Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2017 January 27

= January 27 =

Tom Joyce
I uploaded an image to the info box on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Joyce and the thumbnail has a border with description text "Portrait of Tom Joyce" at bottom. How to I crop to image, removing border and description text. I would also like to center image in the info box. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TJStudio (talk • contribs) 03:15, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
 * If you are Tom Joyce or someone connected with him, you shouldn't be contributing to the article at all. See WP:COI. In addition, the photo you added included a caption ("Portrait of Tom Joyce © Daniel Barsotti, 2012").  Barsotti cannot license the image for use here and simultaneously assert copyright.  The caption has been removed.  See also WP:CREDITS.  General Ization   Talk   03:20, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

New and need guidance...
I updated a friend's Wiki page to include his Philanthropy endeavors and nonprofit humanitarian work, but another user keeps deleting my updates, then flagged it as spam, added warning tags and finally added for page deletion. As a new user I did unknowingly break etiquette by undeleting their removals...and now that person has declared war on that Wiki page. I just wanted to contribute current info, and would greatly welcome any re-edits to help make my info compliant and relevant to Wiki. Could someone please help review my contributions as I don't know what I did wrong. Many Thanks. PDeditorial (talk) 03:48, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tong_Trithara


 * You are free to make an argument against deletion of the article at its deletion discussion page. If you make an argument, it must be based on Wikipedia policies, not your strictly personal feelings or analysis. Sometimes a Wikipedia article will exist for a considerable time, even years, before an editor carefully examines it and decides it does not merit inclusion in this online encyclopedia. I'm sure the current situation is frustrating for you.


 * To understand what has happened, please take some time and read Wikipedia policy about "notability." This is a fundamental concept for Wikipedia and the use of this policy determines what can and cannot be included as an article. Here is the main policy: WP:Notability. Here is a supplementary page with more policy guidance relevant to this particular article: WP:Notability_(sports). Another very important policy page to read is called: WP:What Wikipedia is not. These policy pages will help you understand the recent editing events for this article. Because you referred to the subject of this article as a friend, another policy that might be relevant to you is: WP:Conflict of interest. DonFB (talk) 07:17, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

Duchess of Cambridge
I have added 8 new verifiable references to this page. The caption up the top should now be removed. Thanks. 101.182.188.199 (talk) 05:43, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi . If you truly believe you reasons the maintainence template was added, then you may remove the template yourself as explained in Help:Maintenance template removal. If you want to discuss whether the citations you've added are enough the remove the tag, then you can post something on the article's talk page. One thing you might want to do before you add any more references to articles is to make sure there is a "References" section as explained in Help:Referencing for beginners. If not, just create one before adding the citations. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:50, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

Please check that I have done everything correctly. Thanks so much 101.182.188.199 (talk) 06:20, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Removing a maintenance template itself simply involves deleting it in the editing window, so you did that fine. Whether a template should be removed in the first place is sometimes subject to debate. You were bold which is fine. If by chance another editor re-adds it or adds a different template, then don't take it personally and just revert the edit off-hand (unless of course it's a case of obvious vandalism or WP:DRIVEBY). Instead follow WP:BRD and try to figure out why they added it and what it's going to take to remove it. -- Marchjuly (talk) 07:07, 27 January 2017 (UTC)


 * One thing wrong with the reference citations you added is the thing which you have persistently got wrong despite being told numerous times (under your user name and various IPs), i.e. your use of the "|publisher" parameter. Why do you find it impossible to grasp that if you use the publisher parameter in a citation it should be for the purpose shown at Template:Cite web, that is the name of the publisher.  Things like the copyright symbol and like "Bio and the Bio logo are registered trademarks of ..." don't belong in the citation.  The place for the date is not in the publisher parameter, but in a parameter which has been provided specifically for that purpose, namely the "|date" parameter.  Perhaps another editor can explain it to you in a language which you can understand?  --David Biddulph (talk) 10:12, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

Biography
Hallo I am Adam kassim Napa and would kindly want edit ma biography information and add pictures. [contact info redacted].thanx a lot — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adam kassim ug (talk • contribs) 09:48, 27 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Hello, . The name Kassim Napa Adam (also: Adam Kassim Napa) is mentioned in the Wikipedia articles Uganda_at_the_2000_Summer_Olympics and Boxing at the 2000 Summer Olympics – Featherweight and Boxing at the 1999 All-Africa Games. However, he (or you) is not the subject of "multiple published non-trivial secondary sources which are reliable," which is the requirement for a person to have a standalone article under the Wikipedia notability policy. His (or your) participation in the All-Africa Games and the Olympics is significant, but not sufficient by itself to warrant an article in the absence of multiple non-trivial sources as stated above. If you are that person, please also note that, "Autobiography and self-promotion are not the routes to having an encyclopaedia article." DonFB (talk) 12:20, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

my edits no longer appear
I made a number of edits yesterday to this listing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hearst_Television

I saved the edits, then checked the page subsequently and the edits appeared.

Today, all the edits are gone. What step did I miss? Or are the edits first subject to a review?

Full disclosure: I would qualify under the “conflict of interest” guidelines (I checked this belatedly after I made my edits). I am a paid representative of this company.

That said, many of the entries on the page were outdated and/or inaccurate, and I was simply correcting them.

What do I do? Please help.

Thank you.

Tom

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 * Hi your edits were reverted here:  by user: Mrschimpf. Although Mrschimpf did not specify in their edit summary or leave word with you on your talk page (or the article's talk page); it would have aided in your understanding of the situation. Hoping that by pinging you both here, this will start the correct conversation on the matter. Best. Maineartists (talk) 18:22, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
 * The issue I had with the edits was they changed so much text without even an advisory edit summary, and the edit read as overly promotional, and I also suspected a conflict of interest. I did re-add the information about Litton as that did indeed need an update but the remainder of the edits had a tone inappropriate for the encyclopedia; please ensure your writing is neutral in the future.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 19:23, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I just wanted to use one of the sentences that was removed as an example so that might better understand:
 * "Hearst Television is recognized as one of the industry's premier companies, and has been honored with numerous awards for distinguished journalism, industry innovation, and community service."
 * This is very promotional in its tone. It is also not backed up by any references whatsoever. † dismas †|(talk) 19:40, 27 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Well, so much for the help in Help Desk. Thank you for disclosing your WP:COI. Although WP discourages it, that does not mean you cannot edit articles; even those with which you are associated. If you disclose this information on the article's Talk Page and keep your point of view neutral WP:NPOV without a promotional agenda as previously stated, you are more than welcome to contribute; just as long as your edits and contributions are cited with well sourced references: Referencing for Beginners. This ensures that your contributions are not reverted or challenged. If at any time you need assistance, feel free to ask questions on the article's talk page, here at the Help Desk, or at Tea House. A WP editor or admin will be happy to help out! Best. Maineartists (talk) 20:41, 27 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the feedback on my edits to this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hearst_Television

I'm fine with having any language I inserted removed if it appeared promotional. My apologies.

Althought there remain a number of statements which are long outdated or are inaccurate, which I had attempted to address, including:

- "It holds joint ventures in television production with NBCUniversal Television Distribution (although most of the stations it owns are affiliated with ABC)." (No longer true in either case)

- "Hearst is the largest group owner of ABC-affiliated stations after the E. W. Scripps Company and Sinclair Broadcast Group, and the second-largest group owner of NBC affiliates.[citation needed]" (This is now outdated due to recent industry consolidation.)

- "Currently, Hearst owns a total of 32 television stations: twelve NBC affiliates, fourteen ABC affiliates, two CBS affiliates, two CW affiliates, one MyNetworkTV affiliate, and one independent station." (Hearst TV uses a different definition of its actual number of TV stations, and counts them as 30.)

- "All Hearst-owned stations uses "Project Economy" during most business segments." - "In addition, all Hearst-owned stations also use the "Commitment" banner for all political news coverage leading up to the local, national, and statewide elections in lieu of a localized version of the network's political segment." - "Operation High School" is Hearst's branding in most markets for coverage of local high school sports."

(The "Project Economy" and "Operation High School" banners have not been used for years. The DC bureau does not do political reports "in lieu of" local political reports by the stations; they supplement the stations' own local reports.)

I'm the "PR guy" for Hearst Television and I simply want to ensure the page is as accurate as possible. Happy to engage directly with the appropriate editor on this. As you've gleaned, I'm a "newbie" and still learning the most efficient way to correspond here....

Tom ```` — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tcampo123 (talk • contribs) 21:06, 27 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Hi . The recommended way for you to proceed is to post suggestions on Talk:Hearst Television. Be as specific as you can (eg "Replace XXX with YYY"), and give a reliable published reference for any information you are looking to add - preferably, one independent of Hearst TV. You can add edit request (with the double curly brackets) to your suggestion, to get it put on a list of requests waiting. In time, a n uninvolved editor will look at your request and decide what to do with it. But before you do that, you must declare your status as a paid contributor according to WP:PAID. --ColinFine (talk) 23:04, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I did remove what you requested was out of date and edit as guided, though I have seen that "Operation High School" remains in use on many Hearst stations (WISN-TV, for instance]]), so I tweaked that as I know other non-Hearst stations also use OHS branding. Here for station count we go by number of stations even if they're semi-satellites (which does bring it down to the 30), so I will re-edit that within our standards.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 18:14, 28 January 2017 (UTC)

Deleted draft
I wrote a draft for an article more than one year ago, but it seems to have been deleted. How can I recover it? I can't get anything back from the deletion log. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mijily (talk • contribs) 22:44, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
 * It appears from [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Primefac&diff=next&oldid=762302372] to be about fr:User:Mijily/Brouillon. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:33, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

Problems with biography of Dave Carley
Dave Carley may or may not be a successful playwright, but his biography has a few problems. It has no sources at all, just a link to his own site. It reads like an advert, which is not surprising since it may (or may not) have been copied directly from his site. The first two paragraphs come from here and third paragraph seems to be from here. I have no idea how to deal with this. Any advice? World&#39;s Lamest Critic (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 23:16, 27 January 2017 (UTC)


 * I would say he minimally meets the standard for WP:Notability_(people). A google search provides a modicum of sources to support content in the article. But the article needs revision to eliminate promotional tone and any copyright violations, while assuring it complies with biography of living persons. History shows several contributions by an editor with his name; article can be tagged with BLP sources, which I've done. DonFB (talk) 00:40, 28 January 2017 (UTC)