Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2016 November 24

= November 24 =

Referencing errors on Ant and Bee
Reference help requested.

How can I revert an article to what it was before I edited it (earlier today)?

About 4 hours ago, I added some text and a reference to the article "Ant and Bee". Somehow, this messed up pre-existing references, and a Wikipedia bot notified me of this. The easiest way for me to fix this would be to revert the page to what it was before I started editing it, and then start over., because I'm not sure exactly what the garbled references used to contain.

Thanks, Acwilson9 (talk) 03:41, 24 November 2016 (UTC) acwilson9

Never mind for now - I think that I have stumbled upon another way around this.

Thanks, Acwilson9 (talk) 03:57, 24 November 2016 (UTC)


 * for future reference, to revert back more than one edit, a quick & simple way is to click on the 'history' tab at the top of the page and then click on the date in the history, of the revision you want to go back to. This will display the page as it was at that time. Click 'edit source' and save the page. This will restore that earlier version. Use an ES like 'restore page' and add the reason. You can then redo your edits as required. Eagleash (talk) 14:48, 24 November 2016 (UTC)


 * An alternative, if you only want to revert some of a string of edits, is to use two separate tabs in your browser, one editing the current version and the other editing the old version. You can then copy sections from the old version and paste them into the new, replacing the faulty sections, but you need to keep careful track of what you are copying from and to.    D b f i r s   08:02, 25 November 2016 (UTC)

Phil Akashi
Hello, It seems that I made a mistake to create the article "Phil Akashi". I wanted to create it on the English version of Wikipedia, and I think it is on the french one. How can I change that?

Thank you caroline — Preceding unsigned comment added by Art Plus shanghai (talk • contribs) 04:24, 24 November 2016 (UTC)


 * you created it on the English version of Wikipedia, and wrote it in English. But it needs some attention, as it currently cites no references. Maproom (talk) 09:28, 24 November 2016 (UTC)
 * The post was about fr:Phil Akashi which has been deleted for not being in French. The English Wikipedia version Phil Akashi was created after the post. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:56, 24 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Deleted as a copyvio. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 16:49, 25 November 2016 (UTC)

Duplicate Pages
Can anyone help me delete Agneya singh or merge it with Agneya Singh? As you can see these are two identical pages but the first one has a capitalisation error in the last name. Any ideas on how this issue can be addressed? FilmForum61 (talk) 05:35, 24 November 2016 (UTC)


 * You seem to have blanked the page which has produced a speedy deletion request under criterion G7. However, did you create the new page by copy and paste? This is not something that should be done as the page history of the original page has to be retained. The page should have been 'moved'. (See WP:MOVE). The original page should be kept as a redirect and it may require a history merge. Eagleash (talk) 06:56, 24 November 2016 (UTC)
 * I blanked the page because it was created by error. I did not realise the last name was not correctly capitalised so I blanked it and shifted the contents to the correct page spelling. I realise I should have Moved the page but had already made the error by then. So should I wait for the speedy deletion or is there something you recommend that I can do in order to address the issue? I have redirected the page but that is just a temporary solution. Thanks for your help Eagleash! FilmForum61 (talk) 07:01, 24 November 2016 (UTC)


 * If you saying that you cut and pasted the content it will require a history merge I think. I believe this can only be performed by an Admin. If it gets deleted as speedy it will only confuse the issue, so I will remove the and create a redirect and req. hist merge. Eagleash (talk) 07:08, 24 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Great thanks! That should hopefully solve the issue. However can the page be merged entirely? It will be confusing to have it listed as a redirect for simply a capitalisation error. FilmForum61 (talk) 07:13, 24 November 2016 (UTC)


 * It should be kept as a redirect to preserve the page history. This is a copyright issue and apparently quite important! (It's a possible search term too). Eagleash (talk) 07:16, 24 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Okay I understand. Thank you. FilmForum61 (talk) 07:22, 24 November 2016 (UTC)


 * It seems you have created a bit of a muddle here! Apparently an article was deleted via AfD and the content transferred to your user space. Despite this a further page was created at an incorrect title and subsequently C&P'd. This page is likely to be deleted under CSD G4 and it would be best if you worked on the 'draft' in your user space until it is ready..and do not cut and paste it into mainspace. (See WP:MOVE). Eagleash (talk) 07:37, 24 November 2016 (UTC)


 * I did work on implementing the copy revisions in my user space. The only error I committed was creating a new page under an incorrect title and then copying the contents instead of moving it. FilmForum61 (talk) 07:43, 24 November 2016 (UTC)

It now transpires it was deleted as promotional not via AfD. New page is improved. An Admin. is 'on it' so it will be sorted. Eagleash (talk) 08:06, 24 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Thank you. Apologies for the confusion. FilmForum61 (talk) 13:50, 24 November 2016 (UTC)

Vague page
Zoovier - I came across this page today in the new album articles and I don't know what's going on with it. It has an infobox from an entirely different album and no other information. Should it be marked for deletion? -- Jennica ✿ talk / contribs 05:58, 24 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Infobox was probably copied from a different article but not all fields were changed. You can complete the work if the album is notable. Ruslik_ Zero 16:23, 24 November 2016 (UTC)

Referencing errors on Shapiro Senapathy Algorithm
Reference help requested.

1. How can I have a list of citation as a table for any research people to refer under different table format? If you don't accept how I can achieve this? 2. Let me know where is DOI error.

Thanks, Ganeshmanohar (talk) 11:14, 24 November 2016 (UTC) Ganesh Manohar

Trying to track down an old edit of mine
I did a particular edit between around 6 months and a year ago. But I cannot remember which article I edited although I checked two likely contenders but drew a blank. It has to be either an article about a particular type of bias or an article about an aspect of managers or management. I used a fascinating cite to support my edit but I just cant find it. I have waded through my contributions. I have tried searching on search terms "manager" and "bias" but have still not found it. Any ideas? Incidentally the edit is no way controversial so it wouldnt have been deleted from the system. Even if it was reverted, which is probably unlikely (i didnt get any notification of that) it would still be listed as a contribution of mine. It would be helpful if I could do a keyword search on just my own edits.--Penbat (talk) 11:47, 24 November 2016 (UTC)


 * I was going to suggest WP:WIKIBLAME but you need to know what article. Maybe someone at WP:AWB can help you in the requests user tasks section. If you know a certain word that you used in your edit, maybe they can search through your contribs? Just an idea. Not sure if it will work. Or if someone would assist.  † dismas †|(talk) 13:15, 24 November 2016 (UTC)

Changing "Died" to "Attained immortality"
We have a new editor who is changing "Died" and "Death" to "Attained immortality" in  articles about Sikh Gurus. They are also changing "Death date" to "Immortality date" and "Death place" to "Immortality place" in infoboxes - which means that they do not show up, as these are unsupported infobox parameters. I am aware of WP:EUPHEMISM, but this is a question of fundamental belief, rather than polite phraseology - specifically a belief that the Gurus being referred to, did not die. Is there a policy/guideline that covers these circumstances ? - Arjayay (talk) 15:18, 24 November 2016 (UTC)
 * It certainly violates WP:CRYSTAL, and will continue to do so. Ghmyrtle (talk) 15:42, 24 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi . There's no policy supporting the change to attained immortality either. Even if there were a formal ordainment of attaining immortality for the Sikh Guru, the term died et al. is what should be used in the relevant paragraphs of the respective articles, with a note/section giving details about the ordainment (if at all such a thing happens in Sikh Gurus). I suspect it's just a religious follower who does not like the term died used for Gurus. e.g. At the Guru Gobind Singh article, an ip has been adding a honorific repeatedly. Maybe nudging your newbie might help. Thanks. Lourdes  01:26, 25 November 2016 (UTC)
 * In fact, I just noticed you've taken the editor to the edit warring noticeboard. Absolutely the right move, given that I noticed the editor's edits now. Lourdes  01:33, 25 November 2016 (UTC)

Hi
hi,how are you? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.248.50.24 (talk) 15:30, 24 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Hello, ...do you have a question about how to edit Wikipedia? Eagleash (talk) 15:33, 24 November 2016 (UTC)

ForeverSpin
Hi, can someone please check out this article as I've used up 2 reverts of unsourced "warning" notice, thanks Atlantic306 (talk) 17:18, 24 November 2016 (UTC)
 * I've done that, and improved the formatting of the article. Maproom (talk) 17:25, 24 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your help with the editor and article, am seeing this company advertised all over the place Atlantic306 (talk) 21:09, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

Referencing errors on Ben Feringa
Reference help requested.

I copied the reference tekst example but now it says it's wrong??? It's some html code that's probably missing a special sign?

Thanks, 82.75.246.57 (talk) 18:51, 24 November 2016 (UTC)


 * It was fixed with this edit. You don't need a ref name if the ref is only used once and when defining it like that where you want to use it again later, you don't put in the closing '/'. For a second or subsequent use you use with the closing '/'. See WP:REFB for a basic guide to referencing. Eagleash (talk) 19:02, 24 November 2016 (UTC)

Monash University
Please make the word "education" at the bottom of this page NOT be in the colour red - there are some Wikipedia pages which are to do with education which this page should be linked up to. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Srbernadette (talk • contribs) 21:56, 24 November 2016 (UTC)


 * The reason it is red is because it is a piped link to "Monash University Faculty of Education" I.e. to a Wikipedia page which in this case does not exist. When someone writes the page (assuming it warrants one) the link will become blue. Eagleash (talk) 22:05, 24 November 2016 (UTC)

Mount Macedon, Victoria
This page has many mistakes which I am not responsible for. Please have a look. Srbernadette (talk) 23:54, 24 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Please clarify what is causing you concern. Also, as has been mentioned to you many times, if you see something wrong you are at liberty to correct it. Eagleash (talk) 00:05, 25 November 2016 (UTC)

There are many sections on this page in a grey boxes - in the  "Notable houses" and "Private gardens" sections. I have never attempted to "fix" up this as I do not know if it is OK. I suspect it is all wrong. Please look. Srbernadette (talk) 00:36, 25 November 2016 (UTC)
 * They are in grey boxes because they start with a space, . It appears that whoever wrote that section was trying to get a nested list: the way to do that would be to start the second-level items with two stars, rather than the space-plus-star they have used. I have not corrected this, because I think the list (and especially the nested list) is not the most appropriate way to present this information: it should be rewritten as prose. --ColinFine (talk) 00:41, 25 November 2016 (UTC)

I have tried to re-write the section on "Notable houses". I am not sure what to do regarding the "Gardens" sections which follows. I shall leave it all for another more capable editor to fix up the mess. Cheerio Srbernadette (talk) 02:08, 25 November 2016 (UTC)
 * I have reformatted the "Gardens" section. Thank you, Srbernadette, for reporting this misformatting. Maproom (talk) 08:59, 25 November 2016 (UTC)