Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2017 March 9

= March 9 =

Saved Pages
I have been recently been using the mobile app version of Wikipedia. It has been very useful for quick background info on daily questions. The one feature I love the most on it is its 'save page' feature, I can always turn back to a page I haven't finished reading or would like to research more. The issue is the pages seem to be all saved locally on my mobile device. So I log onto my computer and wish to continue the same article but I cannot. Is there a saved pages tab when I log into my profile on a desktop? Do the pages store in a 'cloud server' if I log into my account on a different mobile device? If not, what exactly is the point of having a account to save pages if not accessible cross platform when logged into it? HenryG154 (talk) 02:41, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

National Mario Day on Mar-10 th
Could someone please upload a file for me?

I have put in a request, Files_for_upload

The article is about a holiday tomorrow, so it would be great if it was added in the next day.

Mar-10 is National Mario Day. 86.20.193.222 (talk) 07:21, 9 March 2017 (UTC)


 * A "holiday"? Really?  It looks more like just a publicity gimmick for the company which distributes this game.  Frankly, I can't see how that article belongs on Wikipedia at all.--Gronk Oz (talk) 08:08, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Gee, and you nominated it for deletion. That's the last time I'll ask for "help" here :-s 86.20.193.222 (talk) 08:41, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
 * My timing probably left a lot to be desired there. I do hope it won't put you off using the Help Desk.  If you think there is justification for the article, then please feel free to contribute to the deletion discussion here. --Gronk Oz (talk) 12:35, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

My upload request has now been completed. 86.20.193.222 (talk) 08:25, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

problem editing my profile
hallo, i'm Fabrizio Bortolon, and i try to give you the right and complete data about me and my life, work, skill, study, sport experience, but you told me it's wrong way. why? what i make wrong? please let me know and i try to make my date clear. thanks in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fabdrbor (talk • contribs) 07:27, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

Firstly, that page is NOT "your profile" - it is our encyclopedia article about you, and as you have a Conflict of interest you should not be editing the page at all, but suggesting edits on the talk page Secondly, your additions are in Italian, whereas this is the English Wikipedia Thirdly, your edits are entirely unsourced, Wikipedia is not at all interested in what you "know", it only includes information that has already been published in reliable sources with references citing those publications, so the information can be verified. Please do not edit the article again, but make proposals at Talk:Fabrizio Bortolon citing appropriate reliable sources - Arjayay (talk) 07:57, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi Fabdrbor


 * Is this not a suitable AfD candidate under A3? Also struggling to find notability amongst the thousands that compete in these events.--Aspro (talk) 11:45, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

ok! thanks for your answear, but, i like to ask you, for risolve this problem i have, first, what kind of conflict i have whith you? i don't understand, can you explain better? second. of course i write in italian, it's my, you can see, in english i'm not very good, and, if i write in italian wiki, can be easy editing? and where is the italian wiki? where i can find? thirdly. what means <>?? thanks in advance ;-)) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fabdrbor (talk • contribs) 15:52, 9 March 2017 (UTC)


 * Read: Wikipedia:Contenuti promozionali o celebrativi. It explains (in Italian) your conflict that you have with us. If you edit italian wiki you will still have to prove notability. My Latin is better than my italain but you can probably bring it up here: Aiuto.--Aspro (talk) 22:07, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

Repeated re-creation of an advertising non-notable article
The article Snatch bot (and variations with and without the space, and different capitalization) has been created and Speedy Deleted four times since yesterday. I have just tagged the fifth iteration for speedy deletion. The single-purpose editor is not attempting to engage, just re-creating the article. Is there some way to prevent this from going on forever? --Gronk Oz (talk) 07:59, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
 * I've blocked the user and deleted the page as it's not really any different from the version that got G11'ed. I'm only seeing it being deleted twice at SnatchBot, even though it was nominated four times.  Where there other other pages that I missed?  If there were other pages (and so other spammers), that would mean there's a sockfarm that any admin would be happy to torch.  Ian.thomson (talk) 08:18, 9 March 2017 (UTC)


 * In the future, such cases are best reported at WP:ANI. Apart from blocking the offending user, an article can also be WP:SALTed. Tigraan Click here to contact me 12:30, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for that - I have added ANI to my Big Book of Magic Wikipedia Spells. --Gronk Oz (talk) 12:46, 9 March 2017 (UTC)


 * , in practice, if there have been three or more deletions in a short time period, it's likely that the next admin will block and/or salt anyway. If caps etc tweaks are used to hide the recreation, you could also contact one of the deleting admins. Jimfbleak -  talk to me?  14:11, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia
There is an entry about me (Peter Bellwood) in Wikipedia, but it is 10 years out of date. I have no idea who put it in, but until about 10 years ago it is accurate. How do I bring it up to date, especially with publications? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.171.193.111 (talk) 09:06, 9 March 2017 (UTC)


 * Thanks for asking about the article. You can get help in a few ways. You may ask for help by going to the Peter Bellwood article page. On that page click the "talk" tab at the top of the page, then click "new section" and write a message requesting editors to add the updated information, which you can show and must support with published references/citations (very important), either online or conventional. This indirect method of editing about oneself is preferable, because Wikipedia strongly discourages people from editing articles about themselves, as described in the conflict of interest guidance. Anything you want to add or change will need to be verifiable through published references, and not dependent on only your statement. You might also place a message on the Talk page of User:Wtmitchell, who created and expanded the article and seems to know a lot about Prof. Bellwood. You may also register an account and place Help Me (include the curly braces) on your account Talk page and describe your needs; that message will automatically attract attention from editors who can offer help. DonFB (talk) 11:54, 9 March 2017 (UTC)


 * Ditto: As you have a conflict of interest, the safest way is to place your suggestions (with references and links to them wheresoever possible) on the article's talk page. If you make it as easy as possible to provided referenced information (not your own recollections -as we need verifiability) then  other editors are more likely to  check them. Thus, updating the article. Hope this helps. I have the article on my watch list now, so maybe can give you further help with what it is we need.--Aspro (talk) 12:04, 9 March 2017 (UTC)


 * Finally, if you have a fairly good idea of what a necessary change would look like, go to the talk page (Talk:Peter Bellwood), start a new section, include the code at the top of the new section and describe your change in a "change X to Y" format with supporting references. This will get you a faster reply.  Tigraan Click here to contact me 12:08, 9 March 2017 (UTC)


 * Oh shucks. I should have suggested that but unless he has the support of a younger computer literate whizz kid, he may find adding the tag  harder than deciphering the Rosetta Stone. He shouldn't  worry though. Just start by adding requests to the talk page. We will add the necessary code/tags.--Aspro (talk) 22:36, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

question
How long does brain activity continue for after blood has been drained from the arms? felt _   friend  09:11, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Symbol move vote.svg This page is for questions about editing Wikipedia. Please consider asking this question at the Reference desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. You could always try  for an article related to the topic you want to know more about.  I hope this helps. - X201 (talk) 10:52, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Hello, to add to the above, I guess Reference desk/Science is manned by editors highly enthusiastic to answer such type of questions. Have fun. Lourdes  04:34, 12 March 2017 (UTC)

Updating and creating pages following a rebrand
Hello

On Monday (6th March), zanox rebranded to become Awin (press release here: https://www.awin.com/gb/news-and-events/awin-news/zanox-and-affiliate-window-rebrand-to-awin). We have found three zanox pages for Germany, Sweden and Poland:

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zanox https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zanox https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zanox

Please can you let me know how we can update/remove these pages and also create a new page with Awin?

Your help in this matter would be much appreciated.

Kind regards, Sarah — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.110.111.101 (talk) 09:12, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Hello and welcome to the English-speaking Wikipedia.
 * First, I have to point you to WP:PAID, a link about Wikipedia's policy concerning for-profit edition. If that request is part of your job, it must be disclosed per the terms of use of the Wikimedia Foundation that operates the various language Wikipedias.
 * The local Wikipedias are (relatively) independent projects; you will need to go separately to de, pl and sv wp to ask them and check their rules. On en-wp (here) changing the title of a page is called "moving" a page, and it is not done merely because a company decides to rebrand itself; what matters is the name independent sources use (it may or may not be the case on other wp).
 * The simplest way to ask for such an action is to go to the respective talk pages, located at de:Diskussion:Zanox, pl:Dyskusja:Zanox (yet to be created), and sv:Diskussion:Zanox, open a new section and state your request (if possible, in German, Polish and Swedish). If language issues arise, you can go to the respective "embassies" of those Wikipedias and state the request in English; those embassies are located at de:Wikipedia:Botschaft, pl:Wikipedia:Ambasada and sv:Wikipedia:Bybrunnen (no specific "embassy" on sv-wp).
 * Also, please WP:SIGN any future posts by typing four tildes  at the end.  Tigraan Click here to contact me 12:27, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
 * The German article has actually mentioned the new name since the day of the rebranding.[//de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Zanox&diff=163317267&oldid=162591763] PrimeHunter (talk) 22:18, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

Thecommish
Dear sirs I am mentioned in the article on Thecommish You have incorrectly labeled the reason why I resigned I have never been subject to any formal charges and have been cleared of any wrongdoing and I retired from city service after 31 years of service. Had I did anything wrong I would not be eligible for any pension. I was never fired for "unprofessional conduct" as this article portrays me. Please correct this or I will hired an attorney and seek damages Anthony Schembri — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.1.249.234 (talk) 13:07, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Editor has been warned about legal threats, and informed that they must be withdrawn or a block will follow Jimfbleak - talk to me?  14:05, 9 March 2017 (UTC)


 * I have deleted the unreferenced negative description from The Commish article unless a reliable source for the claim can be provided. WP:BLP applies. DonFB (talk) 14:07, 9 March 2017 (UTC)


 * Dear Anthony: the editors did not remove / warn based simply upon request; but because the content did not have a reliable source. WP cannot grant requests based on username claims of subject relationship; otherwise, any user / editor could claim to be the subject of an article. Second, you run the risk of being blocked yourself by making legal threats against WP. I kindly suggest removing the statement regarding the hiring of an attorney and seeking damages. Maineartists (talk) 14:17, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

Toni & Guy
How do I go about getting a page restored? There was a page on Toni & Guy hairdressing company but has since been deleted. Before I create a new one for my employer Toni Mascolo I want to see if the deleted page can be restored. Please let me know. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gleniboy75 (talk • contribs) 13:13, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
 * The article was deleted by at 05:20, June 11, 2015. You will need to discuss restoration with that admin. You have an obvious conflict of interest, and you should not be attempting to create an article for your employer anyway Jimfbleak -  talk to me?  14:00, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

Capitalization of article links in hatnotes
Should article links in hatnotes be capitalized, per WP:NCCAPS? (I ask because I just noticed that the article links in the hatnotes in the current version of [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Personal_knowledge_management&oldid=768365830 Personal knowledge management] are not capitalized, contra WP:NCCAPS; if this is incorrect then I will correct it, and I will correct other such errors that I may notice in the future.) Thanks, Biogeographist (talk) 13:52, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Hey Biogeographist. Convention on Wikipedia is that pretty much everything follows sentence case. The only major exception to this that I'm aware of is MOS:LCITEMS, which doesn't apply here. Timothy Joseph Wood  14:54, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks. That was my understanding, but lately I have been noticing hatnotes that have article links in all lower case, like the example I mentioned above. I will edit WP:Hatnote to say that article links in hatnotes should be sentence case. Biogeographist (talk) 15:34, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Biogeographist, for what it's worth, looking through the examples on HATNOTE, it looks like all of the examples in which they use lowercase article titles are examples of what not to do. For good measure, today's FA also follows the standard title capitalization (i.e., cap first word and proper nouns). Timothy Joseph Wood  15:47, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Right, article titles that are composition titles use title case, as mentioned in WP:NCCAPS. I [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Hatnote&diff=prev&oldid=769441527 edited WP:Hatnote]. Thanks, Biogeographist (talk) 15:59, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Shouldn't hatnotes simply display whatever the article displays at top, like Dog and other normal words with capital first letter, but iPhone (disambiguation) since that page uses lowercase? H2O redirects to Properties of water which says H2O (disambiguation) but maybe that should be H2O (disambiguation). I guess that's a discussion for Wikipedia talk:Hatnote. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:39, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
 * That is my understanding: capitalization per WP:NCCAPS, and not all lowercase as the hatnotes in [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Personal_knowledge_management&oldid=768365830 Personal knowledge management] were before I fixed them. Biogeographist (talk) 21:00, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

2017 Conference USA football season
Can You Fix the dead link on the article. 68.102.39.189 (talk) 17:03, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
 * I assume you mean for someone to create the article so you can expand it. I have done so with some short placeholder text.  See 2017 Conference USA football season.  Please edit it and expand it with referenced text, or it is likely to get deleted shortly.  You can use other similar articles as models, such as the 2017 Atlantic Coast Conference football season.  -- Jayron 32 17:08, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

PUBLIC SERVICE NOTIFICATION
How can someone that you want to hire,will know when to start working online? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hamad olatunde (talk • contribs)


 * Huh? Timothy Joseph Wood  18:36, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
 * If you mean Wikipedia editors then they are not hired. They are volunteers and just edit when they want to, unless their account is blocked to protect Wikipedia from disruption. There is no application procedure to become an editor. See also Who writes Wikipedia? PrimeHunter (talk) 18:46, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

Sarah Oppenheimer copy-paste question
Request for experienced eyes--I found this copy-paste situation between the Sarah Oppenheimer page (diff) and this site. What sent me checking for a copy vio in the first place was that the language sounded less encyclopedic and more like art world text, so when I found the exact language elsewhere I removed it from the WP entry--but now looking more closely at the edit history (in which that paragraph seems to have evolved organically over a period of years rather than copied in all at once), I'm thinking the site copied Wikipedia text rather than the other way around. I'd just revert myself, but to be sure I'm not adding back copy vio material, would someone mind having a look through to confirm it's all above board (and if yes please feel free to go ahead and revert me.) Thanks so much. Innisfree987 (talk) 21:11, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
 * The site definitely copied our article, specifically [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sarah_Oppenheimer&oldid=767837441 this] revision. Their text is identical to the lead except they removed the references and all whitespace at new paragraphs. They don't even have a space before starting a sentence which starts a new paragraph at us. Many of their other pages acknowledge they were copied from Wikipedia, e.g. https://theartstack.com/artist/irene-kopelman/about where they even copied a working section edit link to our article. I guess they have lots of user generated content and some users copy from Wikipedia with or without attribution and using different copying techniques. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:03, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for having a look . I definitely noticed the text was identical but I wanted to be sure I was understanding the edit history correctly that it was developed over time at Wikipedia, and then copied out, rather than copied into Wikipedia. If that seems correct, I'll put it back in the entry. Thanks! Innisfree987 (talk) 04:27, 10 March 2017 (UTC)
 * You may want to add backwardscopy to the article's talk page to prevent other folks from having to spend time doing this sort of investigatiion in the future. Deor (talk) 19:38, 10 March 2017 (UTC)