Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2017 August 1

= August 1 =

Schrodinger's User
This is likely not the right place to post this but I'm not really sure what is, and the sheer overwhelm of Wikipedia's interface doesn't help. Whenever I post a comment on a talk page and sign off on it, clicking on my username takes me to a page that does not exist. My username was recently disallowed, after which I requested a change and the editing ban I got lifted, but the actual change does not seem to have taken place... or at least, too place partially. My username displays as Kaos-Industries on the top of my screen, my user page, any edits I make, and everytime I sign off on a talk page. However, on my talk page, it displays as HashimA, as seen here: ttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:HashimA. Could someone explain to me what's happened here, and help me fix it?

Kaos-Industries (talk) 00:24, 1 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Your user and talk pages are separate pages. Just click on the red link to your user page, which has been renamed User:HashimA apparently, type something there and save it. It will then turn blue. Clarityfiend (talk) 00:36, 1 August 2017 (UTC)


 * The account User:Kaos-Industries was renamed to User:HashimA 24 September 2016 [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=&user=&page=User%3AKaos-Industries&year=&month=-1&tagfilter=&hide_thanks_log=1&hide_patrol_log=1&hide_tag_log=1&hide_review_log=1] and the talk page was redirected to the new name. But instead of using the renamed account by logging in as HashimA, you created a new account with the name Kaos-Industries 30 November 2016. You either have to start using the account HashimA, or request a new rename of Kaos-Industries to another name of your choice (you cannot rename your second account to the same name HashimA). See Changing username. Which do you want? PrimeHunter (talk) 01:13, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

article issue problem
hello sir i make a post shariram martial school but i diont no my page is delete by wiki so please help — Preceding unsigned comment added by 20sharmashyam (talk • contribs) 04:59, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Hello, the article has been tagged under our speedy deletion criteria #A7. Procedurally, the A7 tag doesn't apply for educational institutions. So I have removed the same. But I have subsequently proposed deletion of your article; please see the comments I have left on the top of the article to understand how to improve the article. Warmly.  Lourdes  05:44, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

Determining when an article title is ambiguous
So I'm pretty familiar with the guideline WP:DISAMBIG, and the article The Racer (Kings Island) has clearly been treated with parenthetical disambiguation. Typing The Racer into Wikipedia's search box takes us to the disambig page Racer. My question is, doesn't the presence of The in the title make a difference here? There is no other page on Wikipedia called "The Racer". I'm wondering if the parenthetical Kings Island should be removed from the title, renaming the article to simply "The Racer". Aside from the advice of taking this to WP:RM, I'd be interested to know if this is the right approach. Thoughts? --GoneIn60 (talk) 05:01, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Hello, the article The Racer exists as a redirect to Racer. In my opinion, the current status is perfect and doesn't need to be changed. Warmly.  Lourdes  05:36, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I would think the right approach would be to raise The Racer at WP:RFD (and if the consensus develops that the roller coaster is WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, it will naturally lead to a page move) rather than The Racer (Kings Island) at WP:RM, since it is a disambiguation issue rather than a "what is the appropriate title" issue. (I have no strong feelings either way about the bottom of the issue.) Tigraan Click here to contact me 07:45, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Lourdes, Tigraan: Thank you for the feedback. It was very helpful. --GoneIn60 (talk) 13:02, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

Misplaced deletion nomination
I nominated something other than an article for deletion recently (a category perhaps?), but can't recall what it was. I can't find it in my watchlist either. I'd like to know what happened to it. Clarityfiend (talk) 07:13, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
 * In [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&offset=&limit=500&contribs=user&target=Clarityfiend&namespace=0&nsInvert=1&tagfilter=&start=&end= your recent contributions outside of article space], I can see Category:Actors from the New York metropolitan area, Category:Films set in sea and Category:Works set in sea up for deletion. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:38, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks. It was the first one I was thinking of. The other two slipped my mind completely. Clarityfiend (talk) 08:40, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

Novopolotsk State Musical College
Good morning,

Why doesn't the page Novopolotsk State Musical College appear on a websearch "Novopolotsk State Musical College" on Google even though I selected the option 'let this page be indexed by search engines' in the advanced settings of the page?

Kind regards, --Les Yeux Noirs (talk) 10:02, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Hello, new articles will not appear in Google searches for 90 days or until they have been reviewed, whichever is the shorter period. Eagleash (talk) 10:07, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your answer --Les Yeux Noirs (talk) 10:11, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
 * , I've removed promotional language and lists of non-notable people without Wikipedia articles (the staff list would soon be out of date anyway). You now need independent verifiable sources to enable us to verify the facts and show that it meets the notability guidelines. I've moved it to Draft:Novopolotsk State Musical College to protect it from deletion while you do that. if you don't understand any of my changes, ask on my user talk page Jimfbleak - talk to me?  12:42, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

2017 MAC Football Championship Game Article
Can you move the 2017 MAC Football Championship Game from the Talk Article To The draft Article Please. 2600:8803:7A00:976A:6010:40F7:DC38:A01E (talk) 14:08, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

Why Didn't You Answer Me GET YOUR LAZY BUTT'S IN GEAR NOW. 2600:8803:7A00:976A:6010:40F7:DC38:A01E (talk) 16:50, 1 August 2017 (UTC)


 * I posted this at your talk page the last time you made such a request, but it appears your IP has changed in the meantime. Allow me to restate:
 * Writing in ALL CAPS is considered shouting and comes across as rude, not to mention demanding that other editors "get their lazy butts in gear." Keep in mind that we are all volunteers here and that civility is one of Wikipedia's fundamental policies. –FlyingAce✈hello 18:41, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I placed the article in the articles for creation review (which is how IP articles are  commonly reviewed). Please be aware that 1,250 articles are waiting, so it  will take about a month to get reviewed. Daylen (talk) 18:49, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

Thanks Daylen For doing that. 2600:8803:7A00:976A:6010:40F7:DC38:A01E (talk) 20:32, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

Finding Wiki-Writers
Hello,

I am trying to find professional Wikipedia writers that I may employ to write a page for me in the required format.

Any suggestions on how to reach them?

Thanks, — Preceding unsigned comment added by 158.106.192.154 (talk) 14:26, 1 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Hello friend. I think you should start by reading WP:Paid editing and WP:COI. For reasons that should become obvious after reading those pages, most paid editors tend to keep a low profile on this project and probably will not contact you directly here, because such editing is generally discouraged and highly controlled (though not outright against the rules if done properly and in a transparent manner).  This is because paid editors will have an incentive to not always follow one of our most important editorial policies (WP:Neutral point of view) to the letter, which has lead to a lot of disruption of articles in the past, as you might imagine.  But the good news is, you don't really need to pay someone to edit; provided that your proposed article meets our criteria for inclusion on the project, you can almost certainly find someone to write it for you for free. Can I ask what the subject is, of this article you wish to have written?   S n o w  let's rap 15:33, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

Add recipient of Soldiers Medal
My father was the recipient of the Soldiers Medal while in Viet Nam. I have the documents and can upload the info. How do I add him to the Soldiers Medal List of Recipients?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soldier's_Medal — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.82.9.2 (talk) 16:36, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Unless your father is notable enough to have an article in Wikipedia his name should not be listed there. If you look at the list, List of Soldier's Medal recipients, every single entry has a Wikipedia article.  If he is notable enough to have an article, the article should be written first and then added to the list.  ~ GB fan 16:43, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

Shane Roiser
I am having repeated defamatory and libelous edits made about myself and seek to have the title page barred from further entries or the editor(s) responsible banned from making edits. The edit timeline shows the nature of the content and the timelines involved. I suspect I know the person responsible and legal enforcement is and has been in place for some time to protect my personal safety and that of my family. It seems however, that you have created a conduit for anonymising false information. There also seems to be a lack of fail safes to prevent repeated breaches. I look forward to some assistance in preventing further continued publication of false personal information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7D:324E:9600:6983:9754:E751:F704 (talk) 18:18, 1 August 2017 (UTC)


 * I think the best thing you can do is go to the BLP noticeboard and post a request there. Alternatively, you can tag the pages for speedy deletion with db-blp.  If that does not help, then contact Wikipedia instead.   Ups  and  Downs  (↕) 18:34, 1 August 2017 (UTC)


 * If unsourced BLP-information ("BLP" = "Biographies of living persons") is repeatedly added to an article, another option is a request to protect the page against further disruption. Wikipedia has a strict policy regarding such information about living people - more details about these rules are available at WP:BLP. I know that doesn't help you immediately, but this background information is hopefully helpful in the long run. GermanJoe (talk) 19:10, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

IP reverting editions
There is an IP that is insisting on removing information that Brazil beat the South American record in the 4x100-metre freestyle relay event at the 2017 World Aquatics Championships in Budapest in these 2 articles: Swimming at the 2017 World Aquatics Championships and Swimming at the 2017 World Aquatics Championships – Men's 4 × 100 metre freestyle relay. One of his editions: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Swimming_at_the_2017_World_Aquatics_Championships_%E2%80%93_Men%27s_4_%C3%97_100_metre_freestyle_relay&diff=793286280&oldid=793134071. I just put the information back with sources verifying it, and I left a message on his discussion page, trying to teach the question to him. If he rolls back the information, now with added fonts, I expect someone to take action, as there is ongoing abuse on his part. Thank you. 179.197.227.146 (talk) 19:31, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I am a third party observer to this. The only reason the reversions seem to have been happening is because SA is not an officially recognized area, and that seems to be all. This does not list SA whereas This does list AM, because AM (meaning Americas record) is officially listed by FINA and Omega timing, simple as that. I hope the difference in area record is recognizable. While "South American" record is bigger than a "national record", I don't know the correct way to list the record on the main page. 24.17.207.180 (talk) 21:14, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Just to add, there is no North American record, just as there technically is no official South American record. 24.17.207.180 (talk) 21:15, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia, or the people who truly understand and live in the "swimming world" (swimmers, fans, coaches etc) don't need FINA's approval to recognize any record. In fact, FINA is highly unorganized on the issue of data management. Until a few years ago they didnt put anything of AM, OC, ER, EU on the time lists (Omega is not FINA, OK?), just the WR, and even so the other records doesn't cease to exist just because FINA don't recognize it. Incidentally, you are the one who is claiming FINA doesn't recognize the record, who guarantees me that FINA don't do it? And even if they don't do it, that would be no reason to ignore the record. All the specialized media have always placed the South American record. And finally, the media doesn't say "record of North America" because this continent only has 3 countries, not counting that US has 99% of the records. Then they never mentioned the existance by total lack of necessity. South America and Oceania has more than 10 countries. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2804:d41:b28:2fba::1 (talk) 22:01, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
 * This is pretty esoteric for the help desk. What you might do is pick the talk page of one of those two articles and post more or less what you've posted here. (On the talk page of the other article, you can put a link to the first talk page to let others know there's a relevant discussion proceeding elsewhere.) If no one shows up for the discussion, you can ping the editors who have recently edited those articles, and you can also leave a neutrally-worded message at a related WikiProject to try to alert more people who have some familiarity with the topic. Rivertorch   FIRE WATER   22:20, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

How do I report a user?
He's been following me around, reverting my edits, and calling me names. Clearly, he's looking for a confrontation, and I'm not interested in giving him one. Please advise. DetroitWheels74 (talk) 20:09, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
 * You can look at WP:HOUNDING. Ruslik_ Zero 20:23, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes, but how do I actually report the user for their "hounding"? And to whom? DetroitWheels74 (talk) 11:05, 2 August 2017 (UTC)
 * In my experience the best way to avoid a confrontation is to just ignore the other party and walk away - maybe take a short wikibreak. If you feel the situation is sufficiently serious, you could write an incident report at WP:ANI - but that is pretty confrontational. And bear in mind the advice in WP:BOOMERANG. Gandalf61 (talk) 12:03, 2 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Except if I'm the one who takes a "wikibreak", he wins, right? DetroitWheels74 (talk) 12:54, 2 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I understand you are feeling angry about this, but thinking in terms of "winners" and "losers" really isn't the best way to approach this sort of issue. An essay that I have personally found very helpful in similar circumstances is WP:MASTODON. Gandalf61 (talk) 13:49, 2 August 2017 (UTC)
 * It's frustrating that angry, nasty people tend to get their way because the rest of us don't want to deal with them, or are "taking the high road". Maybe a good, swift kick in the pants would work better, hmmm? DetroitWheels74 (talk) 21:27, 2 August 2017 (UTC)

Portal:Sierra Leone
In Portal:Sierra Leone in the "Sierra Leone articles" section the part British colony (1800-1961) goes into the article about Sierra Leone's history. Can someone help me how to link the part with the article Sierra Leone Colony and Protectorate? Thanks. –Sullay (talk) 23:35, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi Please see Manual of Style/Linking for details regarding section linking (you just add the number sign, like I did with the link). Have a nice day! Daylen (talk) 00:04, 2 August 2017 (UTC)