Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2017 April 15

= April 15 =

How to address this?
I'm sure there's a better place to ask this, but I'll be damned if I know where. I was recently reverting a couple grammatically incorrect, unsourced edits on some pages relating to Japanese history when I noticed that they were both by the same user. I checked on their contributions, and there were, well, over a thousand such edits spanning back to November 2016. I believe that they are a well-meaning user for whom English is perhaps their not first language, but that is wayyy too many pages for me to possibly go through and fix myself. Should some sort of warning be issued? See for yourselves: Special:Contributions/Tokugawa_Nimatsu --Mooeena (talk) 03:35, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
 * I have informed this user: User talk:Tokugawa Nimatsu who was last active yesterday. --Mopskatze (talk) 06:36, 15 April 2017 (UTC)

Ignaz Semmelweis
I have written the page about Ignaz Semmelweis in Korean but Icannot see — Preceding unsigned comment added by Neoper (talk • contribs) 07:00, 15 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Your contributions to the English Wikipedia can be seen by clicking on the "Contributions" link at the top of any page here, but at the foot of that page there are links "Accounts" and "Global contributions", each of which allow you to see your contributions page on the Korean Wikipedia. --David Biddulph (talk) 07:31, 15 April 2017 (UTC)

Although not directly related to real ale.
Although not directly related to Real ale, I like many others also drink beer from cans. I am fed-up with drinking 440ml of beer when I really want a pint. There are some beers available in 500ml cans which is half a litre, which might be OK with continental types. There are very occasionally 1 pint cans, but now we are leaving the EEC; I would like to campaign for a change to 1 pint cans as this is our traditional measure. Would anyone else agree? Kind Regards Andy Linton — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.23.55.208 (talk) 07:28, 15 April 2017 (UTC)


 * At the top of this page it says: "This page is only for questions about how to use or edit Wikipedia." --David Biddulph (talk) 07:33, 15 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia is not the place for your campaign. Try CAMRA.    D b f i r s   07:36, 15 April 2017 (UTC)


 * "And what in hell's name is a pint?" 50.176.141.42 (talk) 21:20, 15 April 2017 (UTC)

Recreation of a deleted page
Hi I had a page titled "Rolta India" which was deleted by the moderator due to its promotional content. I would like to make this page live again by making changes in the content that was posted earlier. Need your help in knowing how to go about this page recreation — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jovian 13 (talk • contribs) 09:47, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Really, that's just the worst way to recreate an article, especially since a lot of the things you added to the article were what made it promotional. Wikipedia is not the place to go on about "Core Competencies," "Quality Benchmarks," and "Awards / Recognition."
 * The best way to do it would be to:
 * look for as professionally-published mainstream academic or journalistic sources that are not affiliated with the company but are specifically about it. Blogs do not work, entries in lists do not work, the company's website does not work, press releases do not work.  Get as many as you can find.
 * summarize and paraphrase those sources into as the most common statements that you can.
 * arrange the summary of those sources into paragraph form. If there is not enough to make a paragraph, the subject may not be notable.
 * try to write the article as if the company does not exist anymore and only say things that even their competitors could not deny.
 * If you follow those steps properly, there's not reason for an article to get deleted. Ian.thomson (talk) 10:10, 15 April 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for your feedback. I have actually done my research and made changes in the original content so that it doesn't look promotional. Have also got rid of points such as quality benchmarks and awards. Since I do not have access to the content that was deleted how do I make changes to it? Do I have to create a new page here or is there a way to access the deleted content and make changes there itself? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jovian 13 (talk • contribs) 10:41, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
 * You can recreate from scratch. If you have a conflict of interest when editing this article, you must declare it. If you work directly or indirectly for the company, or otherwise are acting on its behalf, you are very strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly. Regardless, if you are paid directly or indirectly by the company you are writing about, you are  required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:Jovian 13. The template Paid can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form:     . If you are being compensated, please provide the required disclosure. Note that editing with a COI is discouraged, but permitted as long as it is declared. Concealing a COI can lead to a block. Jimfbleak -  talk to me?  11:04, 15 April 2017 (UTC)

Who gets the award?
In the article Ahmed Sultan Bin Sulayem, I was trying to clean up the references and noticed that at least a few of the awards attributed to Sulayem were actually awarded to DMCC (the government company he is executive chairman of). The DMCC article doesn't list any awards. Am I correct in thinking that only awards given to Sulayem himself, and not his company, should be listed? Leschnei (talk) 13:49, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
 * You are correct, you can move the company awards to the company article, provided they are properly referenced. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 18:32, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks much, Leschnei (talk) 18:35, 15 April 2017 (UTC)

How do I rename a page?
How do I rename a page? I spelled a word in the title wrong. --Cass — Preceding unsigned comment added by Skim127 (talk • contribs)
 * See Moving a page. -- zzuuzz (talk) 15:48, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
 * at the top of the article, there should be a button that says "more". If you click on that, then you will see a button called "move". If you click on it, then you can rename a page. RileyBugz Yell at me  &#124; Edits  16:03, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Just to clarify, we call it "moving" when it is really "renaming" the page. This threw me at first. Herostratus (talk) 19:21, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
 * And me as well first time I encountered it. Move it where? SW3 5DL (talk) 21:33, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
 * This is probably due to mediawiki software being written and maintained primarily by Unix users. Whereas Windows conceptually separates "move" and "rename" operations, in Unix moving a file and renaming it are the same thing.  If you have the file /home/caeciliusinhorto/file.txt, to rename it "file2.txt" you would move it to that name, in exactly the same way you could move it into a different folder.  The computer thinks of the two operations being the same, because a filename is really just a pointer to where the file is stored in the computer's memory: the contents of the file don't actually move anywhere. Caeciliusinhorto (talk) 17:34, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

Business info box help
Where might I find a better info box for this article H. Bronnley & Co.? I'd like the image to be inside the info box, as I believe we normally do. Thanks. SW3 5DL (talk) 21:30, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Template:Infobox company, which this article uses, has parameters for both a logo and an image, so it is just a matter of moving the image to the appropriate parameter. -- zzuuzz (talk) 21:35, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
 * I think company infoboxes usually have images of the logo and headquarters or other buildings but not products of the company. Infobox images are generally supposed to display the article subject and not something they made. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:56, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks, PrimHunter. I can find a copyright free company logo, but where can I find an infobox that takes an image? The one on the article doesn't see to have that. SW3 5DL (talk) 23:11, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Never mind, just spotted the post from zzuuzz. Thanks zzuzz. SW3 5DL (talk) 23:12, 15 April 2017 (UTC)

how to add a category that doesn't exist?
Hello again everybody. I am working on an article, Adaptor proteins, vesicular transport that until yesterday was a disinformative redirect. There is a notice on the page asking to have categories added to it. Unless I am missing something, appropriate categories do not exist! In a perfect world, I would categorize it as "biology" then "wikiproject Molecular and Cell Biology" then "cell biology" then "vesicular transport". I can't find appropriate categories, although being new at this I can imagine that I'm not looking at the right pages. Please advise. Thank you. JeanOhm (talk) 21:57, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
 * You can look for categories on similar articles. WikiProject categories belong on the talk page but don't add them directly. They are added via WikiProject banners like WikiProject Molecular and Cell Biology. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:09, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I added the MCB banner to the talk page. However, I guess I didn't make my question clear. At the bottom of the article page there is this statement "This article has not been added to any categories. Please help out by adding categories to it so that it can be listed with similar articles." Adding the mcb banner to the talk page didn't fix that. I looked at the bottom of the AP2 adaptor complex article, and found "Categories: Membrane biology Peripheral membrane proteins  Membrane protein stubs" which are poor (IMHO) categories for that page and the page I'm working on. Any other suggestions? Thank you again. JeanOhm (talk) 22:30, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
 * I understood the question but I'm not a biologist so I didn't suggest specific categories for the article page. You can also start at a maybe too general category like Category:Cell biology and look for suitable subcategories. It doesn't have to be perfect matches. The box with "This article has not been added to any categories" is generated by uncategorized which can be removed from the source when categories are added. Stub categories are generated by stub templates and shouldn't be added directly but for example via Cell-biology-stub. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:48, 15 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Maybe looking at categories of the Vesicular transport protein article could help...? --CiaPan (talk) 22:32, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks, sort of. However, that article (which I hadn't seen before) is also disinformative (another item for my "to be corrected list". I'm starting to wonder if there are any other cell biologists editing wikipedia, or if the other cell biologists are also feeling overwhelmed by all the corrections that need to be made.) and the categories aren't appropriate. JeanOhm (talk) 22:47, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
 * I found some relevant categories on other articles. Thanks again. JeanOhm (talk) 03:50, 16 April 2017 (UTC)

Help:Cite errors/Cite error included ref
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how to create a wikipedia project
hi, As I know from there. Everyone can create or edit the article on wikipedia. Here i want to know the different between creating a wikipedia with create a article page. As the requirement said in creating a article pages : do not post articles you would not find in an encyclopedia. Then I want to know where should I post a new word or ideas through wikipedia, can i do that through creating wikipedia project? And I want to know how to create the wikipedia project? — Preceding unsigned comment added by ZANGMEIMEI (talk • contribs) 23:46, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia does not use original research -- See WP:No original research. That usually means that we do not host pages about new ideas.  Ian.thomson (talk) 00:48, 16 April 2017 (UTC)