Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2017 November 17

= November 17 =

National Socialism
To whom it may concern,

I'd like permission to update the National Socialism page on Wikipedia. An in depth study of the movement quite clearly reveals it to be a predominantly leftist movement, which is not reflected on the page. I'm happy to provide references and intend to uphold the highest standards of academic accuracy.

Kind regards,

Oliver — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.166.160.213 (talk) 01:01, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
 * The Nazism article (to which National Socialism is redirected) is semi-protected. that means that it can't be edited except by registered users who are autoconfirmed.  So create yourself a user id, make ten edits on other articles and wait four days, and you will be free to make changes.  However, you will need to find very good sources if you want to claim that Nazism is a left-wing movement, when general consensus is quite clearly the opposite.  Make sure that everything you write is backed by reliable sources, and take care not to indulge in original research.  Rojomoke (talk) 03:46, 17 November 2017 (UTC)


 * And, Oliver, since (as you must realise) such a change would be contentious, I would strongly advise you to discuss it first on the article's talk page. While you are permitted to make the change (once you have an autoconfirmed account), it is almost certain that somebody would immediately revert your change (according to the WP:BRD policy) and then you would need to discuss it if you wanted to take it further anyway. --ColinFine (talk) 13:11, 17 November 2017 (UTC)


 * In fact, you need to read carefully through Talk:Nazism and all its archives before you do anything else. You will see that this question has been discussed repeatedly (not always as respectfully as one would hope, but it is a very emotive subject), and unless you bring forward something new, with reliable sources, I predict that you will not succeed in changing the consensus. --ColinFine (talk) 13:26, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

Side-by-side images?
Is it possible to have right-justified images side-by-side? For example, the two photos in the 'Gerald Ford' section here? (The excessive white-space is annoying) — 2606:A000:4C0C:E200:C9A:4B44:2E28:1611 (talk) 06:34, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
 * ✅ - X201 (talk) 09:28, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks -- much better! 2606:A000:4C0C:E200:C9A:4B44:2E28:1611 (talk) 13:45, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

Contested deletion
Hello, I am contacting you regarding my article submission: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft_talk:DevOps_Transformation

The claim was that we used copyrighted material from https://dzone.com/articles/is-devops-a-holy-grail. In fact, we own the rights to this article. I have made the requested adjustments.

Can you please publish our page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Devopsjedi (talk • contribs) 13:12, 17 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Hello, . I'm afraid that, like many people, you have mistaken Wikipedia for a social media site or business directory. It is not. It is an encyclopaedia. Its articles are neutrally written summaries of material that has already been published in reliable sources. It does not publish original research, how to guides or any kind of promotional material.
 * If you own the material, then you have the power to license it (either publicly, or in an email to the Wikimedia Foundation) in a way that Wikipedia will accept, so that (as is Wikipedia's mission) anybody in the world can reuse the material for any purpose, commercial or not, as long as they attribute it. If you wish to do that, please see WP:donating copyright material for how to do that. Unless that is done, copyright material will be removed from Wikipedia.
 * But I advise you against doing that in this case. Hardly any of the material is appropriate for a Wikipedia article. Please read WP:NOT and WP:YFA. --ColinFine (talk) 14:03, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

Status of Article in Review
Hello,

I am writing to check the status of an article created for Dr. Aaron Lobel, Founder and President of America Abroad Media. We were told this article could be in review for up to six months. Could you please advise if this is still in review and what the status is?

Thank you, Mwamee (talk) 16:15, 17 November 2017 (UTC)


 * The content of Draft:Aaron Lobel was deleted as a copyright infringement, so will not be reviewed. You have not made any other edits under your user name above, but are you ?  Do you have any connection with America Abroad Media?    D b f i r s   16:42, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Hello, please could you provide a link to the page concerned as so far I've not found Dr. Lobel on Wikipedia. A page of the same name has twice been deleted here, (the last time nearly 2 years ago). Having said that, if a new page was created which addressed the previous issues, then the review process usually has quite a backlog... 6 months though is excessive in my experience. There is unfortunately no set order in which pages are selected for review. Also, you say 'we'... what do you mean by this? Wikipedia accounts may not be shared, nor can they represent any organisation. Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 16:46, 17 November 2017 (UTC)


 * You should also be aware that articles cannot be created "for" anyone. Wikipedia has articles about people who are notable in the Wikipedia sense, but the subjects of articles have no control over these articles (see WP:own, though they are invited to point out any errors on the talk page).    D b f i r s   20:48, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

How do I know if my article has been created?
I created an article for "Calcbench, Inc." using the Article Wizard. I clicked on "save changes" but did not receive conformation that what I created was actually submitted for other Wikipedia users to review. I have read there is a wait time of potentially 4 or more weeks before I'll know if my article was accepted but how do I first know if it was submitted correctly? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Calcbench (talk • contribs) 16:55, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Hello, the page is not currently submitted for review. If you consider that it is ready for you to do so, you can place  at the top of the page. I would not recommend that you do so as the page is not suitable for the encyclopedia as it stands. I think it would almost certainly be deleted as 'promotional'. Wikipedia relies on what has been written in independent reliable sources about a subject and has little, if any, interest in what a subject has to say about itself or posts in social media (including Linkedin). Also your user name would be of concern. Wiki accounts may not be shared or represent an organisation. You should also read WP:COI and WP:PAID and make any necessary disclosures. Also WP:ORG, WP:YFA and WP:REFB. Thank you. Sorry to not be more encouraging. Eagleash (talk) 17:41, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Note OP subsequently blocked. Eagleash (talk) 19:26, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

Philthy Fresh 3
Can you move the Philthy Fresh 3 album article from the Talk page to the draft page please. 68.102.39.189 (talk) 17:18, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
 * ✅. Maproom (talk) 21:52, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

Tom Chetwynd
I would like to add the author

Tom Chetwynd wh has various books published ie.

Dictionarty for Dreamers, Routeledge 2017

Zen and the Kingdom of Heaven - published by Routeledge

How do I do this thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C5:C702:8500:D41F:EE76:E816:24F5 (talk) 18:07, 17 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Hello, IP user. Creating a new article is one of the harder tasks on Wikipedia, but if you are interested in doing so, please start by reading your first article. Please be aware that how many books a person has published is of little relevance in determining whether they are WP;notable enough for a Wikipedia article about them. What matters is if there is substantial material about them in independent reliable sources on which an article can be based. --ColinFine (talk) 19:57, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

Why was Draft:Gerard Edery deleted???
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Gerard_Edery&action=edit&redlink=1

Hi, I'm working with a company called TruthInAD on building a Wikipedia page for our client Gerard Edery.

The draft page we were working on was deleted by Wikipedia for "unambiguous copyright infringement of http://www.gerardedery.com/biography." We have been hired by Mr Edery to build this Wikipedia page and use the biographical information from his personal website. This is not copyright infringement.

Furthermore, we had not yet published this wiki page - it was only a draft and a work in progress. I don't understand why any content from an unpublished rough draft would be deleted...

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Gerard_Edery&action=edit&redlink=1

Please explain and please reinstate the page so we can continue working on it.

Thanks, Eric — Preceding unsigned comment added by TruthInADWiki (talk • contribs) 18:16, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
 * The page was deleted as promotional and because of the copyright violations you have already mentioned. A draft that is promotional would not necessarily be deleted but may well be rejected at review. Copyright though, is something that Wikipedia has a very firm policy on. Anything copied from elsewhere on the web is likely to be a copy-vio and the fact that the material is about your 'client' does not make a difference. The copyright probably lies with whoever authored the content on the website and it would have to be released to Wikipedia in order for it to be used in the encyclopedia. Please see WP:DONATE in this respect. You might also like to read WP:CV and WP:C. As you have declared that Edery is your client, you should also read WP:COI and WP:PAID and make the necessary disclosures. This is not optional... it be complied with. If you have not already done so, please also read WP:YFA, WP:RS and WP:REFB. Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 19:01, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Note Subsequently found had been discussed at OP's talk page...and editor is now blocked as only promotional. Eagleash (talk) 19:03, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

Fixing misspelling on map
The word "Caliphate" is misspelled on the of the original, is there a way to fix that? Regards - Swazzo (talk) 20:22, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes: I downloaded the file, fixed the spelling with a text editor, and uploaded the new version. Your browser may have cached the old version, so you may have to bypass your browser cache to see the fix - I forgot to do this, and got confused... -- John of Reading (talk) 20:33, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

Much appreciated! Thank you. Swazzo (talk) 20:46, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

Flags on page - unable to communicate with users
Hello, I am the major contributor to a page for https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_Tate

Unfortunately, I am unfamiliar with the complexities of the platform, i.e. don't have a good understanding about how to communicate through the talk page. Not sure where to post replies, etc. I have posted responses to the users who have tagged the pages but have not gotten replies and am unclear what the issue is and how to resolve it. Could very much use some help. Someone removed the a list from the page. Would like to have help with how to best assemble a list - best format, content. It is a minimal content page. I am the major contributor and have tried to follow proper protocols to make sure content had the proper references.

Can you assist me to fix the problem and remove the warnings from the page? Cheri Brown (talk) 21:19, 17 November 2017 (UTC)


 * I see that on the article's talk page you have requested that the article be moved to a draft, I have done that. Maproom (talk) 21:59, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

Hello, I did not make that request. I am trying to resolve the issues with the page as it was posted. Someone removed a list from the page and also posted tags. I need help to understand why the list was removed but the tags where not removed. Please help remove tags and re-post pageCheri Brown (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 22:05, 17 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Please note that CB has also asked about this at Teahouse. I am not complaining as I think CB is trying to get as much info as possible. I just want to make sure that those responding don't wind up giving conflicting answers. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 22:17, 17 November 2017 (UTC)


 * : you wrote "I used the wizard and followed the instruction to post this as a draft. If I have submitted it as a final, I apologize", so I moved it to draft. I failed to notice that you wrote that back in March. However, it would be best to try to address the problems described by the warning messages before it's moved back to article space again. Maproom (talk) 22:23, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Again! The mention of a draft at the TP was in a post from four-and-a-half years ago. There is also a thread at WP:COIN. I composed a detailed reply to CB but got an edit conflict with Maproom's post and cancelled it. Basically, said don't be alarmed (as stated in a post at another editor's TP). Tags are not a criticism but an alert to other editors and a caution to the reader. Discussion to identify where cites are needed and then adding them should help with removal of the tags. Also if there a connection to the subject, please read WP:COI and make the necessary disclosures. Eagleash (talk) 22:27, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

I just wrote a reply but seems to have disappeared, at least I can't find it. I did not ask for the post to be moved to a draft. This must have been from years ago. Not current any way. I know this artist but do not get paid by the artist. The content of the article is based on information from newspaper articles, catalogues essays, magazine articles etc. that have been noted in the references. I understood before this exhibition list was deleted that the list did not conform - thus resulted in it being removed. This is fair enough but doesn't help me to understand why there are still issues with content that has references. Also This is not intended as a promo piece. But rather is a page created to provide some basic information about a living artist currently creating artworks/movies in Canada. Any help on this page would be greatly appreciated! Cheri Brown (talk) 22:54, 17 November 2017 (UTC)