Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2017 July 21

= July 21 =

Robert Lloyd Sherriff Poet Actor Author Singer Australia  how do i add his details on your site? or i want is place to load all his details
Robert Lloyd Sherriff Poet Actor Author Singer    Australia How do I add his details on your site? or I want is a place to load all his details

your site is so hard I love his poetry — Preceding unsigned comment added by STEVELASTDAY871954 (talk • contribs) 00:15, 21 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi STEVELASTDAY871954, and welcome to Wikipedia! I am assuming that you mean this Robert Lloyd Sherriff: Robert Sherriff? If so, the subject would have to meet Wikipedia's Notability Requirements for People first, before an article could be considered for creation. If the subject does meet the requirements for notability, you can yourself create an article here: Your First Article or request an article for creation: Request an Article. Please keep in mind however that 1) you must have a certain number of edits to your history before you can create and post an article to WP - and - 2) the log for requested articles is quite extensive and may not only take a considerable amount of time, but also be rejected. I hope this helps - and best of luck! Maineartists (talk) 00:50, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

Martineau family
I have added a file to this page - please confirm that it is all correctly done. 203.132.68.1 (talk) 01:23, 21 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes. You indeed added the file correctly to the article's page. However, the file image itself is not standard Wikipedia quality and the image file name is incorrect. It description is misleading; and the subject displayed is confusing. The editor who uploaded the file has a long standing within the community as a teacher who allows students to use their account to practice certain tasks on WP. It would be best if the image was uploaded in a better quality format. However, your edit was spot on. Congratulations. Maineartists (talk) 01:51, 21 July 2017 (UTC)\
 * I have fixed up file and added the actual caption which is on the original page - "Awaiting the arrival of Her Majesty Queen Victoria". Please check. Thanks 139.216.210.155 (talk) 05:39, 21 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Much better! ... Kudos! PS re: Placement - you may want to re-align the image under the section Lord Mayors of Birmingham for spacing reasons. Maineartists (talk) 11:22, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

How to change Wikipedia font size?

 * Just now I accidentally caught wrong keys and my Wikipedia screen font size suddenly went to maximum "for readers with poor eyesight" mode. Please how can I set it back to my preference? Anthony Appleyard (talk) 03:48, 21 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Did you try pressing the "Ctrl" button and moving the mouse scroll wheel? CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 03:52, 21 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Press Control and zero ( +  ) on Windows or Command + zero ( + ) on a Mac. - X201 (talk) 08:55, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

Linkin Park
There is something strange going on with this article. When I go to it, all the links are re-directing me to an inappropriate website. Other users seem to have reported the issue on the talk page. --98.193.98.26 (talk) 04:35, 21 July 2017 (UTC)
 * There appear to be several established editors watching it now. A request was placed a while ago to protect the article, but it hasn't been acted on yet {subtle hint to any admins watching the help desk) . Rivertorch   FIRE WATER   05:55, 21 July 2017 (UTC)
 * , The article is currently autofirmed-edit, sysop-move, and has been for seven years (note, no isp edits). Admin-only edit seems OTT Jimfbleak - talk to me?  06:20, 21 July 2017 (UTC)
 * There was some template vandalism earlier, which has now been fixed. If anyone's still experiencing problems they should bypass their cache. -- zzuuzz (talk) 06:24, 21 July 2017 (UTC)
 * I noticed the request at RPP when I was there for another reason. I see now that someone was asking for PC, not semi. (Incidentally, there is an intermediate stage between semi and full, right? It would constitute an increase in protection level from semi. Not sure if PC is considered to fit that bill nowadays.) Rivertorch   FIRE WATER   06:34, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

Living Computers: Museum + Labs - two sections don't work
In Living Computers: Museum + Labs, you cannot go to the "Photos" or "In the media" sections. I suspect that there is an error with the table above it, but I don't know what is wrong. Can someone fix it? Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 05:20, 21 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Weird. The problem is definitely with the table, but I can't find it. I can make the sections (and their titles) display properly or the table display properly but not both at the same time. On a related note, I'm not clear why there's a separate Photos section. (That's neither here nor there re the question; any section placed below the table gets its top chopped off.) Rivertorch   FIRE WATER   06:17, 21 July 2017 (UTC)
 * I've fixed it by removing "class=floatright" from the table definition. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:39, 21 July 2017 (UTC)
 * I could have sworn that was among the (non-)fixes I tried. Maybe I removed something else in the process. Rivertorch   FIRE WATER   15:39, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

Thank you! Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 21:00, 22 July 2017 (UTC)

Publishing drafts
What's the best way to get a draftified page back to mainspace where the original page is protected? Hack (talk) 07:17, 21 July 2017 (UTC)
 * You can make a request at Requested moves. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:15, 21 July 2017 (UTC)


 * List the requested move in Requested moves/Technical requests. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 10:17, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

Help:Cite errors/Cite error references no text
This request was passed from a Cite error help page

I added some details on the Leh Floods and wanted to add the published reference: Sedimentary and Geomorphic Signatures of a Cloud burst and triggered flash floods in the Indus valley of Ladakh Himalaya. SSG S.J. SANGODE, D.C. MESHRAM , S. RAWAT , Y. KULKARNI , D.M. CHATE. Himalayan Geology 38 (1), 12-29 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.1.114.177 (talk) 08:04, 21 July 2017 (UTC)
 * To use List-defined references the whole article would have to have its references structured that way. I have inserted your reference in the text so that is shows in the reference list near the end Noyster (talk),  11:37, 21 July 2017 (UTC)
 * You're clearly wrong. There is no such requirement, the just needs to be formed properly, independent of whether other refs are defined this or that way. --CiaPan (talk) 11:58, 21 July 2017 (UTC)
 * True, technically mixing styles like this is possible, but not recommended as it could be confusing to future editors of the page. Per WP:LDRHOW: List-defined references and references defined in the body of the article may be mixed on a page—this is not a technical limitation of the template. However, this may be confusing to ongoing editors, and should be normalized to a single style, per WP:CITEVAR. Noyster (talk),  12:11, 21 July 2017 (UTC)
 * That's it: it is a matter of style, not a technical requirement as you wrote above (&apos;the whole article would have to have its references structured that way&apos;). And the actual problem with the OP's edit was a triple of errors: 1° mismatched names for a ref ( vs. ), 2° wrong closing tag ( instead of ), and 3° lacking closing braces   for   but certainly NOT placing the reference in a wrong place. --CiaPan (talk) 12:28, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

Fred Durst
Please change his bio. I think someone got him confused with Chester Bennington and put his death down as July 20, 2017. Its kinda disturbing caue he is still alive.
 * It has been corrected. Evidently, he has been a victim of a "media hoax" (i.e. "fake news").  (Wikipedia won't allow a link to article, but you can google it.) 2606:A000:4C0C:E200:E469:AF1D:EAC1:C2A9 (talk) 16:29, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

My page disappeared
Hello, I uploaded today a page about Yves Weinand on Wikipedia; pushed the "publish" bottom. Unfortunately I do not find it back. Could you help me? Thanks, Georg W. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Georgweinand (talk • contribs) 17:13, 21 July 2017 (UTC)
 * [[Image:Symbol move vote.svg|20px]] Please see Why was my page deleted? The most common reasons are:

To find the specific reason a particular page was deleted:
 * The subject did not credibly indicate the importance or significance of the topic
 * The page appeared to be blatantly promotional
 * The page appeared to unambiguously violate copyright
 * The page appeared to be a test
 * It was vandalism
 * 1) Go to the Deletion Log
 * 2) Type the page title in the case-sensitive search field
 * 3) The date, time and reason for deletion will be displayed P p p er y 17:23, 21 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Hello, . 's reply to you is accurate, but perhaps not very welcoming. I don't find such an article in the deletion log (and if it had been deleted, I would expect to find a message in your user talk page about it, but that page has not so far been created.) I am guessing that you are referring to the draft you have prepared in your sandbox User:Georgweinand/sandbox, which has not been deleted: you can find this again, by picking that link (in my previous sentence) or from the "Sandbox" link at the top of your screen. I have added the template userspace draft to it, so it has a suitable header, and a button so you can submit it for review when you think it is ready.
 * The main problems with that draft are the lack of independent sources, and the promotional language. Wikipedia is not interested at all in what you (or I!) know or think: it is only interested in what has been published in reliable places. It also has very little interest in what the subject of an article says, and no interest in how they want to be presented: an article should be based nearly 100% on what people who have no connection with the subject have chosen to publish about them. In particular, no Wikipedia article should ever use an evaluative word like "innovative" unless it is directly quoting an acknowledge independent published source. My suggestion would be that you first search for places where people unconnected with Weinand have published about him - nothing based on an interview or press release, and nothing published by him or his associates: see WP:IRS. Then write the article solely from what those sources say (but in your own words). When you think you have got it ready, you can submit it for review by picking the button at the top of it.
 * One more point: from your username, you may be related to Weinand. If this is so, you should declare your conflict of interest, and be extra careful to write neutrally. --ColinFine (talk) 11:02, 22 July 2017 (UTC)

Tool to change wikipedia urls to wikilinks?
Is there a tool that will go through a page and change wikipedia urls to wikilinks? The AFC review script has such a function but it's only used on drafts at AFC. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 17:37, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

Edit Name of Article
Two questions:

1. I am editing an article on Salvador Litvak. I would like to add his nickname, Sal, because he is often referred to by that name in media sources. I would like the page to be named Salvador "Sal" Litvak. How do I do this?

2. I added footnotes to the article. How can I delete the template that says it needs sourcing?

Thank you.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Joestander (talk • contribs) 18:10, 21 July 2017 (UTC)


 * 1) Have you reviewed WP's policy on how to administer the proper usage for a "nickname" here: Using Nicknames. Many times abbreviated short names are mislabeled nicknames and shouldn't be used in quotations: "Al" for Albert. If the subject is better known as "Sal" - such as Mel Brooks, I could see changing the page; however, in doing a quick google search for Sal Litvak, the full name was far more prevalent. Hardly any pages on WP are listed in the similar titling as Salvador "Sal" Litvak." If you'd like, put it in the infobox. That should suffice. But honestly, I think you'd have to provide a reliable source for the claim that it is an actual "nickname".


 * 2) You cannot - and should not - remove the template currently placed above the Career section. There are far too many lines needing reliable sources and inline citations for the tag to be removed. The only line currently cited is the last. This does not merit a removal of the tag. Sorry. Best. Maineartists (talk) 19:04, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

How to get article reviewed for Wikipedia publish
I have finished an article for publishing but not sure how to get it reviewed to actually be published. I created it in Sandbox and then added it to my article template area. It has not been deleted but i'm not sure if it is being seen for review ot if i'm doing this correctly.

Please advise thank you Etagmma (talk) 20:32, 21 July 2017 (UTC)etagmma
 * Hello, . You had put your draft article at User:Etagmma. That is not the correct thing to do for multiple reasons, and I have moved it to a subpage in your userspace, at User:Etagmma/Eric Grant. I also have put it up for review via the Articles for Creation process, and removed a line (that code that does not do anything productive; maybe Help:Templates would clear up a misunderstanding?).
 * User:Etagmma is your user page. It is intended to give some info about you (in moderation: Wikipedia is not a social website) for other people who desire to interact with you. To store drafts of articles, you can either create a subpage in your userspace (as I just did), or write in the draft namespace.
 * Now for the bad news: I think unlikely your article will get accepted at that stage. It is very well written, but I fear the subject is not "notable", which means in Wikipedia parlance that there are not many independent people who have written about him (think of "notable" as "has been noted", not as "should be/will be noted"). In particular, I believe that person fails the guidelines for sportspeople, as well as the more general general notability guidelines. Tigraan Click here to contact me 20:55, 21 July 2017 (UTC)
 * User:Etagmma, since your user name is the Greek letters for "EG", please read conflict of interest and autobiography <b style="font-family:Lucida;color:red">Jimfbleak</b> - talk to me?  13:50, 22 July 2017 (UTC)

Change page title
Hi! I need to change a page title for a page I created a few months ago. The change is simple - I just need the middle name to go from a full name to an initial. Is there anyway to do this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jilldiamond1234 (talk • contribs) 20:43, 21 July 2017 (UTC)
 * You can use the 'move page' function at the top of the page. See this page for help!  Malinaccier  ( talk ) 20:49, 21 July 2017 (UTC)
 * You haven't made enough edits to become autoconfirmed and get the right to move pages. I have moved Peter John Webster to Peter J. Webster per WP:MIDDLENAME, but written the full name in the lead sentence per MOS:FULLNAME. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:32, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

Edit conflict check: why not at preview?
I sometimes write decently long posts, or medium-size posts that I had time to make shorter than their original long version. In such case I preview often, only to realize when posting that an edit conflict makes requires significant revision of my post ("everything I wanted to say has been said" is the best-case scenario: swallow your pride and hit cancel - but "they covered everything I covered but with some errors I must correct" sometimes happens). Is there any reason the preview function could not check for edit conflicts? I would assume server load is not a significant issue there. Tigraan <span title="Send me a silicium letter!" style="color:">Click here to contact me 21:07, 21 July 2017 (UTC)
 * There is a request at T19467. I sometimes click "Show changes" to check for other posts. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:37, 21 July 2017 (UTC)