Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2017 November 9

= November 9 =

What rule/guideline exist for photo albums in College articles?
1) Should these types of photo albums/collections exist in college articles? All of these schools have sub-articles for notable people, so why should the main school article be flooded with photos?
 * Harvard_University
 * University_of_Kansas
 * University_of_Florida
 * University_of_Minnesota
 * University_of_Iowa
 * Louisiana_State_University

2) What wikipedia rules/guidelines exist for these types of photo collections? What is the hard limit for numbers of photos? How do we decide if specific photos should be included or not included?

3) How do we keep these things from getting out of control? • Sbmeirow  •  Talk  • 04:02, 9 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Hello, your first question can be better answered if taken up on the talk page of the respective articles. To your second question, Wikipedia's gallery image use policy supports such agglomeration of images when they are relevant to context. You can read the same to understand the issue better. There is no hard limit for numbers of images; the specific query on how many and which images should be used, should be taken up on the talk page of the respective article. To your third question, my response is the same. Take it one article at a time and discuss on the respective talk pages. Warmly,  Lourdes  05:53, 9 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the reply. If ONE and ONLY ONE article was doing it, then yes I should be asking the question in that ONE article. A fraction of college articles are doing one common type of thing, thus it's crazy for me discuss it in numerous places. Since the topic crosses numerous college articles, it's better to pick a neutral place to discuss it. • Sbmeirow  •  Talk  • 12:36, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Perhaps you could raise the matter at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Universities? Eagleash (talk) 12:54, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Lourdes, please read questions more than once before answering. Sbmeirow, such photos are almost never a good idea.  I won't say that an argument can never be made for picturing an alumnus whose only significant connection to the school was being a student and alumnus (for example, the Eureka College article's use of File:Ronald Reagan on the Eureka College Football Team 1929.jpg), but individual alumni are just almost never a significant component of an institution's history merely by virtue of being alumni, so including a list of them is undue weight, and adding photo(s) compounds the problems.  Include the picture of the alumnus in the section where secondary sourcing is used to establish his important part in the institution's history, or include him in the section that discusses the buildings named for him, or something of that sort, but remove the list of alumni and the photos with it.  Nyttend (talk) 01:16, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Nyttend, hope you're doing well. I understand what you're saying. In my opinion, your advise to Sbmeirow to unilaterally remove the list of alumni and the photos with it in the said articles would probably result in quite some edits and reverts from the regulars on these pages. But yes, perhaps Sbmeirow should follow Eagleash's advise to gain a universal consensus on the relevance of such sections in college and university articles; maybe an WP:RFC would be appropriate at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Universities. What do you think? Warmly,  Lourdes  04:33, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I agree with Nyttend. I always remove galleries unless they are clearly relevant and integral to an article, which is our policy for all image use Jimfbleak - talk to me?  11:09, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
 * , I tend to agree too. To assist the OP in getting more clarity, would you recommend that the OP, for a start, now go ahead and remove the galleries from the said articles (as the OP has specifically questioned the validity of the galleries in these articles)? Or should they first discuss the removal on the talk pages of the respective articles? Or should they take a broad consensus as suggested by Eagleash? Thanks,  Lourdes  20:28, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
 * , you are probably not asking the right person here, since I tend to be fairly direct in these matters and just remove unneeded galleries or other excessive images. Having said that, I've never had such action challenged so far, but obviously I'd explain and discuss my edits if necessary. I'd be inclined to delete the worst one to start with and see what happens Jimfbleak - talk to me?  07:21, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I would offer my opinion that pictures and also lists (in these high profile articles) of alumni are helpful in describing to the average reader notable people linking them to the institution. This is not a random assortment that have no relevance to the institution or generally the culture of the institution. As a matter of previous practice it is not uncommon for this type of formatting to be included in university pages. Please create a RFC/RFD at a minimum to gain consensus before removing the galleries and parts of alumni lists as was done with the University of Kansas https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=University_of_Kansas&oldid=810607738. This should probably be done at the project page WP:UNI. Randomeditor1000 (talk) 13:56, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

Another "Archibald Hamilton Charteris"
There's another Archibald Hamilton Charteris (Apr 22, 1874 - Oct 9, 1940), Challis Professor of International Law and Jurisprudence, University of Sydney's Law School, whose newspaper articles on Politics I find relevant. There is information about him in http://adb.anu.edu.au/biography/charteris-archibald-hamilton-5564, a webpage of the "Australian Dictionary of Biography." Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:8A0:E890:4D01:B470:43DA:408A:5EC9 (talk) 08:23, 9 November 2017 (UTC)


 * If you submit a draft of an article on this new subject (properly supported by references to published reliable sources) for review through the WP:AFC process, the disambiguation of the article title will be resolved if and when the article is accepted for publication. Advice on writing an article is available at WP:Your first article. --David Biddulph (talk) 08:41, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

Help on Template:Cite magazine
I was planning on using a reference relating to a magazine, but the magazine reference number which is "74470 12797" with two 0's between the number with 1 0 at the top. Can someone please tell me what's going wrong? Many thanks.--Bartallen2 (talk) 09:06, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Template magazine accepts 27 different identification systems. It would really help us to answer your question if you told us the name of the magazine and what country you are in, because what you are describing at the moment sounds like the barcode on the front of a magazine. - X201 (talk) 09:20, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
 * In actual fact, I think you're looking at the barcode on the front cover of American Cinematographer. If so, that's not the number you are looking for. - X201 (talk) 09:25, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

Yes Im looking at the barcode on the front cover of American Cinematographer; where is the number Im looking for? Im from the UK, but the Magazine is American. --Bartallen2 (talk) 07:43, 12 November 2017 (UTC)

i want to create an artical about 'Ramlal Jat'
he is an active politician from india. so please help me and edit texts written below.thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Isuraj (talk • contribs) 09:36, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

(Page code removed) First step, don't paste the whole article onto this page.- X201 (talk) 09:50, 9 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Advice is at WP:Your first article. --David Biddulph (talk) 09:54, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

Incorrect Information
Good day the information registered under the name of myself Bavesh Padayachy is not entirely true and I would like to request the page to be removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.255.115.232 (talk) 09:57, 9 November 2017 (UTC)


 * See WP:Autobiography. --David Biddulph (talk) 10:21, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Hello, the page is unlikely to be removed unless it fails Wikipedia's notability criteria or other key policies. As you have declared a connection with the page, you should not edit the page yourself but, after reading WP:COI and WP:RS you can make edit requests via the article talk page. Please provide references for any changes you wish to see made. Please sign your posts on talk pages by typing four tildes ( ~ ).Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 10:26, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

One of the biggest problem is that it is unsourced as the "sources" present are just links to website main pages, one that is defunct, the UN makes no mention of this person on their site and the third link is a landing page for several firms. Jarkeld (talk) 11:20, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

Creating Artist (DJ/Producer) Wikipedia Biography
Hi there, I'm an artist manager and trying to create a wikipedia for one of my more prestigious artists, but I haven't any clue how to start correctly on this or where. Any help would be appreciated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ravell (Musical Artist) (talk • contribs) 11:40, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Please read WP:COI. As you have ties to said artist, it is strongly discouraged to write about them yourself. Jarkeld (talk) 11:43, 9 November 2017 (UTC)


 * A good rule of thumb to use, is that that the last thing a truly prestigious artist needs, is a manager to create an article about him or her. If they are truly encyclopedically prestigious they will already have an  article, listing their works, life, any criminal convictions  and everything else. If you wish to promote this individual, do it on Facebook etc., but do not try it on Wikipedia. Aspro (talk) 15:08, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

how to come from sandbox to publication
Hello, I want to publish the English version of an article about the Institute for Tropical Medicine in Tuebingen. How can I come from "sandbox" to publishing. Is there something missing. The icon for publishing does not show up where it is described in the FAQ. Can somebody help? Thanks a lot, W (username: wgmetzger) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wgmetzger (talk • contribs) 13:46, 9 November 2017 (UTC)


 * I have added a user sandbox template to User:Wgmetzger/sandbox/Institute for Tropical Medicine Tuebingen. You seem to have only one reference, so a reviewer who reads German will have to assess whether it supports all of the text in the draft. --David Biddulph (talk) 13:55, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

Tanya Burr page
Hi there,

I have made several edits to Tanya Burr's wikipedia page, to reflect her current career. However, today these have all be undone.

Please can it go back to how it was looking this morning?

Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Prestontaswiki (talk • contribs) 15:33, 9 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Did you read the edit summary on, or the message on your user talk page, or follow the link to WP:unsourced? --David Biddulph (talk) 15:43, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

Cropping an SVG file
Does anyone know a tool to crop SVG files? I would like to remove the border from File:Elasticsearch logo.svg, and CropTool does not support SVG files. Thanks! Daylen (talk) 16:39, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
 * By "border", do you mean the large empty expanse? If you do, I can do it myself a few hours from now. Maproom (talk) 17:24, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I've cropped most of the margin. I hope that's what you wanted. Maproom (talk) 22:11, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes it is, thank you! Out of curiosity, what program did you use? Thanks, Daylen (talk) 06:42, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I Used Notepad++ (though any other text editor would have been as good) to alter the values specified for "viewBox" in line 4. Maproom (talk) 08:06, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

Company Pages
Hi, how do you cleanup your company page if it's flagged for something? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.232.185.226 (talk) 17:04, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
 * The answer depends on what the issue is.  What page are you asking about and what issues would you like to fix? RudolfRed (talk) 18:52, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

Unable to submit for review
Hi there, I'm a new user and have created my first draft in my sandbox, which I'd like to submit for review. But the "Submit for Review" button doesn't show up at the bottom of the edit box. User:Hillameller/sandbox

Can you please advise? Thank you! Hillameller (talk) 18:33, 9 November 2017 (UTC)Hilla Meller


 * I've added the formatting for the references. I hope you don't mind.
 * When I look at your sandbox I see a button in blue at the top "Submit your draft for review". Is that not showing for you?    D b f i r s   18:47, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I've added more Wikilinks and corrected formatting on some of them. Codyorb (talk) 00:23, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

Belen Marrero
He tratado de escribir un articulo sobre una actriz Venezolana y no entiendo por que no lo aceptan, alguien me puede ayudar? El nombre de la actriz es Belen Marrero y ya ha tenido su biografía en Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jennycdiaz (talk • contribs) 20:30, 9 November 2017 (UTC)


 * The reason that Draft:Belen Marrero was declined in that this is the English language Wikipedia and your draft isn't in English. You can find Wikipedias in other languages at List of Wikipedias. --David Biddulph (talk) 20:50, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

Cannot see rest of citation templates on drop-down menu
A problem I've been encountering for as long as I've been on Wikipedia is that 3 of the 4 quick-access templates on the top are completely unusable when using the source editor. As a result, I have to enter the templates in manually, which takes a lot more time. I've attached a screenshot.



Thanks! --Codyorb (talk) 23:51, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Does it work when you are logged out? What is your browser? PrimeHunter (talk) 00:22, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Sorry for the delay! It doesn't work when I'm logged out. I'm using Chrome. Codyorb (talk) 16:17, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I also want to note that if I haven't clicked on or interacted with the text box, I'm able to see the full menu. However, as soon as I click on the text or edit it, it gets hidden. Even if I click outside of the text or deselect it afterwards, I still can't access it unless if I reload the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Codyorb (talk • contribs) 16:22, 10 November 2017 (UTC)