Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2016 November 21

= November 21 =

Rfc on upgrading the NAC essay to a guideline
Interested editors can comment on the Deletion process talk page. Thanks. Lourdes 05:39, 21 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Did you see the notice at the top of this page: This page is only for questions about how to use or edit Wikipedia.? Your RfC has been listed at Requests for comment along with all the others Noyster (talk),  11:20, 21 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi, do please try and ping me if you reply as otherwise I miss the replies (as I almost did this). As I contribute considerably to the Help Desk and help editors out here, the message was left for the regulars who frequent this desk like me. I've recently noticed your contributions at the Help Desk and would like to thank you for giving your time in clarifying queries of editors here. There are times when I notice that questions go unanswered simply because I or the other regulars don't have the time. That's why it is heartening to see other editors chip in and do their bit. Coming back to your note, If you feel my post is a misuse of this page, do please remove this post (or any future post from me that you feel is out of order; no issues in that with me; just leave a note whenever you do that). Thanks. Lourdes  11:05, 23 November 2016 (UTC)

Immaculate Heart High School (Los Angeles)
I have added a photo but have failed trying to place it higher up the page. Please help if able thanks 101.182.180.24 (talk) 09:45, 21 November 2016 (UTC)
 * ✅ - moved image into infobox - Arjayay (talk) 09:52, 21 November 2016 (UTC)

Restore Picture file
Hi, following this Deletion request on Commons, the file corresponding to File:AsimovOnThrone.png was deleted, as Commons does not accept (anymore) the GDFL-IS licence tag. Could the original file be restored here? Where have I to ask for? Thanks. --Harlock81 (talk) 12:20, 21 November 2016 (UTC)

Indian - NOT NATIVE AMERICAN.
Please stop referring to us as NATIVE AMERICANS. That is PC we are Indians. In my case, an Indian of the Porch Band of Creek Indians.

We had OUR COUNTRY (NOT AMERICA) when it was taken from us, but we are still INDIANS and proud of our name and HERITAGE. Just like African-Americans is only true if they have dual citizenship.

PLEASE stop this politically correct crap. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.20.68.128 (talk) 14:38, 21 November 2016 (UTC)


 * This is being discussed at Talk:Native Americans in the United States. The term Indian has a variety of meanings in different parts of the world.    D b f i r s   14:47, 21 November 2016 (UTC)


 * are you sure that is the correct talk page link? I can't find a current discussion and the most recent post is Oct 2nd. Apologies if I have missed something. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 14:55, 21 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Sorry, perhaps I should have written "has been discussed". I've made the link more specific.   D b f i r s   15:02, 21 November 2016 (UTC)


 * We have an article Native American name controversy.   D b f i r s   15:09, 21 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Thank you for clearing that up . Much appreciated. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 15:23, 21 November 2016 (UTC)

Noae Naganuma
Why do my Bold and large font headings disappear in the submitted document? How can I construct them properly in the draft?

ArborgateAborgate (talk) 15:36, 21 November 2016 (UTC)


 * The section headers in Draft:Naoe Naganuma seem to me to be correctly formatted. Maproom (talk) 16:27, 21 November 2016 (UTC)
 * The section headings look fine to me too. † dismas †|(talk) 19:28, 21 November 2016 (UTC)

Portimonense S.C.
Yesterday I made a merge from the article Portimonense S.C. (football) (which had a sizeable amount of information about Portimonense's association football team) to the article Portimonense S.C. (which was about the club in its entirety, but was extremely small, defeating the purpose of its separate existence). It happens that I am not very experienced at doing these moves and I failed to move the talk page in the process and I can't do the talk page move manually. Is it possible to move it separately or do I have to undo what I did and try again? Thanks in advance. The Replicator (talk) 20:47, 21 November 2016 (UTC)
 * You can't move the talk page because the page you are trying to move it to has more than one revision. I've requested the move be done at WP:RM/TR, where you can request noncontroversial moves you cannot make yourself in the future. P p p er y 21:33, 21 November 2016 (UTC)

Xerxes date range
Just wanted to let you know that the date of Xerxes 1 reign is backwards on the photo of him it says he reigned from 486bc to 465bc — Preceding unsigned comment added by Spidertig (talk • contribs) 22:57, 21 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your interest, . If you have points to discuss about the contents of a particular article, that article's talk page is the best place to discuss it - here Talk:Xerxes I. However, in this case, there is nothing to discuss, as the dates are the right way round. 486 BC was before 465 BC! . --ColinFine (talk) 23:06, 21 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Dear Spidertig, regardless of where you ask the question, it could have easily been answered here to help you better understand the chronology of time: BC (before Christ) and AD (anno Domini). Years progressing after the birth year of Jesus in the Julian and Gregorian calendars count forward 1 to 2017. However, since no one knows when time actually began, the counting of years progresses in reverse; mirroring the extension in the opposite direction: i.e. 2016 AD is the same as 2016 BC in opposition. However, since time moves forward, if you were born in 486bc and lived for 21 years, you would have died in the year 465bc (in the Julian and Gregorian calendar years). But if you died in 2AD and lived 21 years, you would have died in the year 23AD. Does this make any sense? I hope so. (I hope I got it right, myself!) Maineartists (talk) 23:41, 21 November 2016 (UTC)

Viewing the history of Exurb before it was moved/merged
Is it possible to see see the edit history of Exurb? The talkpage is accessible, but the main page gets redirected to Commuter town. In 2007, Exurb was merged and moved to Commuter town.(diff) Usually there's an infobox on the talkpage with a link the edit histories of pages that were merged, but I don't know how else to find it when that link isn't on the talkpage. Thanks! —PermStrump ( talk )  23:10, 21 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes, it is. If you go to the page exurb, then scroll up to the top and click on the small link where it says (redirected from ), that will take you to the redirect page, where you can click the "view history" link as usual. P p p er y 23:15, 21 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Woah. I never knew that! This will surely come in handy in the future too... Thank you! :) —PermStrump  ( talk )  02:23, 22 November 2016 (UTC)

Great Zimbabwe origins
Oral traditions have been accepted facts for many historians. Great Zimbabwe is not exception: according to oral traditions of the Dziva Hungwe clan (royal priests of the city), King Soro Rezhou (of the elephant clan) began to build the city of stone cirica 2200 A.D. The dry masonry of the city is replicated in the local construction of traditional buildings. It is no surprise that the highest math scores on the O and A level exams and the highest percentage of engineering students in Zimbabwe come from Chivi, Zaka and Gutu Districts: the builders of Dzimbabwe. Not only have I spent six years in rural Zimbabwe, I also drew commentary from Dzimbahwe : life and politics in the golden age 1100-1500 A. D by Prof. Kenneth Mufuka.(1983)

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.84.168.47 (talk • contribs) 23:50, 21 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Why does this matter? P p p er y 00:00, 22 November 2016 (UTC)
 * I don't think you meant 2200 A.D. Rojomoke (talk) 06:28, 22 November 2016 (UTC)
 * @Rojomoke, he has a very high math score :-) --AboutFace 22 (talk) 21:42, 25 November 2016 (UTC)