Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2017 May 22

= May 22 =

Email or Contact Information
How would I get an email or contact information for Tina Knowles Lawson? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:6000:D145:9400:4857:D50F:BD60:F50D (talk) 05:29, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
 * This Help Desk is for questions about editing Wikipedia. Try asking at the Reference Desk.  Rojomoke (talk) 10:59, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Seth RIch -
Heads up here - the post you have published is politically motivated. Do not publish it. There is a lot more to this story. Seth very probably leaked the DNC info to Wikileaks. We know the leaks did not come from Russia. How do we know? Assange said so. He is a man of integrity. Evidence points to Seth RIch as the source. Do not tarnish your site by printing a cover-up as truth. You have your reputation to protect. Additional info and sources:

Seth Richs reddit posts are now being deleted. The story about what happened to him when he arrived in the hospital - a eyewitness report by a resident doctor has been deleted -

014 the fake Russian narrative was in the works focused around events in Ukraine..

I'm sure even before that in some ways, but I don't remember the stories..

2009, Russia and China, along with Iran and some other nations started serious discussions about finding an alternative to the US Dollar as the Global Reserve Currency.. basically cutting out the American banking oligarchy's ability to "skim off the top" over international trade between nations..

2012, another round of talks between Russia and China, with a few more interested nations exploring the idea..

Following those meetings, over the next couple years, Russia and China work out agreements and begin trading with each other in their own currencies.. Russia starts selling natural gas to various European countries and allowing them to pay in Rubles.. US banksters highly pissed. Media smear campaign begins to scale up over events in Ukraine.. ridiculous amounts of skullduggery and unfounded accusations engaged in by Political and Media talking heads.. all while Hillary is selling 20% of US Uranium stocks to Russian business consortiums in exchange for a $700,000 bribe..

This whole thing has been engineered for consumption to re-ignite the Cold War, preparing the ground work for a potential third world war as the corrupt Western banking elites face the first real threat to their global hegemony since Kennedy attempted to put partial control of US currency back in the hands of Treasury instead of the private Federal Reserve."

2014 the fake Russian narrative was in the works focused around events in Ukraine..

I'm sure even before that in some ways, but I don't remember the stories..

2009, Russia and China, along with Iran and some other nations started serious discussions about finding an alternative to the US Dollar as the Global Reserve Currency.. basically cutting out the American banking oligarchy's ability to "skim off the top" over international trade between nations..

2012, another round of talks between Russia and China, with a few more interested nations exploring the idea..

Following those meetings, over the next couple years, Russia and China work out agreements and begin trading with each other in their own currencies.. Russia starts selling natural gas to various European countries and allowing them to pay in Rubles.. US banksters highly pissed. Media smear campaign begins to scale up over events in Ukraine.. ridiculous amounts of skullduggery and unfounded accusations engaged in by Political and Media talking heads.. all while Hillary is selling 20% of US Uranium stocks to Russian business consortiums in exchange for a $700,000 bribe..

This whole thing has been engineered for consumption to re-ignite the Cold War, preparing the ground work for a potential third world war as the corrupt Western banking elites face the first real threat to their global hegemony since Kennedy attempted to put partial control of US currency back in the hands of Treasury instead of the private Federal Reserve." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Polstorm (talk • contribs) 05:46, 22 May 2017 (UTC)


 * . If you have concerns about the accuracy of an article, the article's talk page is the place to bring it up. But note that Wikipedia articles summarise what reliable published sources say about a subject. If the sources are in disagreement, the article should reflect that. But there is no place in Wikipedia for advocacy or argumentation. --ColinFine (talk) 11:37, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Spencer Matthews
Refs 1 and 6 are no good.203.39.128.90 (talk) 07:14, 22 May 2017 (UTC)


 * I have improved the citation of ref 6, and restored the named ref whose absence was causing the error message associated with ref 2 (not 1). But I wouldn't regard either as a reliable source. Maproom (talk) 08:11, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
 * I see that the article has two references numbered 1 (and did have before my edits). I have no idea how this is achieved. Maproom (talk) 08:16, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
 * It is achieved by grouping: the second  in a lead section has an attribute , so it has a separate number 1 in its own group of references. --CiaPan (talk) 08:23, 22 May 2017 (UTC) I've added a subsection to References to make things more clear. --CiaPan (talk) 08:25, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the explanation. I see that the single reference in the "autobiography" section is the same as ref 2 in the main section. That accounts for the disappearance of the "named reference". I've now redone all other refs to this work, to explicitly refer to the autobiography. (I'm not confident I've done all this in the best way. If anyone has a better idea, I shan't complain.) Maproom (talk) 10:53, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Archive a web source
If I want to archive a web-based source so it will always be available in future, what can I do? Siuenti (씨유엔티) 11:05, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi, you could read the instructions given at Link rot. Thanks. Lourdes  14:18, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Spam classification
Hi, I wrote an article about a record producer and it was knocked back as Spam when I submitted it. At first, I had some YouTube links as references which it did not like, so I took them out but it still categorized the article as spam.The producer I was writing about has worked with important artists and is continuing to work with international artists and he has independent articles written about him in Billboard magazine. Is it possible to have this reviewed? Thank you.

Linda — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lindagleeson9 (talk • contribs) 11:39, 22 May 2017 (UTC)


 * Your contribution record shows no edits apart from this question. Perhaps you could provide a wikilink to the article in question?  --David Biddulph (talk) 11:51, 22 May 2017 (UTC)


 * Hello, . Wikipedia articles should be based almost entirely on what independent published sources say about the subject: Wikipedia has very little interest in what the subject says, or even in what they have produced, except insofar as independent sources discuss it. If there are indeed indepedent sources in Billboard (truly independent, not based on interviews or press releases) then an article can be written based only on what those independent commentators have said. Please read your first article, and I suggest using the articles for creation process, to work on a draft and then submit it for review. --ColinFine (talk) 13:22, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for your help. I can't seem to find the original article, I will have to start again! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lindagleeson9 (talk • contribs) 12:18, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
 * The account User:Lindagleeson9 has not saved it but if you give the name as well as you remember it then we can search for pages saved without logging in. Or do you have another account? PrimeHunter (talk) 13:06, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

need help with IP
2605:6000:EF43:8500:8D1D:42A:EA65:9EF5 has been warned by:
 * GiantSnowman
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 * both for Andrew Mwesigwa article


 * Hayman30
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 * for History of Uganda article


 * I have left
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 * for Democratic Republic of the Congo Ebola outbreak 2017

_the IP has not answered any post on his talk page (he reverted a warning by another editor(administrator))

_ and ip has reverted me two times at Democratic Republic of the Congo Ebola outbreak 2017

_what do I do? thanks--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 11:55, 22 May 2017 (UTC)


 * You may put a notification at WP:ANI. But you may also want to read WP:ANI advice first. --CiaPan (talk) 12:29, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
 * thank you--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 12:33, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Both username and password lost
Hi. How can I recover my forgotten username, in order to get help with recovering my password, which is also lost (!) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.139.216.166 (talk) 12:31, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
 * If the account has stored an email address then enter it at Special:PasswordReset. It it hasn't then you cannot access the account even if you recover the username. You can just create a new account. If you forgot the username then keeping the name doesn't sound important. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:45, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
 * If you forgot your username, you can check the histories of articles that you edited if any. Ruslik_ Zero 14:36, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

CAN MH2 SOUNDCRAFT CONSOLE RECORD LIVE
I SAW A MIDI PORT IN THIS MIXER HOW DO I CONNECT TO THE COMPUTER AND IS IT COMPATIBLE WITH CUBASE — Preceding unsigned comment added by 154.73.36.156 (talk) 13:41, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Hello, this is the desk for help in editing Wikipedia. Wikipedia's reference desk may have some information or enter your query into Google where a search may reveal an online help site with more information. Good luck. Eagleash (talk) 13:47, 22 May 2017 (UTC)


 * P computing.svg This page is for questions about using Wikipedia. Please consider asking this question at the Computing reference desk. They specialize in answering computer questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link and ask away. You could always try  for an article related to the topic you want to know more about.  I hope this helps. ~  ONUnicorn (Talk&#124;Contribs) problem solving 13:49, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Database query error
Getting the following error when trying to edit an article: A database query error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software.[WSL4FwpAAEQAABNCodgAAADR] 2017-05-22 14:39:36: Fatal exception of type "Wikimedia\Rdbms\DBQueryError" prokaryotes (talk) 14:40, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Worked now after waiting a couple minutes. prokaryotes (talk) 14:47, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

List of Historically Black Colleges and Universities -- Correction needed for Delaware State University founding name
This pertains to Wikipedia's List of historically black colleges and universities.

Concerning the HBCU entry for Delaware State University:

Under the column for "Comment" (which list the original name or affiliation of the school), it lists Delaware State University's founding name as the State College for Colored Student. Some recent research in the enabling state legislation that established the college reveals that, although long thought to be the 1891 original name, that is not correct. According to the enacted state legislation (see Laws of Delaware, Chapter 119, page 249), the title of the law gives the correct name -- An Act to establish the Delaware College for Colored Students (adopted May 15, 1891). That is the only full institutional name given in the legislation; subsequent second references in the proceeding sections of legislation are "the College." Because there was already a white Delaware College, it was decided after the legislation was enacted that having two Delaware Colleges -- one for whites and one for blacks -- could be confusing. (The white school was located in Newark, Del., and is now known as the University of Delaware; the black school was located just outside of the state capital of Dover). To address that concern, new legislation was passed and enacted early 1893 (The Laws of Delaware, Chapter 635, page 743) that changed the name of the black school to the "State College for Colored Students." Some recent research on the original legislation revealed the correct founding name. Prior to that, no University officials or alumni appears to have been aware of the original name given in the founding legislation.

To further substantiate, the names of DSU by years:

1891-1893: the Delaware College for Colored Students 1893-1947: the State College for Colored Students 1947-1993: Delaware State College 1993-Present: Delaware State University

In summary, the correct founding name of Delaware State University should be the "Delaware College for Colored Students."

Thanks in advance for your attention to this error.

Carlos Holmes, director of News Services and University historian. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.228.140.165 (talk) 15:34, 22 May 2017‎ (UTC)
 * Mr. Holmes. Thank you for communicating this way. The page List of historically black colleges and universities page reflects what is on the Delaware State University page, (down in the history section which references https://www.desu.edu/history page which does not exist and should almost certainly change to referencing https://www.desu.edu/about/history ). *That* page at DSU doesn't show the change in 1893. However the references to the Laws of Delaware should be enough. However the discussion on this should be on Talk:Delaware State University and I'll copy it there, OK?Naraht (talk) 16:02, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Copied to Talk:Delaware State University.Naraht (talk) 17:54, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

comment about the Amos Larkins deletes
To whom it may concern My Father Amos Larkins is well know for his contribution to the genre of Hip hop and miami Bass it seems as though no matter what he doesn't your admins discredit him by saying his post are propaganda or this is not dont right or that is not done right and no matter what we do to try to do it right and work with Wikipedia some admin comes up with a different reason to delete his article this is so sad that a man who created and pioneers a music genre (literally ) has more trouble to get on wikipeada than some lesser important articles — Preceding unsigned comment added by Redrabbitiam (talk • contribs) 18:42, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
 * According to the note at Amos Larkins it was deleted because the was only one autor and that editor requested it be deleted However, that does not match the note on your talk page.  , can you please clarify what happened to this article? RudolfRed (talk) 19:01, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Amos Larkin's
Why was this removed. Please re add — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.62.244.77 (talk) 18:53, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Amos Larkins II Wrongful Deletion "PLEASE REINSTATE!"
This page is being wrongly attacked by someone for obviously malicious reasons. Amos Larkins II is a musical legend and a pioneer in the bass music industry of South Florida. He is a real person with a proven and researchable track record. His discography is recorded, factual and verifiable. His page is not promotion it simply defines who he is and his accomplishments. However someone is maliciouslyb stalking his page and submitting entirely unwarranted, random request for requests for deletion.

Please verify and reinstate this page and please notify the abuser to cease and desist. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Musicprogirl1 (talk • contribs) 19:08, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

People Maliciously and/or Randomly Deleting Profiles
There should be guidelines to prevent "real" pages from being randomly deleted. Too many people create fake profiles just to cause havok to others. Musicprogirl1 (talk) 19:24, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
 * , there are policies that keep articles from being deleted. It all starts with WP:DELETION.  No one has maliciously attacked the page.  If you think a page has been deleted that shouldnt have been you can ask for the deletion to be reviewed at WP:Deletion review.  ~ GB fan 19:31, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
 * There have been articles at two different names, Amos Larkins and Amos Larkins II. Amos Larkins was initially created in 2005 and sat until 2010 when it was deleted for being unreferenced.  There was also a comment that the subject was offended by maintenance tags.  It was created again yesterday and the last note left by the editor who created the article,, said; "Please delete this article for i have no idea what i did wrong everything i wrote about my father is true and can be proven as fact so i think it is totally unfair for 75% of facts be deleted. please except my apologies for any wrong doing but i have no idea whats going on here thank you for the Wikipedia service i don't understand thank you"  After that it was deleted at their request.  Amos Larkins II was also initially created in 2005.  It was deleted initally as a copy of Amos Larkins.  Today it has been created and deleted twice.  The first time it was created by  and was written in a highly promotional manner.  As an example the last line was "Nevertheless, Amos Larkins, is without a doubt, the undeniable godfather of Miami bass."  The next time you started it and never said what was significant about Mr Larkins.  I do not see that anything malicious has happened here.  ~ GB fan 19:47, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
 * There was also a third title Amos LarkinsII, and a deletion discussion for two of the titles at WP:Articles for deletion/Amos Larkins II. --David Biddulph (talk) 19:52, 22 May 2017 (UTC)


 * History of the page Amos Larkins:-
 * Started at 20:46, 17 June 2005 by User:Wathiik
 * Then nearly 40 edits.
 * At 21:37, 29 October 2010 deleted by User:JzG : "Unreferenced WP:BLP, subject offended by maintenance tags."
 * Starting at 14:42, 21 May 2017, 14 edits:
 * 1 by User:Redrabbitiam
 * then 5 by User:I dream of horses
 * then 6 by User:Redrabbitiam, including at 14:52, 21 May 2017 adding a tag.
 * then 1 by User:Dorintosh
 * then 1 by User:Redrabbitiam.
 * At 04:34, 22 May 2017 it still had the db-repost tag, so I deleted it.
 * Page Amos Larkins II has been deleted 5 times, but never by me, and see Articles for deletion/Amos Larkins II.
 * Page Amos LarkinsII had 13 edits in May and June 2005. It was deleted twice, but not by me.
 * Do you want me to undelete any or all of Amos Larkins, Amos Larkins II, Amos LarkinsII, so that non-admins can read them including their old edits? Anthony Appleyard (talk) 22:10, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Note User:Amos Larkins and User:Redrabbitiam have now been blocked for sock puppetry. Eagleash (talk) 22:31, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

2017 Army Black Knights football schedule
What no article Come on move it to the main article There's a reference I put it in and it needs to be moved now and stop being lazy. 2600:8803:7A00:976A:D1CA:2E30:6683:E8F7 (talk) 19:38, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Are you asking about Draft:2017 Army Black Knights team? ~ GB fan 19:49, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
 * The schedule is in the article here: Army_Black_Knights_football. If that is not what you are looking for, please clarify.  RudolfRed (talk) 20:19, 22 May 2017 (UTC)


 * I am finding it increasingly difficult to remain CIVIL when some random person keeps on repeatdedly coming here and demanding I do something to some article I've never heard of about some foreign game that I have no knowledge and less interest in, and calling me names when I don't instantly jump to do whatever it is the poster can't be bothered to learn how to do for themselves. --ColinFine (talk) 22:04, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
 * , ignore it. I've advised the editor.  Lourdes  01:22, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
 * There have been many requests from this same editor on similar topics. A number have been similarly uncivil, such as Help desk/Archives/2017 April 3 and Help desk/Archives/2016 December 6. --David Biddulph (talk) 01:43, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Maybe we should tell them to create an account and stop depending on others to do his work for him... -- Jayron 32 15:00, 23 May 2017 (UTC)