Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2017 January 6

= January 6 =

intrigation
what is the reasion make intrigation and its history — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.224.23.26 (talk) 01:30, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
 * There is no word "intrigation" in the English language. -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  01:56, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Maybe they meant irrigation? † dismas †|(talk) 01:57, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Or "integration"? Patient Zerotalk 13:14, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I guessed they meant Interrogation. --ColinFine (talk) 00:07, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

Can I add reference of the site while editing articles
Hello, I am new to this and trying to understand if I can I add references to sites while editing articles, in particular these sites listed below: http://www.mediamonitors.net/afzalkhan1.html http://www.qiblah.us/qiblah-north-america/qiblah/appendices/appendix-2/ http://alsunna.org/New-Fatwa-from-Azhar-reconfirming-Qiblah-in-North-America-is-Southeast.html#gsc.tab=0 Thank you Omar Chaabano (talk) 09:40, 6 January 2017 (UTC)


 * The first and third sources (MediaMonitors and Alsunna) appear to be acceptable. The Qiblah North America source may be questionable because it appears to be a blog, although some blogs can be considered authoritative. Comments by readers on blogs cannot be used as sources. I encourage you to look at the Wikipedia policy on reliable sources to acquire a good understanding of its requirements for references. Also, take a look at this page to learn about correctly formatting references. DonFB (talk) 13:23, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

commercial sites used as citations
Is is OK to use commercial sites such as Goodreads or Amazon pages in citations so long as the citation is being used to establish mere existence, dates, authors, etc.?--Toploftical (talk) 10:17, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes. † dismas †|(talk) 13:05, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Indeed. Tigraan Click here to contact me 13:54, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

Deleted Page?
Hello. I had a page already deleted because of to small info. Now I don't know if my new page got deleted. I made it yesterday and today I got a suggestion to edit by another user. Now the problem. I cannot find my page. It should be Flying bulls, which redirects you to Flying Bulls Aerobatic Team. Red Bulls Aerobatic Team is not my page or anything to it. I already have edited the page, which I get redirected to. Now I can't find my own page and I did not get a message, that it got deleted. I hope the mystery finds an end, because it was a lot of work. Thank you! Jodsalz1 (talk) 11:20, 6 January 2017 (UTC)


 * You can find your contributions listed at Special:Contributions/Jodsalz1, accessible via the "Contributions" link at the top of any Wikipedia page. Page names are case-sensitive, so Flying bulls isn't the same as Flying Bulls.  The latter redirects to Flying Bulls Aerobatics Team (spelling is critical, so your link to Aerobatic rather than Aerobatics doesn't work).  --David Biddulph (talk) 11:34, 6 January 2017 (UTC)


 * You can also see the history of the page which you started. --David Biddulph (talk) 11:37, 6 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Hello, the page you created (Flying Bulls) has indeed been re-directed by (pinging) to Flying Bulls Aerobatics Team. However that seems to be a Czech aerobatic team whereas your page is about a private collection owned by Dietrich Mateschitz, the CEO of the Red Bull drinks company. They seem to be two separate entities although the Czech team is sponsored by Red Bull. Hopefully Nat will comment here and the matter can be resolved. Your version of the page can be seen in the page history. Click on Flying Bulls which will take you to the Flying Bulls Aerobatics Team page and click on the tiny blue link under the main title, where it says 'redirected from'. View the history and click on the date of the last version before the redirect. This will display the page...however, don't edit it until the matter and any other issues have been resolved. Eagleash (talk) 11:49, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes, I created the redirect as they looked like the same group, but that was based largely on the references added by (pinging)., at least two of the three of which clearly refer to the aerobatics team. That user also bombarded my page with links about the aerobatics team in order to prove the page subjects notability. Investigating further, I find that they may well be separate organizations, so I've restored the page to its status before I added the redirect, minus those two problematic references. --Nat Gertler (talk) 13:49, 6 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Thanks . (I took the liberty of tweaking your ping to War wizard!) Eagleash (talk) 14:18, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
 * You will realise, I trust, that your "tweak" wouldn't have given an effective ping, because the notification is given only when the link to the user is given in the same edit in which the message is signed. --David Biddulph (talk) 18:46, 6 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the ping guys, upon further consideration, I clearly lack the expertise in this subject matter to have an opinion on whether or not either of these pages should exist or if they are two separate entities or not. My plan is to just allow other editors to make this determination over time. Probably having a German speaking editor involved would help, there is also a related article on the German Wikipedia. Cheers. -War wizard90 (talk) 02:46, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

help with removing an obsolete logo
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WFDD The logo on this page is now obsolete, could we get this removed? Thank you.


 * AS that's not the logo shown on the station's home page, I've removed it. Rojomoke (talk) 18:43, 6 January 2017 (UTC)


 * I uploaded a new logo and added it to the article page. DonFB (talk) 00:54, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

Reach the World page
Hi there, I work for Reach the World and we are currently updating our Wikipedia page. However, we are not able to change the actual title of the page. Currently, the title reads Reach the world. We were wondering if it would be possible to capitalize World, so it reads Reach the World. Please feel free to contact allie@reachtheworld.org if there are any issues. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.118.185.98 (talk) 18:56, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Please read the policy on Conflict of Interest WP:COI and Ownership WP:OWN. It is a page about your group, and people who work for the group should propose changes on the talk page. As for the change of name, that can be done, but since Reach the World is a redirect to Reach the world (and the redirect has been edited) it is a tiny bit more complicated.


 * As above. It is not your WP page but an article about the org. Whether a capital 'W' depends on context. For instance, there is the 'Fashion world' with lower case. However, is this org notable in the WP sense? Does it belong here? Oh, and on their home page they repeatedly use world. This article badly needs some good RS  references. The OP should focus on that short-coming first.--Aspro (talk) 20:16, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

George Motola Wiki
His Wiki is inaccurate.His birth name was not George.He changed it.It was Italian.He was married to his first wife Frances {Holgate]Motola Kenedy.In 1941 he had his first child Brenda Joyce Motola August 16, .2 more daughters, Lynn Michelle Motola, Alana Lisa Motola.My mother is Brenda.My name is Stephanie Huerta Bruton.He has many grandchildren,great-grandchildren, great-great-grandchildren.All these people have been left out of his biograghy.I remember seeing my grandfather once.My mothers birth certificate and mine will show you proof.His fathers name was Rocco Motola.My mother has more facts.His first wife Frances [my grandma} became a born again Christian who was very close to God.She was a wonderful person who prayed for her family. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:E000:7F08:C00:5C09:19E9:4B69:502E (talk) 21:03, 6 January 2017 (UTC)


 * If you have improvements to make to a Wikipedia article, please suggest them on the article's talk page (here, Talk:George Motola. But changes will not be accepted without published sources for the information: personal knowledge is not acceptable here. --ColinFine (talk) 00:11, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

Checking on new article submission status
Hello! New user here, still learning the ropes. I posted this question on my user talk page on Dec. 29, but haven't gotten a response yet. It may just be that everyone's busy or there's a backlog, so I thought I'd try seeking answers here.

I submitted a new article for consideration in late December and was told that it could be a week or more until review because of a backlog. This is fine. Just curious how I can check on its progress or even be sure it went through for review because I can't find any evidence of it.

Any help/suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you for your time. STWheeler (talk) 23:06, 6 January 2017 (UTC)


 * , I haven't taken a look at the article, which I presume is Draft:Dupré Logistics, but I thought I'd point out that editor talk pages are for editors to communicate with you. The simple act of posting a question there does not alert the general community that you asked a question. This Help Desk, and WP:TEAHOUSE, are the best places for asking questions of the community about how to edit Wikipedia. † dismas †|(talk) 23:18, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
 * dismas How was that even remotely helpful? Maineartists (talk) 23:31, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Because of OP's comment, "I posted this question on my user talk page on Dec. 29, but haven't gotten a response yet." I didn't want them to maintain the idea that just by posing a question on their own talk page that it was necessarily going to attract the attention of someone who could answer it. † dismas †|(talk) 23:47, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
 * To get back to your question STWheeler, to submit your draft for review in the Articles for Creation process you will need to make one more edit: put the code  (complete with curly brackets) right at the top of your draft, save, and you should see the "Review waiting" box appear. And you can ask for help on your own talk page by putting   above your question; this notifies volunteers who will assist you Noyster  (talk),  00:51, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

I will do that. Thanks for the assistance. STWheeler (talk) 18:43, 7 January 2017 (UTC)