Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2017 June 18

= June 18 =

how to reference an bibliography?
Hi,

This Malaysia Local Artist dont have proper citation in search engine. He do have paper clips as supportive documents but those paper clips dont have in online.

So, how to reference the particular person biography? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Parathaman (talk • contribs) 04:41, 18 June 2017 (UTC)
 * The editor is apparently referring to the article they created at Tamil Silven.  General Ization  Talk   04:44, 18 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Hello, . Sources do not have to be online. As long as they have been published in a reliable source (such as a major newspaper, or a book from a reputable publisher), and enough information is given in the citation that a reader could in principle get hold of the work (for example, through a public library), that is fine. Please see Referencing for beginners. --ColinFine (talk) 09:09, 18 June 2017 (UTC).

Roads in Montenegro
Hello.

Recently I have discovered that all the roads in Montenegro have been renamed/recategorised. What happened is that Montenegrin Ministry of Transport has issued new bylaw with new names or changed categories for some roads. Here is the link to the bylaw in Official gazette of Montenegro. It is in Montenegrin, but as it is basically only a list, it is not difficult to understand it, even for non Montenegrin speaker.

With this in mind, I have created on my userpage articles that are in line with this relatively new bylaw, and also new template for the highways in Montenegro. Here are the links to articles M-1, M-1, M-1.1, M-2, M-3, M-4, M-5, M-6, M-7, M-8, M-9, M-10, M-11, M-12 and template. So, I did the legwork, but I am not sure how to properly proceed, and would love help from more experienced editors.

IMHO, for roads that have been just renamed (e.g. current article for M-2.3 and future article for M-10), should also just be renamed in wikipedia, and then updated as needed. Things get a little bit tricky, when one road has been renamed, and then second road has same new designation as first road's previous designation. (e.g. current article for M-6 witch is renamed to M-7, but there is also new road with M-6 designation). In this case, I believe that first we should do the renaming of article for first road (so as to keep the history of article/road), and after that is completed, a new article should be created for second road with same name as previous article for first road. Next, if we have same designation previously and currently, and if a lot of road actually follows the same route (e.g. current article for M-2 and future article for M-2), I believe that in that case, only simple change should be made. Last situation is, new designation of new road, in which case only new article should be created, and that's it.

Note: Since it was a lot of work for a single wikipedian to do, I probably have same mistakes in new articles, but I am sure that for most part it is correct. I used old articles as much as possible, have created new images to reflect current status, and, even thou I know that articles should be better sourced, I believe that they are improvement over old ones and should be published. So, I would appreciate the help with this, as I have never asked for deletion/moving and staff like that for articles, so it would be better if someone else does it. If what I above suggested is the way it should be done, I could list all the movements/creations/deletions that should be done, so that experienced wikipedian can do it.Requiem mn (talk) 09:13, 18 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi Requiem mn. I think what you need to do is find a more targeted place to post this, where people who are likely to be interested in this topic and who might have specific expertise, see your post/request. You might try Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Montenegro, and (since the last post there was August 7, 2016, and it seems rather unwatched), maybe cross-posting somewhere else. Don't duplicate at a second location but make a head-up request to see that discussion, linking to it, maybe at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Eastern Europe. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 14:35, 18 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Well, after i saw that I'm not really getting answer here, I looked where could I ask for help. Since Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Montenegro isn't that active, I believe that Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Highways/Europe is THE most appropriate place to see what they think. And also, I'm not sure what you mean by "make a head-up request...". Easiest way to me seems just to link what I wrote here, and ask what to do. Or maybe I should copy-paste what is here? Requiem mn (talk) 16:55, 18 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I think you should copy your long post, not link to it, because the help desk gets archived fairly quickly. -- John of Reading (talk) 17:09, 18 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I did notice that only few days are here, its why I asked about copying. Will copy it. P.S. Learned this @ thing from you, so thanks for that too. Requiem mn (talk) 17:14, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

Help with editing References
Dear Help Desk,

I am writing an article and have received the following Check Values listed in bold. How do I correct them?

"Ghana: PUMA Energy acquires UBI Fuel Marketing". Petrolworld.com. Petrolworld.com. Retrieved 03 March 2016. Check date values in: |access-date= (help)

Jump up ^ "PUMA Energy takes over operations of UBI Holdings". www.graphic.com. Graphic Online. Retrieved 07 April 2016. Check date values in: |access-date= (help) Jump up

^ www.Upstream.Makmera.com [www.upstream.makmera.com www.upstream.makmera.com] '''Check |url= value (help). Missing or empty |title= (help)'''

Thank you, SHerronSHerron (talk) 11:09, 18 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Each of those error messages includes a help link a page that explains why the error occurred. When you follow the help links, are the the explanations insufficient to answer your questions?
 * —Trappist the monk (talk) 11:15, 18 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I went to fix them but Prime Hunter got there before me. Please look at the edit made here to see how the errors were fixed. Eagleash (talk) 11:44, 18 June 2017 (UTC)
 * There is a lot to read and learn for new users so I just fixed all the ref errors.[//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:SHerron/sandbox&diff=786274790&oldid=786182894] Summary: No leading 0 when month is spelled out, include http:// in url, write a  in citation templates, don't use   unless you know what you are doing (most editors never use it), no empty   which may accidentally be inserted when clicking a button. Use   for publication date, not  . PrimeHunter (talk) 11:47, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

Thank you, Prime Hunter. I appreciate the help and the tutorial.

Thank you as well Trappist the monk. SHerron (talk) 20:03, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

Linking to another Wiki page
How do I link to another wiki page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rayzorg (talk • contribs) 12:50, 18 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Linking to existing Wikipedia pages is done by placing doubled square brackets around the name of the page. Thus, Wikipedia produces Wikipedia. A useful expansion of this is done by separating what you want linked, from what you want displayed, with a pipe character ("|"), to create a "piped link". Thus: encyclopedia produces encyclopedia, with the displayed text linking to the article, Wikipedia. You can link to internal sections of pages in this way: Wikipedia#name of internal section of that article. By contrast, for external links: http://www.example.org produces http://www.example.org; produces ; and example produces example. For more information, see Help:Link and please consider taking a tour through the Tutorial. Hope this has helped.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 14:20, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

Addition of Joe Novak to Wikipedia
It has been suggested by many Wikipedia users that I be added to Wikipedia in light of my many accomplishments as an artist for the past 36 years and prior to that, as a Harvard trained lawyer.

A recently published edition of my memoir, "Something To Do With Wings" summarizes the trajectory of my life. My question is: What is the process by which a new person is added?

My website is www.joenovak.com. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.132.54.149 (talk) 16:47, 18 June 2017 (UTC)
 * The process, Joe, is that somebody eventually finds you notable, and writes an article, simple as that. -Roxy the dog. bark 18:29, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

Delete an account
How do you delete an Wikipedia account ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 223.16.180.151 (talk) 17:16, 18 June 2017 (UTC)


 * User accounts are never deleted. The Creative Commons license requires that all contributions are properly attributed to the author. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 17:21, 18 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Courtesy vanishing any help? Britmax (talk) 17:38, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

Looking for a user with an expired block
Kind of silly, but I would like to check something with the API. Can someone point me to an account with an expired block? Preferably an admin self-block or a block made in error (I would like to eventually put it in the test cases of a future bot, and I don't want to point the finger at someone who has served time). Tigraan Click here to contact me 17:16, 18 June 2017 (UTC)
 * You can create a test account and ask a sysop to block for a short period of time. Ruslik_ Zero 18:07, 18 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I've had a couple of blocks. (both made in error of course, though perhaps the admins concerned might disagree.)-Roxy the dog. bark 18:26, 18 June 2017 (UTC)
 * is a harmless example. -- John of Reading (talk) 18:31, 18 June 2017 (UTC)
 * The last one is perfect, thanks. Tigraan Click here to contact me 19:08, 18 June 2017 (UTC)