Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2017 July 17

= July 17 =

Glen Affric
Sorry - I have failed in my attempt to add 2 page numbers in the ref - number 23 on this page Glen Affric. Please leave in quote and fix correctly. Sorry 203.132.68.1 (talk) 03:08, 17 July 2017 (UTC)
 * ✅ Looks like someone got to is C T F 8 3 !  10:26, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

About Template:Chinese and Template:Infobox WorldScouting and the typesetting problems with aligned pictures in an article
I've found a problem. When Template:Chinese and Template:Infobox WorldScouting used, the position of left or right aligned pictures cannot fit the correspond section(s) in an article (e.g. Scouts of China). I don't understand the reason of this condition, and help to solve this problem. Thanks! This is  Taiwania Justo  speaking (Reception Room) 09:51, 17 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Fixed with Stack.[//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Scouts_of_China&diff=790980806&oldid=790978469] PrimeHunter (talk) 10:13, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

Edit Wikipedia article to appear in Google search
I have created an Wikipedia article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grindlay_Peerless) but only the Netherlands version appears when searching for 'Grindlay Peerless' in an google.com and google.co.uk rather than the English version I have created. I have changes the advanced settings for the page so that it can be indexed by search engines but this does not seem to have made any difference. Could you please help me rectify this so that the English page can be found as well? Thank you. AndrewFletcher (17/07/17) — Preceding unsigned comment added by AndrewFletcher (talk • contribs) 11:44, 17 July 2017 (UTC)
 * New articles will not be found via Google search until they have been reviewed or for 90 days, whichever is the shorter period. Please sign your posts on talk pages by typing four tildes ( ~ ). Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 11:49, 17 July 2017 (UTC)
 * A new page will be WP:NOINDEXed until it has been patrolled through the New page patrol process. There is currently a queue of 17474 pages at Special:NewPagesFeed, with a backlog of more than 6 months, but if your page has to wait 90 days it will automatically be indexed. --David Biddulph (talk) 11:54, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

"Followed by..." in book infobox
I was just perusing the Firefox (novel) article, and notice that in the infobox it says that it was followed by Wolfsbane.

Chronologically, this is true - Wolfsbane was released directly after Firefox, but it's confusing for a reader because Firefox had a direct sequel (indeed one that starts the instant Firefox ends,) Firefox Down. The infobox suggests that Wolfsbane is a sequel to Firefox. It also seems confusing that lower down in the article it broaches Firefox down as being the sequel - so one might wonder why Wolfsbane is listed in the infobox.

It would seem to make sense that "followed by" should be the sequel? Is there a precedent for this? Chaheel Riens (talk) 12:42, 17 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Hello, . The best place to discuss improvements to an article would be the article's talk page; but if you think that you can improve an article, you are welcome to be bold and edit it. I haven't looked at the article, but from your description, perhaps it needs a little expansion to clarify that the publication order is not the same as the internal order. --ColinFine (talk) 13:00, 17 July 2017 (UTC)
 * There's some discussion of this at the Talk page for the infobox here. For what it's worth Template:Infobox film used to have a similar parameter and it was deprecated precisely due to editorial issues over its usage and generally a consensus that navboxes were preferable. Cheers. DonIago (talk) 13:10, 17 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Ditto Infobox Video game; used to have it and got rid of it. - X201 (talk) 13:39, 17 July 2017 (UTC)
 * , notwithstanding that the last person to use the talkpage was me 4 months ago (not a high view article!) but I didn't want to be erroneously bold as although I'm discussing improving the article, I'm discussing doing so in a manner that may have wider implications as it impacts the usage of the infobox and parameters within it.
 * Still, got some answers here, so all good. Thanks y'all.  Chaheel Riens (talk) 14:16, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

add my client to Wikipedia
Are there proper steps to take to add my Sculptor client to WikiPedia? So that if his name and art is searched in Wiki, his information appears. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Katedunn (talk • contribs) 16:20, 17 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Does you client satisfy any of conditions specified in WP:ARTIST? Ruslik_ Zero 18:16, 17 July 2017 (UTC)
 * If so, you may request an article by adding your client to the list at Requested articles/Arts and entertainment/Visual arts. – Fayenatic  L ondon 18:24, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

request edit for Colantonio Incorporated
My name is Amy Fahey. As Marketing Manager of Colantonio, Inc., I request the following edits to our firm's article:

Change the name of the company to: Colantonio Inc.

Change description to: Established in 1978, Colantonio is a $75 million, award-winning construction manager and general contractor based in Holliston, Massachusetts, specializing in the academic, affordable housing, municipal and historical restoration markets. The firm employs less than 50 people and is privately owned. Its annual volume is $75,000,000.

Add Christopher Powers as Vice President to Key People.

Delete current items of Notable Work.

Add as Notable Work:

New Field Elementary School, Weston, Massachusetts

Colantonio, in partnership with Jonathan Levi Architects, received the 2015 Build New England Performance Award from the Associated General Contractors of Massachusetts for this new construction of a 65,390 square foot elementary school in the heart of Weston’s Case Campus Complex. The project also received the 2015 American Architecture Award from the Chicago Athenaeum and The European Center and was a finalist for the 2015 Harleston-Parker Medal from the AIA/Boston Society of Architects and the City of Boston and for the 2015 Award for Design Excellence from the AIA/Boston Society of Architects. As a sustainably designed and built project, it earned the MA-CHPS (Massachusetts Collaborative High Performance School) Verified Leader designation.

Yarn Works Apartments, Fitchburg, Massachusetts

Colantonio converted the historic Fitchburg Yarn Mill building, which is listed on the National Register of Historic Places, into 96 units of mixed income housing for WinnCompanies. The 182,500 square foot building sits on the banks of the Nashua River and features more than 280 8’ x 10’ windows. The Architectural Team was the designer for the project.

Jamaica Plain Library, Boston, Massachusetts

Colantonio restored the historic Jamaica Plain Branch of the Boston Public Library. The 1911 building, which sits on the corner of South and Sedgwick Streets, had its last renovation in 1936. A glass-enclosed, 2,500 square foot addition to house the new main entry, community meeting spaces, workrooms, a maker space and a reading terrace. Other upgrades include new restrooms, mechanical systems, finishes and exterior landscaping. The architect for the project was Utile, Inc.

New Public Works Facility, Norwood, Massachusetts

The 57,000 square foot project spanned three locations in downtown Norwood. It included site work; demolition; construction of four new buildings, including a new administration building and vehicle maintenance facility; and the renovation of one structure. The facility was kept operational on an extremely restricted site. Weston & Sampson designed the project.


 * — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.13.92.77 (talk • contribs)


 * Amy: I have copied your requests above to the talk page of the article, where editors will decide whether to act on them. They are more likely to do so if you can supply references for the information you want added. Such references should preferably be to sources independent of the company. Maproom (talk) 20:22, 17 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Hello, Amy. Thank you for disclosing your conflict of interest and requesting edits, rather than going in and changing the article directly. A more appropriate place to make the request is the talk page Talk:Colantonio Incorporated, and I have copied your request to there, and added the template request edit, which will put it on a list of suggested edits. There is a backlog on this list; but what I will say is that any volunteer who picks up your request will have to go searching for a source for each of the pieces of information you have asked to be included, because only information which has been reliably published should go in a Wikipedia article. You can reduce their work, and so make it more likely that somebody will be willing to look at your suggestions, by finding the references yourself. Please add a reply on the talk page to where I copied the suggestions, citing reliable published sources (see WP:IRS) for each piece of information - as far as possible, sources unconnected with Colantonio, but for uncontroversial factual information, non-independent sources are acceptable. --ColinFine (talk) 20:39, 17 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Hello, Amy. Thank you for disclosing your conflict of interest and requesting edits, rather than going in and changing the article directly. A more appropriate place to make the request is the talk page Talk:Colantonio Incorporated, and I have copied your request to there, and added the template request edit, which will put it on a list of suggested edits. There is a backlog on this list; but what I will say is that any volunteer who picks up your request will have to go searching for a source for each of the pieces of information you have asked to be included, because only information which has been reliably published should go in a Wikipedia article. You can reduce their work, and so make it more likely that somebody will be willing to look at your suggestions, by finding the references yourself. Please add a reply on the talk page to where I copied the suggestions, citing reliable published sources (see WP:IRS) for each piece of information - as far as possible, sources unconnected with Colantonio, but for uncontroversial factual information, non-independent sources are acceptable. --ColinFine (talk) 20:39, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

Death Euphemisms...
Does anyone know if there is specific guidance in the Manual of Style to avoid "lost a battle with cancer" and similar Euphemisms in terms of describing how someone dies? It would seem that "died of cancer" would be better.Naraht (talk) 21:45, 17 July 2017 (UTC)


 * WP:EUPHEMISM Furrykiller (talk) 22:31, 17 July 2017 (UTC)


 * "Sadly died" is not a euphemism, but very common. Should these mostly be changed to "died" as being more neutral?--Shantavira|feed me 08:08, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes; 'sadly' tends toward a POV or opinion and ought to be avoided. Eagleash (talk) 09:11, 18 July 2017 (UTC)