Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2016 November 10

= November 10 =

Changing username
Hi, I've seen references to changing usernames on Wikipedia. If possible, I'd like to make a minor change to my username, change Icebob99 to icebob99, thus removing the first letter capitalization. I created my account months before I actually started editing Wikipedia, and my browser for some reason would not let me have the first letter lowercase. Anyhow, before I make this change, I'd like to ask a few questions: is it acceptable to change one's username for a reason such as that? Is it relatively effortless or will I have to migrate things over to a new userpage? Is there any penalty for changing a username? Is there anything else I should know? Thanks, Icebob99 (talk) 01:22, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Changing usernames is generally possible, and can be done without manually messing with your userpage. See WP:CHU. However, usernames cannot begin with a lowercase letter for technical reasons. The closest you can do is too add lowercase to your userpage and change your signature. P p p er y 01:30, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Well then, I think I'll just keep everything consistent. Good to know, though. Thanks, Icebob99 (talk) 01:36, 10 November 2016 (UTC)

Renaming a page
Hi, is it possible to rename a page? I'm destubbing People's National Assembly, and I noticed that on the CIA World Factbook (link) and other reliable sources that it is referred to as the National People's Assembly. Obviously, it would be a good idea for the page name to correspond to that precedent. Is it possible to rename? Thanks, Icebob99 (talk) 01:41, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Symbol move vote.svg In Wikipedia, a page can usually be renamed if the existing title is incorrect; this is called moving a page. A page may also be moved to another namespace without changing the base title—for example, a userspace draft may be moved to article space. Autoconfirmed rights are required for page moving but you may request a page move at Requested moves if you are not yet autoconfirmed, there is a technical barrier to the move, or the retitling is expected to be controversial and you seek consensus for the name change. For details, see Help:How to move a page.  P p p er y 01:46, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
 * thanks for the second answer! I found another reliable source which does indeed call the assembly the People's National Assembly, so I think that a redirect from Natoinal People's Assembly would best clear up the confusion. I think I can figure that out, though. Thanks again, Icebob99 (talk) 01:51, 10 November 2016 (UTC)

clan calder
The christian name Muriel is spelled correctly as shown in the first reference in your article on Clan Calder. Thereafter in subsequent references it is spelled incorrectly as Murial. Please amend. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.111.194.194 (talk) 08:12, 10 November 2016 (UTC)

The Wikipedia community encourages you to be bold in updating pages. Don't worry too much about making honest mistakes—they're likely to be found and corrected quickly. If you're not sure how editing works, check out how to edit a page, or use the sandbox to try out your editing skills. New contributors are always welcome. You don't even need to log in (although there are many reasons you might want to). --David Biddulph (talk) 10:06, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Information.svg Thank you for your suggestion&#32;regarding Clan Calder. When you believe an article needs improvement, please feel free to make those changes. Wikipedia is a wiki, so anyone can edit almost any article by simply following the edit this page link at the top.

Grammar error in Picture of the Day
I know there is a nomination and review procedure for the Picture of the Day, and I suspect that it entails reviewing the image for its quality, but today's Picture of the Day (POTD/2016-11-10) includes a horrible grammar error in the description of the picture:
 * Ochre tinted with olive-green in colour...

should be
 * Olive-green in colour with an ochre tint

Such a glaring error on Wikipedia's main page is inexcusable, but I have no idea how to fix it. Any suggestions? WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 13:30, 10 November 2016 (UTC)


 * , if you click on the Talk page link for the Main page, there is a link near the top to Main Page/Errors which is where this should be pointed out. The main page, like any other page, has a talk page which I've found many people don't realize. † dismas †|(talk) 13:38, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
 * The description was copied from Leotia lubrica where it has been since 2011.[//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Leotia_lubrica&diff=437684638&oldid=prev] PrimeHunter (talk) 13:49, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Mumble, mumble, it's awkward and unclear, but there's nothing wrong with the grammar. --ColinFine (talk) 15:15, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Mumble, grumble; OK, so technically, it's correct, but I consider any sentence whose meaning is unclear to be grammatically incorrect as a part of grammar should be to make one's meaning as clear as possible. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 17:03, 10 November 2016 (UTC)

Issue has been resolved through cross-posting to Main Page/Errors. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 17:05, 10 November 2016 (UTC)

AFB game box
Is there a way to force the AFB game box to be on the left? In the pages I have just edited, it looks so odd and out of position on the right.

Thanks Nick Beeson (talk) 13:47, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
 * It's floated right by . There is no parameter to change this but you could enclose the whole call (including associated templates) in  . PrimeHunter (talk) 14:07, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks PrimeHunter. It looks so much better. Compare how the first two games look. Nick Beeson (talk) 14:16, 10 November 2016 (UTC)

Youtube citation
I'm working on a wikipedia article on a youtuber and i'm wondering how can I citate his youtube channel if that's where i got information like the number of subscribers he has.
 * , you can take a look at WP:REFB for how to quote sources.
 * However, while quoting youtube (or similar non-reliable sources) is okay for non-controversial information (e.g. the number of subscribers, the address of a company, etc.), it is definitely not okay for controversial information or to support notability.
 * I suppose you are talking about User:Thelmadatter/Chumel_Torres, which probably passes notability tests. I would suggest to add this and that link to the references. (I can do it for you if you want.)
 * Finally, please sign your posts by placing ~ at the end. Tigraan Click here to contact me 18:26, 10 November 2016 (UTC)

Default Image
Trying to figure out how I can select which image on the page will be the default (landing) image. On the page Stuart Williamson I want the artist (first image on the page) to be the default image but when, for example, I search Stuart Williamson on my Android phone web browser (cache cleared), the Wiki article shows the Shirly MacLain thumbnail instead of the artist with Walt Whitman thumbnail. Any help much appreciated. --6BravosToros (talk) 19:44, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
 * The image is chosen automatically by mw:Extension:PageImages. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:57, 10 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Convenience link. † dismas †|(talk) 19:58, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Convenience link. † dismas †|(talk) 19:58, 10 November 2016 (UTC)

Does Trump's win belong among the events of November 8 or of November 9? Or of both?
Election Day in the U.S. was on November 8 but the Associated Press and whatnot did not declare he had won until early the next morning (3:00 AM EST / 12:00 AM PST, according to the article). For what it's worth, as a resident of the U.S., I can tell you that November 9 felt like a momentous (and calamitous) day; November 8 did not. So on which of the two Wiki day-of-the-year articles does it belong? It's currently on both. I'll add that I deleted one mention of it from November 9 but it was added again today. (In fact, one user account added a very brief mention of it, then just three minutes later, a different user account rewrote and greatly expanded it, leading me to suspect the two accounts are used by the same editor.)

Thanks in advance. --Dyspeptic skeptic (talk) 20:37, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
 * The day of the vote, without question. Back in pre-telegraph days, it could be a matter of days or even weeks after an election before winners were known, especially in larger countries like the US; adopting "day the result became known" rather than "day of the vote" as the date we list an election would cause mayhem. &#8209; Iridescent 20:55, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
 * O.K., I've removed it from November 9. If it gets added again, should I do something besides remove it again? --Dyspeptic skeptic (talk) 07:00, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

Transclusion
I've been reviewing Walt McDougall for Good Article criteria. All of my review comments are here: Talk:Walt McDougall/GA1, and I believe they are supposed to be transcluded here Talk:Walt McDougall. Is there a reason it isn't transcluding? Margalob (talk) 22:42, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Just a small matter of WP:PURGE. -- The Voidwalker  Whispers 22:44, 10 November 2016 (UTC)