Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2016 October 3

= October 3 =

Help #2
Can some automatically link all of these articles with an asterick, like *. WikiOriginal-9 (talk) 00:06, 3 October 2016 (UTC) If you don't have Excel or some similar program, I'll do it for you. Nyttend (talk) 00:13, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
 * 1) Copy the text into Microsoft Excel, the second column of the table
 * 2) In the first column of the table, insert some nonsense character
 * 3) In the third column of the table, insert some other nonsense character
 * 4) Copy the whole thing into Notepad
 * 5) Use Find-Replace to replace the first nonsense character and the tab character with *[[ — for example, if your nonsense character is  you'll want to put   [click Edit to see the text here; the tab character isn't displaying] into the top and   into the bottom
 * 6) Use Find-Replace to replace the tab character and the second nonsense character with ]]
 * 7) You're done getting the necessary code. Copy it back into the edit window.
 * ✅ using  and   in Vim (much easier and quicker than Excel, if you know how to use it)   Murph 9000  (talk) 00:15, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Really? Since you'd already done it, I decided to see how fast it would take.  Starting at 8:16:00 according to my system time, I followed my own instructions, and although I had to wait for the edit window to load, for Excel to load, and for the wikipage to save after I'd dumped the text there, I was done at 8:17:26.  Nyttend (talk) 00:19, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Less than 60s using vi / vim, probably around 20–30s if I really wanted to go fast, and that includes starting the editor and the pasting to and from MW. It's hard to beat fast and simple 1970s tech if you know how to use it.     Murph 9000  (talk) 00:25, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Or, even faster, one command instead of two:    Murph 9000  (talk) 00:33, 3 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the tips guys, saved me having to link all of them manually lol. WikiOriginal-9 (talk) 01:02, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

Cant upload image... unknown error
I have a problem uploading images, could anyone help out? I get half way on uploading an image from my computer and it gives a "something went wrong" — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dre Waters (talk • contribs) 00:54, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

I suspect it is the latter, for which your account needs to be WP:autoconfirmed (over 3 days old and 10 edits) before you can upload images. If you can't wait that long, please apply at files for upload. If it was Commons, please explain where you uploading the file from, and exactly what the message is. Please sign all posts on talk pages with 4 tildes ( ~ ) which will add your signature and a timestamp - Thanks - Arjayay (talk) 10:12, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi Dre Waters - You have not said whether you are trying to upload the image to Wikimedia Commons, or en.Wikipedia.


 * Over 4 days (rather than 3), I believe. --David Biddulph (talk) 12:06, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

Help #3
One last request. If you look at the templates and categories at User:WikiOriginal-9/sandbox8, they have the template: and category: wording. Can someone automatically make them all display without that stuff. For example, Template:1941 NFL Draft turns into 1941 NFL Draft. WikiOriginal-9 (talk) 01:08, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
 * ✅  in vim.   Murph 9000  (talk) 01:13, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Edit conflict :-) Put the whole thing into Notepad, replace ]] with |]], and paste into the edit window. See WP:Pipe trick; if you have a namespace prefix, a colon, and the page name, the pipe trick causes it to display with just the stuff after the colon.  Nyttend (talk) 01:15, 3 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Hmm, didn't know about the pipe trick. Thanks again, you guys are legends. WikiOriginal-9 (talk) 01:25, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

How to cite documents
Hi there. I am trying to add information to Dr Karim Azkoul's page. I am in possession of documents photocopied from the United Nations library and I would like to know how to use them as references here in Wikipedia. They are transcripts from the United Nations original talks on the founding of the Universal Human Rights Declaration, and they prove Dr Azkoul's importance therein.

All help will be greatly appreciated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hiphopwiki (talk • contribs) 11:43, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Hello and welcome to Wikipedia. You might wish to read our beginner's guide on this, aka referencing for beginners. Come back if you need more help.  Lourdes  12:27, 3 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Hello, . There are two issues here:
 * Have the documents been published? If so, give suitable bibliographic information that a reader can in principle find them (eg through a large public library). If they haven't, don't cite them.
 * From your description, they sound like Primary sources. Such sources can be cited in some circumstances, but one thing they can never do is to establish somebody's importance. For Wikipedia's purposes, that would require reliably published commentary by an independent writer. --ColinFine (talk) 13:12, 3 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia has a number of useful citation templates here, which can be used to cite various types of documents. You can find more here. Sadly, you may not be able to find what you are looking for in either of those lists, for example if you wanted to cite this letter from Karim Azkoul to the President of the Security Council you might want to use Template:Cite letter, but it's not found in either of those lists.  Ideally, Wikipedia should have some sort of Template:Cite UN Doc which would include the UN document number, but we don't seem to.
 * Chances are the documents you are using are available on the United Nations website, since they have an extensive library of all their founding documents and correspondence. This search gives you all UN documents that mention Mr. Azkoul's name. You can use Template:Cite web to cite them, although it is not ideal.  However, if you are working from paper photocopies it might be a pain for you to look them up on line.  Really, if you want you can just use any citation style you prefer that has guidance for citing UN documents; as a legal scholar I typically use Bluebook.  It is not mandated that you use Wikipedia's citation templates. ~  ONUnicorn (Talk&#124;Contribs) problem solving 16:03, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

Translation of article from Japanese Wikipedia

 * ja:西里静彦

The Japanese version of 'Shizuhiko Nishisato' is not properly translated into English. When you press 'translate into English' you get totally incorrect translations. Please provide a proper translation of it into English. I can help with this task. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Snishisato (talk • contribs) 14:31, 3 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Hello, . There is no necessary connection between pages on a subject in different-language Wikipedia's. A version may start as a translation of another version, but it will not necessarily remain close to the original. There is no "translate into English" button - there may be a "View the English language article which is linked to this one", but that is a different thing. If you can help translate an article from the Japanese Wikipedia into the English one, that will be very welcome: please see Translation. Note that different Wikipedias have different rules, so just because there is an article on a subject in ja, it does not automatically follow that the subject will satisfy the criteria of notability in en. --ColinFine (talk) 14:45, 3 October 2016 (UTC)


 * The "Translate into English" button may be in the user's browser. Google Chrome has the ability to translate a page by clicking on a button at the top of the browser window which feeds the page through Google's translation software. It's a machine translation though, so may (and often is) wrong due to context, etc. In other words, this is likely not a Wikipedia issue.  It's the fault of the browser and translation software.  † Dismas †|(talk) 14:59, 3 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Yes, Google's automatic translation seems to be comedically bad in this case, opening with Shizuhiko Nishizato (Nishizato Shizuhiko, 1935 June 9 -), the Canada of psychologist ( weighing psychology ), and not really improving much from there. It includes many Yoda-like gems, such as Japan born in, Canada dominating in the psychologist it is.  Please do create an article here, if you believe that it would meet our notability criteria.  I strongly recommend using the Articles for Creation process, to create it as a draft, giving you time to work on the article before it is published.  I will include the standard new article response below, as it contains some useful links and tips.   Murph 9000  (talk) 16:29, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

To create an article, follow these steps:
 * 1) Read Your first article carefully.
 * 2) If you don't have an account, consider creating one (it's not essential, but it makes some things easier, especially communicating with other editors) and logging in.
 * 3) Learn the basics of editing with the Tutorial
 * 4) Make sure the subject is notable enough to warrant a stand-alone article
 * 5) Gather reliable sources to cite in the article
 * 6) Make sure no article on the subject exists under a different title by typing the subject into the search box and clicking 'Search'
 * 7) Use the Article Wizard to create a draft.
 * 8) Create the article, including all your references, making sure you adhere to the Manual of Style and our article layout guidelines. Base the article on what the references say, rather than on what you know.
 * 9) Once you believe that your draft meets Wikipedia's requirements, submit it for review by picking the "Submit your draft for review" button in the draft.
 * 10) Be aware that many drafts are not accepted the first time, or even the second time they are submitted for review, for failing to adhere to our policies and guidelines. New articles by new users are particularly likely not to be accepted, due to new users' unfamiliarity with our rules. Consider gaining experience by editing existing articles before attempting to create new ones.

Orphaned Talkpage
Why does User Talk:Username exist, when there's no User:Username? Rojomoke (talk) 16:21, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
 * It exists because of errors in some AfC submissions. Fuortu (talk) 16:37, 3 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Because of errors like which used "username" as the submitter, hence people using AFC response tools sent notifications to the user page of a non-existent user.  Sensibly the page would now be deleted. --David Biddulph (talk) 16:40, 3 October 2016 (UTC)


 * I just tagged it for deletion. --Guy Macon (talk) 17:20, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

"a link was made from [other article] to [my article]"
Why do I keep getting this when no edits are made on the other article to my article? Even if I check the edit history.

If there's no direct link, why notify the user? We're not playing six clicks to Jesus here. --Cornea Scratcher (talk) 16:50, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Probably because your article was linked to from a template that is slowly propagating across the [other articles]. Sam Walton (talk) 16:55, 3 October 2016 (UTC)


 * If you don't want the notification, you can deselect "Page link" at Special:Preferences. If you want to know why a specific notification was sent to you, you'd need to tell the names of the articles in question; possibly a function related to a template. --David Biddulph (talk) 16:57, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Others cannot see your notifications but I have a guess: NCsoft linked to Master X Master 24 September.[//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:NCsoft&diff=741018677&oldid=691741863] On some articles you must click "show" at the navigation template to see the link. If you view the mobile version then navigation templates are not displayed at all. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:43, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
 * ✅ --Cornea Scratcher (talk) 14:54, 4 October 2016 (UTC)

Calum Von Moger Page Request
Hi just curious if there was anywhere I could request a information page to be made for Calum Von Moger I was curious about his details in bodybuilding and I couldn't find anything on Wiki! Just curious if there was anyone that could make one — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:569:7265:F300:8894:4B02:A070:52F8 (talk) 17:08, 3 October 2016 (UTC)


 * See Requested articles Rojomoke (talk) 22:43, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

Page Not Translating
I created the pages for flags of three Brazilian states — Flag of Acre, Flag of Alagoas, and Flag of Amapá — by translating the corresponding text from the Portuguese Wikipedia. Acre and Alagoas have automatic links to other language Wikis in the side bar, but Amapá does not. Additionally, the Portuguese Wiki page for the flag of Amapá (Bandeira do Amapá) does not have a link to the English version either. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! --(Moshe) מֹשֶׁה‎ 18:42, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Click "Add links" or "Edit links" under "Languages" in the left pane of an article. Fixer88 handled the two first articles.[//www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q2976242&diff=381835067&oldid=239938555][//www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q2244303&diff=381853052&oldid=239959294] You only have to do it at one of the languages. See more at Help:Interlanguage links. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:51, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Apparently there have been 2 different objects for "Flag of Amapá" in Wikidata. Instead of creating a new one, the old one should have been edited. But that should be fixed now, the new entry is now merged into the older object with already existing details and other language links. (In fact the language function did that automatically, once I manually specified the correct Portuguese article via the "Languages" option as described above). GermanJoe (talk) 19:11, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Many thanks! --(Moshe) מֹשֶׁה‎ 04:32, 4 October 2016 (UTC)

Joel Pereira
Joel Pereira was born in Dakshina Kannada District, Karnataka.

He did Civil Engineering from Visvesvaraya Technological University in 2016.

He is a Member of Aam Aadmi Party. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joel8Pereira (talk • contribs) 19:06, 3 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Hello, . I'm guessing that you are asking for there to be a Wikipedia article about you. Please be aware that Wikipedia does not have, or aim to have, articles on everybody. Have several people who have no connection to you written about you in reliable publications such as major newspapers or books from reputable publishers? If the answer is No, then Wikipedia will not accept an article about you, however it is written - the jargon for this is that, like most people in the world, you are not notable. If you do meet the criteria for notability, then Wikipedia could have an article about you; but you are strongly discouraged from writing it, because your conflict of interest is likely to make it difficult for you to write in a neutral tone. If you can find references to demonstrate that you are notable, then please come back here with them, and we'll see if we can help you further. --ColinFine (talk) 20:46, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

Request for Message in Greek
Can someone please provide a message to User:Eccesale in Greek explaining that this is the English Wikipedia? They submitted User:Eccesale/sandbox to Articles for Creation, but it was in Greek (or, at least, is in the Greek alphabet), and I declined it with a standard decline template saying that it wasn’t in English, and they have resubmitted it anyway. The most likely explanation seems to be that they don’t understand the decline, which itself is of course in English. They also submitted an article Σάσια Σάβιτς in article space, and have a message on their talk page saying that isn’t in English. Can someone please explain to them in Greek? (If their first language isn’t Greek, but some other language that is written in the Greek alphabet, can someone figure that out and explain that to them?) Robert McClenon (talk) 20:30, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
 * It's a translation of our existing Saša M.Savić article—I assume they're trying to post it to el-wikipedia and have entered en-wikipedia by mistake. &#8209; Iridescent 20:34, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Interesting. And they wrote the English version of the article.  Weird.  Robert McClenon (talk) 20:42, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
 * I can't compose a message to them in Greek, but here are a couple of links which may help in the explanation:
 * EL-WP: Greek Wikipedia / Βικιπαίδεια
 * EL-WP Community portal: el:Βικιπαίδεια:Πύλη Κοινότητας
 * Murph 9000 (talk) 20:40, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
 * It looks like they have already created it on EL-WP: el:Σάσια Σάβιτς. It looks like it has been tagged with some form of deletion nomination over there.   Murph 9000  (talk) 20:47, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
 * There is a standard message in Greek at Contrib-el1. There are other non-English user warning templates at Category:Non-English user warning templates. —teb728 t c 20:52, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Looks like the Greek language version has a speedy deletion tag, and also has a tag has an autobiography it seems. I've put a CSD on the English wiki version as a foreign-language article that exists in the language's Wiki. Joseph2302 20:57, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
 * The Greek version in the English Wikipedia has been deleted. The sandbox version has been MFDd, but, as they say, it was Greek to me.  Thank you for the help.  Robert McClenon (talk) 23:30, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
 * They speak English, there's a message from them in English on my talkpage. Joseph2302 05:46, 4 October 2016 (UTC)