Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2016 November 2

= November 2 =

IP Address
When I edited my own page, I didn't realize that my browser had booted me out. Is there a way to delete my IP address from the edit history? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Galaxythunderwolf (talk • contribs) 02:00, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm not seeing any edits to either your user page or user talk page that was made using an IP address. Are you sure you made the edits?  Fei noh a   Talk 02:03, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

Not on my own page, an article I had been working on. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Galaxythunderwolf (talk • contribs) 02:06, 2 November 2016 (UTC)


 * I think this may refer to . Eagleash (talk) 02:09, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
 * I think I remember (unless my mind is playing tricks on me in which case I'm sorry) such a policy that allowed administrators (which I am not one) to remove the edit if a user accidentally edits while logged out. Perhaps you should try asking an admin?  Fei noh a   Talk 02:14, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

Where can I find the admin? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Galaxythunderwolf (talk • contribs) 02:22, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Any of the people listed here is an admin. Although if you're looking for an admin right now I would probably try either asking either User:Materialscientist or User:Oshwah.  Fei noh a   Talk 02:34, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
 * The IP address is hidden now. See Requests for oversight for another time. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:36, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
 * I have OS'd the IP address. Ks0stm  (T•C•G•E) 02:41, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Awesome responses, everyone! Thank you for OS'ing, Ks0stm! :-D  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   03:52, 2 November 2016 (UTC)


 * But please remember that it is not your own page, ! --ColinFine (talk) 09:23, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

Explore topics from different sections
Hi,

I am not new but still an amateur in using Wikipedia. There are many topics, many happenings around the world. Some are focussed on the Main Page. But I would like to explore more and see all of it. Please provide some valuable tips for the same.

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.253.55.99 (talk) 04:06, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Hello Contents/Portals, Featured content and Current events are great places you can begin with, to explore Wikipedia's topics further. Come back if you need further guidance. Enjoy your exploration. Lourdes  06:35, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

Family of Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge
There is a strange mark immediately after reference number 5 on this page - is it a comma and should it be there? 139.216.210.155 (talk) 04:31, 2 November 2016 (UTC)  Thanks
 * [[Image:Crystal_Clear_app_utilities.png|20px]] Thank you for your suggestion&#32;regarding Family of Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge. When you feel an article needs improvement, please feel free to make those changes. Wikipedia is a wiki, so anyone can edit almost any article by simply following the  link at the top. The Wikipedia community encourages you to be bold in updating pages. Don't worry too much about making honest mistakes — they're likely to be found and corrected quickly. In this particular case, as you seem to be a regular editor who has a penchant for logging out and posting requests at Help Desk on mundane issues, I would suggest that rather than requesting Help Desk volunteers for such mistakes, please undertake the same yourself (in other words, please feel free to remove the comma after the reference no. 5 yourself). Such editing would ensure that the time of Help Desk volunteers is not spent in assisting simplistic issues. Thank you for understanding.  Lourdes  06:43, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

Please help - I think the strange comma should be removed but I will not be able to do it on a mobile phone. My students r not here to help. Thanks 101.182.180.24 (talk) 07:44, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
 * The comma comes from the comma after the first  in the second paragraph of the section. So removing that comma is how you remove the comma after the footnote reference. —teb728 t c 08:01, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
 * I see a bot did it for you. That is unfortunate, for it deprived you of a learning opportunity. —teb728 t c 08:09, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

Creating page Clickexcel.com on wikipedia but shows that url is blacklisted
Creating page Clickexcel.com on wikipedia but shows that url is blacklisted, can some one help me to creating our company page — Preceding unsigned comment added by Swatikdm (talk • contribs) 10:51, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
 * User is blocked for spam/advertising.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:46, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

Incoming links resolver for non-disambiguation page?
Is this possible? Sometimes an article gets deleted and incoming links need to be disambiguated or removed, even though there is no need for a disambiguation page at the page. An example of this is Constituent country, where links need to be removed or directed to: Country, Countries of the United Kingdom, Countries of the Kingdom of the Netherlands, Countries of the Kingdom of Denmark, Overseas country of France. In most cases it isn't a simply case of piping to the new page. Most link are setup like "Scotland is a constituent country of the United Kingdom" so would need to be changed to "Scotland is a constituent country of the United Kingdom". I am looking for a way to quickly go through each link similar to Dab solver or DisamAssist. When I try to use Dab solver it doesn't seem to work (http://dispenser.homenet.org/~dispenser/view/Dab_solver). I could possibly make the page a disambiguation page temporarily while I fix the links? Rob984 (talk) 15:04, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
 * HI . Try AWB. Lourdes  15:56, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

How to fix this page
I ran across Tina Beattie as I was copyediting references: fixing bare links and resolving ibids, etc. As I worked on this page, it struck me that it is essentially an advertisement for Ms Beattie. Eleven of 13 references are written by her and there is an extensive list of all her writings. I am willing to edit this page, but I would appreciate some others' opinion on what should stay and what should go. Thanks. Leschnei (talk) 18:10, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
 * It should significantly be shortened, in my opinion. Ruslik_ Zero 19:54, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

Two questions related to draft space in other languages
I recently received two emails from Wikimedia from different people but with related questions.

First, is the draft space an English Wikipedia only concept, or does it exist in other languages (in particular, Bulgarian)? If it exist in some, but not all, is there a comprehensive list so I can respond to the person asking?

Second, an editor created a draft in the English Wikipedia:Draft:Desenvolvimento curricular Which should have been created in the Portuguese Wikipedia. They are requesting that it simply be moved over but I'm not sure that there is such a process. If there is such a process can someone tell me how, or do it for me, or confirm that there is not in which case my advice is they should in the Portuguese Wikipedia (possibly in draft space depending on the answer to the first question)-- S Philbrick (Talk)  18:18, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
 * As a partial answer, WP:Drafts has versions in 9 other languages, not including Bulgarian or Portuguese. The list of namespaces in the Bulgarian and Portuguese versions of WP:Namespace do not seem to include one for Drafts. —teb728 t c 19:25, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Another partial answer: WP:AFC has a Portuguese version. —teb728 t c 19:31, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
 * As for importing pages into another wiki, I think that Help:Import is about that. —teb728 t c 19:41, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I have responded to both.-- S Philbrick (Talk)  23:28, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

Templates about video games (Agatha Christie and Sherlock Holmes)
I edited Agatha Christie video games and Sherlock Holmes video games adding a lot of games that were not included in those templates. Nevertheless, I was forced to remove all red links/black lines, because they're discouraged by Wikipedia guidelines (but compare this: Mondelez). I have a question: some games have an article but it is only a subsection of the article about the novel they were inspired by: for example 4.50 from Paddington, Dead Man's Folly, Death on the Nile, Peril at End House, and The Hound of the Baskervilles. Could they be included in the template or should they have a larger section or a separate article?--Carnby (talk) 18:22, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Redirects are common in navigational boxes. So, the answer is yes. Ruslik_ Zero 19:50, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

For scientific software, does citation count establish notability?
I have recently improved the article ARTS (radiative transfer code). Its mention in books is scarce; one book lists it in a table, another described it for half a page. However, it has also been used in more than 150 peer-reviewed publications, including increasingly many where none of the developers are directly involved. Does that constitute sufficient notability for having its own Wikipedia article? Note that if ARTS fails, I suspect many of the models linked from Atmospheric radiative transfer codes will suffer the same fate, and it would be worth to gather the information in a larger article to avoid the destruction of hard work. --Gerrit CUTEDH 19:12, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
 * My sense would be "no", we'd need some information on the software to write an article, not merely that people use it. Half a page may be sufficiently long depending on what the source is like, but more than one source is necessary. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 19:20, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
 * When you say "150 peer-reviewed publications" how much is about it? Does it just say it was used (a mention) or does it discuss what it is and does?  RJFJR (talk) 20:16, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Hello . I see that http://radiativetransfer.org/docs/ has a subsection 'Articles' which says "A general description of ARTS can be found in the following articles" and then lists two references: Eriksson et al (2011) and Buehler et al (2005).  Can you not use these to establish notability?  Best wishes.  RobbieIanMorrison (talk) 07:46, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Hello . Those articles are not independent but written by the two main authors of the software.  Isn't that a problem for establishing notability? --Gerrit CUTEDH 13:13, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Hello . It varies.  Many describe research done using ARTS, and therefore do describe it somewhat.  Some others compare ARTS to other models.  --Gerrit CUTEDH 13:15, 3 November 2016 (UTC)

Family of Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge
I have mad a big mistake with ref number 7 on this page - bad eyesight tonight. Please leave in quote as we think it important. Please fix Thankyou101.182.180.24 (talk) 20:54, 2 November 2016 (UTC)


 * If you read the text in red, it tells you exactly how to fix it. You've used quote: instead of quote=, and also need to fix the access-date. Joseph2302 21:15, 2 November 2016 (UTC)


 * It's useless to tell him/her how to fix it. They never learn from what we tell them. † Dismas †|(talk) 21:33, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

I have fixed both errors myself. Thanks so much for your advice. Srbernadette (talk) 21:45, 2 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Well done! While you're there, you might want to take the date out of the   parameter and put it in the   parameter. --David Biddulph (talk) 22:27, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

Computer model names and uppercasing
I would like some guidance on the use of casing when describing the name of a computer model. The case in point concerns the Markal model article, about an energy model almost always written as MARKAL in academic literature. Under MOS:TMRULES, the correct setting would be Markal, but this is not a trade-mark. The POLES article, another energy model, uses POLES throughout, as does ACEGES with ACEGES. I am tempted to do likewise for the MARKAL article, but wanted to check in first. I would also like to rename the page to MARKAL, usage which does not seem (on my reading) to either conflict with or be supported by WP:TITLE. Any advice on casing gratefully received. PS: this question was originally posted at but received no replies. Best wishes. RobbieIanMorrison (talk) 23:09, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
 * MOS:CAPSACRS says to use the all-caps version when it is the WP:COMMONNAME one. From what you wrote, it seems to be the case. In case you need help to move the page, the manual is this way. Tigraan Click here to contact me 08:54, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
 * ✅ Hello . Many thanks for your reply.  That answers my question.  I should be able to move the page without difficulty.  Best wishes.  RobbieIanMorrison (talk) 09:10, 3 November 2016 (UTC)