Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2017 April 30

= April 30 =

Marthe Rakine: I wrote an article and cannot finish it. The last part disappeard
I wrote an article and do not find the end of this article any more (I startet twice) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:120B:2C0D:5A90:BC:EFF7:1B35:C9D5 (talk) 08:39, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
 * If you refer to [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Marthe_Rakine&diff=777949863&oldid=777871336 this] edit then click the "View history" tab to see what happened: [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Marthe_Rakine&action=history]. The edit was reverted with the explanation "Failure to cite a reliable source". You can click the link on "cite" and also see Verifiability. PrimeHunter (talk) 08:50, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
 * The article is not yet ready for publication, it has long unreferenced paragraphs which are currently in a section titled "References". I have moved it to draft space as Draft:Marthe_Rakine until it can be finished. Maproom (talk) 08:19, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

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Help: Sister María Justa de Jesús
Hi, I am asking who can improve this article. This is a case of "Alumbrados", as: La Beata de Piedrahita, Magdalena de la Cruz, etc.--CanaryIslands (talk) 14:34, 30 April 2017 (UTC)

Hey, you can ask for help via the talk page located in the article or you can ask for suggestions on improving the article via Articles for Creation  O. neon 21:54, 30 April 2017 (UTC)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by OfficialNeon (talk • contribs)

Removing link from category page
German submarine U-398 can't be missing co-ordinates because the place where it sank is unknown. Therefore I would like to arrange to have its link removed from this category page: Category:North_Sea_articles_missing_geocoordinate_data. Please tell me how I should do that. SewerCat (talk) 20:20, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
 * The category is added by in the article. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:50, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you! SewerCat (talk) 22:01, 30 April 2017 (UTC)

iPad Infobox Editing
Hello! I'm on my iPad and when I go to the infobox to replace a picture that shows a building that's been since demolished to make way for a new building, it doesn't has the option to add the image. How can you add a new image into infobox on iOS? — Preceding unsigned comment added by OfficialNeon (talk • contribs) 20:53, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
 * It depends on the type of infobox and where the image is. Which page is it about? Has a current image been uploaded or where is it? PrimeHunter (talk) 21:42, 30 April 2017 (UTC)


 * It's about a local building which has been recently demolished to make way for an updated building by the same company. The current image is uploaded yes. O. neon 21:47, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Which page is it about? Name the actual page. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:15, 30 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Custom House for ExCeL DLR station — Preceding unsigned comment added by OfficialNeon (talk • contribs)
 * It uses Infobox London station which only supports one image. In the mobile version, click the pencil icon at the top right and change  if another image is better. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:07, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

Disambiguation hatnote, four meanings
I was entering Lanco expecting to see the article Langendorf Watch Company SA (historic "Lanco" watch brand) but got the city in Chile. The disambiguation hatnote, which is using the template for2, already mentions three different meanings of "Lanco", but the watch brand isn't among them. As for2 doesn't accept more than three topics, what approach should I use to add the watch brand meaning? For supports links to up to four articles, but not the currently used custom text (such as "For the country music band"), so doesn't seem ideal. Should I create a separate disambiguation page? Gestumblindi (talk) 21:58, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
 * There should be a disambiguation page. I will handle it. Lanco is currently about a city in Chile but it's not the primary topic so I will make the disambiguation there. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:26, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you, looks good :-) Gestumblindi (talk) 23:47, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
 * I noticed that Talk:Lanco (the talk page of the disambiguation) now redirects to Talk:Lanco, Chile, maybe you could fix that too (by deleting that talk page redirect, I think? It's what we would do in German-language Wikipedia)? Gestumblindi (talk) 21:35, 1 May 2017 (UTC)
 * I have deleted the talk page and finished removing articles from Special:WhatLinksHere/Lanco. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:31, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

Seymour Bernstein
I've never seen this happen before, so I'm not sure the protocol. Is it correct to simply go in and remove the major bulk of an article based on the age of a header tag: Seymour Bernstein action history? It seems a bit extreme. Thanks. Maineartists (talk) 23:01, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
 * , hello. In BLPs, yes; and it's perfectly valid to do that. The unsourced BLP material has been removed (ergo, it has been challenged). Unless someone finds reliable sources to back the claims made in the removed section, it should not be added back. Thanks. Lourdes  02:15, 1 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Good to know. So if I see a section that has the citation improvement header tag with no sources / inline citations, I should simply delete the entire section as a challenge regardless of the size of the content? even if that content is the entire article itself (as was this case)? presently, doesn't that set this subject up for an AfD? When do we as editors take the situation case by case and weigh the consequences independently by seeing that simply one reliable source added to this biography would have sufficed rather than the deletion of all content? the content wasn't contentious or libelous, but merely a poorly attended and sourced article; which a few searches would have yielded results, I would imagine. Are you actually condoning the behavior of absolute deletion over encyclopedic improvement? Maineartists (talk) 03:03, 1 May 2017 (UTC)
 * I agree that it is always better to add reliable sources than to delete valid content, but if no-one can be bothered to do this ... Thank you for restoring the information and adding sources.  D b f i r s   07:35, 1 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Hello . I'll second what mentions. As our BLP policy mentions: "Contentious material about living persons (or, in some cases, recently deceased) that is unsourced or poorly sourced—whether the material is negative, positive, neutral, or just questionable—should be removed immediately and without waiting for discussion. Users who persistently or egregiously violate this policy may be blocked from editing. [...] The burden of evidence rests with the editor who adds or restores material." What seems non-contentious to you may seem contentious to another person. If an editor removes unsourced material from a BLP, the default stand is that the material has been challenged. If you feel strongly about some material being removed, you should not hesitate to re-add it provided you have supported the same with the required sources. Of course, I have seen editors attempting to make a point by removing all unsourced BLP material. That is disruptive behavior, in my opinion, and I don't support that. Hope this clarifies.  Lourdes  03:35, 3 May 2017 (UTC)