Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2017 May 11

= May 11 =

Wikiproject United States
I don't know who sorts articles by importance in the Wikiproject United States, but some really unimportant articles have been winding up as top-importance and high-importance. Someone please look at this section and move the articles into the correct importance category. Thank you--2601:640:4080:5960:CCF5:2698:8142:3A5E (talk) 04:06, 12 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Article importance is done manually one at a time, by individual editors, according to their understanding of the article and the requirements. There are thousands of articles involved, possibly hundreds or thousands of editors, and no one editor or bot assigned to the task. This request cannot be fulfilled. — Maile (talk) 11:38, 20 May 2017 (UTC)

Quote
Who chooses the quote of the day? Benjamin (talk) 05:12, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
 * I am not familiar with a "quote of the day" in Wikipedia - can you provide a link to where you saw it? --Gronk Oz (talk) 07:03, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
 * I get an email every day with article of the day, on this date, and quote of the day. Benjamin (talk) 07:05, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
 * You might be thinking about Wikiquote's "quote of the day", but that is not the same project as the English Wikipedia. Browsing that other site, I found wikiquote:Wikiquote:Quote_of_the_day which should answer your question. Tigraan Click here to contact me 08:21, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
 * @Benjamin: You must have subscribed to https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/daily-article-l which is linked on "By email" at Main Page. It says: "In each email, you will receive the English Language Wikipedia's featured article, which changes daily. You will also receive a few selected anniversaries as well as the word of the day from Wiktionary and the Quote of the day from Wikiquote, two sister projects of Wikipedia." It may be confusing that the same mail has content from different wikis. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:20, 11 May 2017 (UTC)

Please add bable boxes in the page "Maveeran Alagumuthu Kone"
I'm kanna00003. I just created a page for a the freedom fighter named Maveeran Alagumuthu Kone. I included all the informations about his on that page. I just like to create the bable boxes for him so that I will try to include his picture. So I kindly requesting Wikipedia senior editors to create the bable boxes for that page or else guide me to create the bable boxes. Thanks and regards Kanna000003 (talk) 05:20, 11 May 2017 (UTC)Kanna000003


 * Well, I'm afraid I do not understand what you mean by 'bable boxes'. The word 'babel' suggests information about languages spoken by a specific Wikipedian (like at my userpage: User:CiaPan), and often also wikipedian's privileges, skills and interests (see e.g. user pages of User:Salix alba or User:Omni_Flames) – but I think that's not what you are asking. Do you mean some infobox, similar to those in Alexander the Great, Richard Montgomery or Marcus Atilius Regulus articles? --CiaPan (talk) 13:05, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
 * I have misread 'bable' as 'babel', so the whole reply above is irrelevant. And I still have no idea what 'bable boxes' are... --CiaPan (talk) 07:17, 12 May 2017 (UTC)
 * I expect what is being asked for is an infobox. I have added one and made other changes. If you do add an image Kanna000003, the procedure is explained here (to upload the image) and here (to add it to the infobox). Make sure you are not breaching any Copyright in using the image here Noyster (talk),  09:53, 12 May 2017 (UTC)

Delete a section
The early life section of ths Lukas Graham page https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lukas_Graham relates to Eminem not Lukas Graham. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RebeccaKTT (talk • contribs) 07:09, 11 May 2017 (UTC)


 * There had been some vandalism to the page which has now been corrected. Thanks for pointing this out. Eagleash (talk) 07:19, 11 May 2017 (UTC)

services, TASO annual report 2010

 * User:197.157.18.41 has now overcome the cite error message in The AIDS Support Organization. I have posted to the user's talk page suggesting creation of an account Noyster (talk),  08:49, 11 May 2017 (UTC)

Gallery from foreign pictures
Dear Editors! I need your help. I can't make a gallery in my article. I'd like to use pictures from the Hungarian WP. They don't appear in the English version. What do I wrong? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attila_Meszlenyi#Career Thanks Bokorember (talk) 09:32, 11 May 2017 (UTC) Dear ! Thank you for your fast help. The copyright questions I've done, when I made the Hungraian version of the article. Thank You! Bokorember (talk) 07:49, 12 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Hello . The problem is attempting to link the Hungarian WP images (e.g. :hu:File:Meszlényi_Attila_Erdőszéli_tisztás.jpg) on en-WP does not work. If the pictures are on Wikimedia Commons, as File:Meszlényi_Attila_Erdőszéli_tisztás.jpg is, you can drop the :hu: and it will work; I fixed three images by this edit. If they are not, check the copyright stuff on the hu-WP file pages, and transfer them if allowed to Commons. Tigraan Click here to contact me 12:03, 11 May 2017 (UTC)


 * Hello, I boldly replaced a wiki-table of images with a more standard  : Special:Diff/779993716. Please review the result. --CiaPan (talk) 08:27, 12 May 2017 (UTC)

Add new content
I have an Wikipedia account but I would like to add my artist to be listed in Wikiedia. Can you tell me how to do it — Preceding unsigned comment added by GeorgesHayekArt (talk • contribs) 14:38, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. I have left a welcome message on your talk page that has a lot of helpful links, including one to Your first article, which will guide you through the process of writing your first article.  I would encourage you to read it, and the other links in that welcome message.
 * That said, I am concerned by the way you phrased your request. You said, "I would like to add my artist to be listed..." What do you mean by "my"?  Is the artist you wish to write an article on your employer?  If so you should read our guidelines on managing a a conflict of interest. If you are considering adding an article on your employer the best advice is generally don't.  Likewise, if you yourself are the artist you are wishing to add I would say the best advice is don't add yourself.  On the other hand if by "my artist" you mean an artist who you are familiar with, whose work you are fond of, or something, there is less of a problem.
 * No matter what though, the most important thing when you go to write an article, especially one about a living person, is to back up your statements by citing your sources, and making sure there are at least 3 sources that are about the person, but were not written by the person or anyone who employs them or is employed by them or is affiliated with them in some other way.
 * If you need further help or have questions, you can ask here, or you can ask me at my talk page or you can ask at the teahouse, which is specially designed to help newcomers. ~  ONUnicorn (Talk&#124;Contribs) problem solving 15:11, 11 May 2017 (UTC)

'Better source needed'
While copyediting the Barabar Caves article, I realized that the broken references that I was trying to fix were old photographs from the British Library that were being used as sources. In most cases, the material being referenced in Barabar Caves is the captions, and not the photographs themselves. For example, a photo of a cave entrance with the caption 'date back to the 3rd century BC, Maurya period and represent some of the earliest example of rock-cut architecture in India' is used as a source for both the date and the 'earliest example'. There is no indication where the information in the captions came from. I haven't been able to find better sources, and I don't have access to the offline British Library, being on the wrong continent. I was hesitant to remove the sources altogether, so I tagged them with 'better source needed'.

Several related questions: first, was this the correct approach?; second, what is the general approach to using old photographs/captions as sources?; third, should the 'better source' tag go inside or outside the reference tags? Thanks, Leschnei (talk) 18:18, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Let's ignore the issue of the sources potentially being outdated, because assessing that issue requires you to be familiar with literature in the field. Aside from that issue, are these photos-and-captions in a reliable publication of a sort?  Presumably the British Library holds tons of unreliable books as well as reliable books; if the citation doesn't give you enough information to assess this at all (which is what it sounds like from your description), you used the right tag; if you can tell that it's unreliable, use rs.  Basically, the photos can't generally be used as sources (unless of course you're just providing a basic description of the scene; with a building photo, you could say something like "It is a weatherboarded two-story building with a hip roof and an off-center entrance" if those elements are visible), but the captions should be treated like any other text from the publication of which they form a component.  Finally, I've seen this template (and others, such as page needed or rs) both inside the ref tags and outside.  My preference is to put them inside the tags (they're not particularly helpful unless you're simultaneously looking at the citation, in my opinion), but I doubt that one could say that there's consensus on where to put them.  Nyttend (talk) 22:21, 11 May 2017 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the very thorough answer; that helps. I'll leave the 'better source' tags there. Maybe somebody else can fix it up. Leschnei (talk) 23:00, 11 May 2017 (UTC)

Question about duplicate pages and disambiguation
Hello,

I'm in the process of creating a page for marketing technology and have a few questions.

First off, I want to have a page for Martech (abbreviated form of marketing technology), but I'm worried this will count as duplicate content as they are essentially the same thing. Once I've made the marketing technology entry, how do I go about making the martech entry and have it simply redirect to marketing technology? Or is that even the right way to go about it? I read the various Help articles and couldn't quite figure it out.

Lastly, there's a defunct company named Martech who owns this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martech. Is it possible to disambiguate that from Martech - short for marketing technology?

Thanks again! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jshieldsmith (talk • contribs) 18:52, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
 * To make a redirect, you would type: #REDIRECT Marketing technology on the page you wanted to redirect.
 * As for the existing Martech article, you are incorrect to say they own the page. There is an article about them on that page. The best way to handle that situation would be to use a hatnote, as can be seen at the top of pages like Isaac Stern.  For the Martech situation, you would put something like:  which would produce: . ~  ONUnicorn (Talk&#124;Contribs) problem solving 19:37, 11 May 2017 (UTC)

Counter Vandalism Unit Academy
Hello, I am struggling to use the counter vandalism unit academy. It seems that no-one wants to take me on. I have contact four people in their discussion pages, and they haven't answered in an acceptable time. How do I get this situation resolved?

Also, I have put my name forward as an adopter as part of Wikipedia's adoption system. Why is no one contacting me to become an adoptee of mines? Please help? Pablothepenguin (talk) 20:00, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
 * You should reach out to a user wanting to be adopted rather than waiting to be asked.  See Category:Wikipedians_seeking_to_be_adopted_in_Adopt-a-user.  RudolfRed (talk) 20:10, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
 * If you check the contributions of those you asked it appears that they have not been on since the last week of April. I don't believe "no-one wants to take" you on. I think they just have not been on to respond.  Gtstricky Talk or C 20:16, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Done that now, most people on that category page have not been active since 2015, how does that work? Pablothepenguin (talk) 20:34, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
 * My idea would be to put a question on the talk page of the academy. I think that will attract some of the active participants that can point you in the right direction.  Gtstricky Talk or C 21:48, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
 * I have now done that. Pablothepenguin (talk) 22:40, 11 May 2017 (UTC)