for red archive links and reports them to you clever coding peeps? --79.242.222.168 (talk) 06:20, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm not quite sure how a bot would detect all redlinks to archive pages, although a stab at some common patterns doesn't seem impossible. I think there's a way to list all redlinks (see, for example, Special:WantedPages), and you might just be able to search such a list for anything with "/archive" in the name.  You might consider proposing this at Village pump (proposals).  Rwessel (talk) 06:30, 31 May 2016 (UTC)

James Bryce, 1st Viscount Bryce
In the "academic section" of this article, the "citation needed" is incorrect. The reference to Bryce's short career in the legal world is indeed in reference number 4.

May I suggest that you please remove the "citation needed" clause. Thanks Srbernadette (talk) 04:58, 31 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Source #4 does mention that, and I've replaced the ((cn)) with a named reference to that source. But I have my doubts as to the reliability of that source.  Rwessel (talk) 05:38, 31 May 2016 (UTC)

Phillip Lynch
Ref number 1 is wrong. I failed with my "cut and paste". I need to sleep. Sorry - please fix. Srbernadette (talk) 06:00, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
 * ✅ already – duplicate of earlier request. Maproom (talk) 06:48, 31 May 2016 (UTC)

View another user's sandbox?
Is there a way to view another user's sandbox? Does this require a user to share his or her sandbox somehow? — Preceding unsigned comment added by AugusteBlanqui (talk • contribs) 08:19, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes, there is a way. And no special actions are needed. You just need to know (or guess, or investigate) what the name of the sandbox is. For example if you go to the search box and type User:CiaPan/ the box will expand a drop-list suggesting three existing pages:
 * User:CiaPan/sandbox
 * User:CiaPan/Sandbox
 * User:CiaPan/example of autoextending table cell
 * You can accept any of them and see my sandbox pages. --CiaPan (talk) 08:34, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
 * You can also click on the user contributions link and scroll to the bottom of the page. There you will see a link to "subpages" which will show you all the pages in a users space. Try it on the last link (Sunasuttu) in my signature. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 09:35, 31 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Almost nothing on Wikipedia (actually the whole of the WMF servers) is hidden or private - the major exception is the actively running server software code, that must obviously be protected so that the various WMF websites can actually run. Certain types of content is hidden or deleted, usually for legal reasons. This page has the basics of when why and how certain content is removed. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 10:39, 31 May 2016 (UTC)

Articles about what?
A long time ago there was a listing of topics wiki articles were wanted about, but I cannot find it. Thanks! 76.67.82.88 (talk) 13:22, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Requested articles or Most-wanted articles? PrimeHunter (talk) 13:25, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
 * And while you're at it, you might want to give a dekko to Special:WantedPages. Has some interesting pages too. Xender Lourdes (talk) 15:30, 31 May 2016 (UTC)

Saving your latest version
How do you save your latest version of draft article? I keep saving it but when I do preview, it says I haven't saved the latest version and when I login, the contributions and history, show an earlier version? I want to submit the latest for review. Pls. help — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hedybaker (talk • contribs) 16:09, 31 May 2016 (UTC)


 * , when you are editing the article, you should see three buttons under the edit box, Save Page, Show Preview, and Show Changes. Show Preview will show you a preview of what the article will look like once you hit Save Page. It sounds like you're previewing but never saving. Dismas |(talk) 17:29, 31 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Or perhaps saving without a edit summary. MB (talk) 17:38, 31 May 2016 (UTC)

converting links
I,m an active wikipedian on urdu and english wiki i mostly translate pages from eng to urdu wiki so i have to to copy articles and then paste on urdu wiki ,when i paste eng link ,so it will convert into red link,Now my question is that is there any shortcut that i can convert these link into existing relative urdu articles with out wasting time in searching then again copy paste.--Baltistani (talk) 17:12, 31 May 2016 (UTC)-
 * Hello, . You will sometimes be able to avoid having to search, by going to the referenced English article, and seeing if it already has an Interwiki link to an Urdu article; but I don't think there's any shortcut to finding that and replacing the text. And where the article isn't already linked to an Urdu article, I don't think there's anything you can do but search. --ColinFine (talk) 18:48, 31 May 2016 (UTC)

3rd battalion 4th marines
I am trying to contact someone regarding the page written about 3rd battalion 4th marines. There is a marine from 3/4 that is a Silver Star, Purple Heart and multiple NAM with V recipient. How can we get him added to the notable marines from 3/4? Thanks very much. That Marine is Wyatt Waldron — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.77.229.5 (talk) 17:44, 31 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Hello, IP user. Wikipedia doesn't work like most resources you're probably familiar with: anybody can edit an article. But "notable" has a special meaning in Wikipedia: it doesn't mean famous, or important, or influential, or heroic, or popular or anything like that. It means simply "there has been enough material published about this person to write a well-sourced article about them"; because Wikipedia articles are required to be based entirely on published material, so that a reader can in principle always check the information in an article. If you can find such sources, then there could be an article on this person, and you may add them to the article in question - or you could suggest it on the talk page of the article. Alternatively, you could ask for assistance at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Military history. But if there are not suitable published sources for that person, then I'm afraid Wikipedia will not take note of them and they can't be added to the article. --ColinFine (talk) 18:57, 31 May 2016 (UTC)

omission of Sunderland UK on your latitudes of cities site
Shame on Wikipedia. The largest city on the east coast of England that is: Sunderland was not even mentioned on your Latitudes of Cities. Shame on you Wikipedia. Karma. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sunderlandian (talk • contribs) 19:05, 31 May 2016 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure what you're referring to? Either way, Wikipedia is a Wiki, which means anyone can add that information --  samtar talk or stalk 19:08, 31 May 2016 (UTC)


 * I have added Sunderland to List of cities by latitude. Is that the page you were referring to? Maproom (talk) 19:47, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
 * England is strongly overrepresented there with 30 cities. Including a small city like Sunderland seems like systemic bias. Many 5-10 times as large cities in other countries are omitted. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:57, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
 * The lead of List of cities by latitude refers to "all cities". This misled me. Maproom (talk) 07:54, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

WRONG TITLE
Hello, I just wanted to communicate that there is wrong title in one of the article of Wikipedia.

Beant Singh (assassin)

Beant Singh was not an assassin he was a FREEDOM FIGHTER. He killed Indira because she attacked their Golden Temple without any reason so consequently she was executed. It does not make any sense to describe a Freedom Fighter as an assassin it is RIDICULOUS!!. The scope of the website is to give any type of information to there reader, but not the fake one.

So kindly I am asking to change the wrong title in the correct one

Caspio19 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Caspio19 (talk • contribs) 19:35, 31 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Hi - it appears this person took part in an assassination, and (from a quick search) we don't have any articles on people with "(Freedom fighter)" appended, possibly due to the connotations the phrase holds? I can understand your frustration, and agree somewhat that an involvement in an assassination only tentativly makes someone an "assassin" - perhaps something like "activist"? This would be a discussion ideally suited on the article's talk page --  samtar talk or stalk 20:00, 31 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia refers to subjects using the words that are most often applied to them. I have examined all the citations in the article Beant_Singh_(assassin). Of those which I have been able to check, I find six use the word "assassin" or "assassination", two use "killer" or "killing", one uses "martyrdom", and none use "freedom fighter". So the current title is appropriate. Maproom (talk) 20:01, 31 May 2016 (UTC)

Lymans S. Ayres II article
The first name should be Lyman NOT Lymans - a typing error when the article was created added the extra "s". Could someone go in there and correct it, please? Thanks, Rosalina523 (talk) 21:39, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Done. Clarityfiend (talk) 21:45, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Many Thanks, much better now. Rosalina523 (talk) 20:54, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

Submitted draft
Hi,

I have submitted my first article for review (after two rejects). Since the submission date I have made minor changes and added a photo. My question is every time I make a change does my article go back to the end of the queue?

Thanks,

JohnFlashpepi (talk) 23:50, 31 May 2016 (UTC)


 * No. Dismas |(talk) 00:08, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for the quick answer.

JohnFlashpepi (talk) 00:27, 1 June 2016 (UTC)