Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2017 October 17

= October 17 =

DLA Piper
Ref number 49 is wrong and "in red ink" - I did not do this ref. Please fix if able 203.132.68.1 (talk) 00:32, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
 * ✅ (fixed wrong ref, corrected myself in following edit) It just needed the cite web template to be filled in to include the title of the page (as well as date, website, etc.) There is usually a link in the red text which you can follow, which tells you how to fix the problem.  Dairy  &#123; talk &#125; 00:51, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

A patrolled article is still not indexed by Google?
I recently created an article (Yasodara Córdova). I asked for revision here last Oct 11, and it was reviewed by two experienced reviewers. I see that now when googling for the name https://encrypted.google.com/search?q=yasodara+cordova, Google creates the snippet box in the right. However, it seems it still doesn't show the Wikipedia article as part of the results: https://encrypted.google.com/search?q=%22yasodara+c%C3%B3rdova%22+site%3Awikipedia.org I thought after patrolling, the article is indexed, but maybe I'm not understanding the rules correctly. Could someone explain me what's going on? Thanks! Samer.hc (talk) 01:36, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Hello, hope you're well. Wikipedia does not control Google search results. Google takes some time to index newly created pages. For your benefit, I've manually submitted the article page to Google for it to index the same. It'll be indexed in around a week more or so. If there is any further query, feel free to ask away. Warmly.  Lourdes  03:32, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Re-ping .  Lourdes  03:33, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
 * As far as I can see, Yasodara Córdova is still awaiting patrol through the new page patrol process (along with about 13 thousand other pages), and hence has a NOINDEX tag which will stop Google indexing it. --David Biddulph (talk) 05:47, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for pointing that out. I have reviewed the article.  Lourdes  06:29, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks so much, what a efficiency! It is already showing in the results :) Samer.hc (talk) 11:29, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Von Joshua baseball player
Correction on his college. He did not go to Chabot....he went to Laney College and signed out of there. Then he went to Cal State Haywood for 1 yr.

After his baseball career he coached in the Dodgers minor league system for 10yrs. From there he coached with the Chicago White Sox for 10yrs. Within those 10yrs he coached in the majors for 4yrs. Making across the board records in 2000. From the White Sox he was the hitting coordinator for the Toronto Blue Jays for 1 1/2 yrs. From there he went on to coach with the Chicago Cubs for 9yrs. In those 9yrs he was the interim hitting coach for 6 months in the major league until Rudy Jaramillo. From there he went back to the Iowa Cubs AAA club for another year.

In 2014 he went to Taiwan as their hitting coach and was also the manager for the EDA Rhino’s. The team won last years Championship (for the CPBL). The team was sold and is now called the Fubon Gaurdians where he is still coaching. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jjoshua39 (talk • contribs) 02:11, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
 * If you think there are errors in the Von Joshua article, you should detail them on the article's talk page, so that other editors can review the situation. This page (though, like us, it's an open Wiki) supports some of your contentions, but the coaching details don't exactly match. Joshua's Retrosheet page, however, lists no coaching jobs other than those in the Cubs organization (with a shorter tenure and different dates). Deor (talk) 19:29, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Counter-Vandalism Question
While browsing the Recent Changes, I noticed that people where vandalizing articles and then fixing them on the same account. This makes it harder for us Counter-Vandalism Unit members to monitor wikipedia because of the constant flow of spam do to this. Is this considered as Disruptive editing? Swag Gangster  ★ 02:25, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi SwagGangster, when I'm looking at recent changes and notice that. I use the template test edits first. It allows you to give a warning to the user so they know someone is looking at them while still assuming good faith (unless they are constantly doing it). Then if it continues you can call it disruptive. NZFC  (talk) 02:33, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

TCM template?
I thought there was a template for TCM for including in 'See also' section, as with ; but, is not it. —2606:A000:4C0C:E200:15FB:A1AF:25AD:DBFA (talk) 02:48, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
 * True that. I couldn't find a TCM template either. You'll have to currently make do with physically embedding the details in any article for now.  Lourdes  03:22, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
 * That's what I did (here). (Btw, I meant to say 'External links' section). —2606:A000:4C0C:E200:15FB:A1AF:25AD:DBFA (talk) 04:06, 17 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Found it: Template:Tcmdb title -- is it possible to have a redirect for a template? —2606:A000:4C0C:E200:15FB:A1AF:25AD:DBFA (talk) 04:35, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Wow. That was good work. I've redirected to this template. Hope that helps.  Lourdes  08:35, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I clicked on the (previously) red link and got the "this category does not exist" page and clicked on the "search for similar names" option (or something to that effect), and there it was.  —2606:A000:4C0C:E200:15FB:A1AF:25AD:DBFA (talk) 11:55, 17 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Don't forget to add the TCM data for films and for people to the corresponding Wikidata entry. --RAN (talk) 17:58, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Error saving data to server: Empty server response.
Always get an error when saving. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:8a0:712c:d801:8157:e85f:841d:2c28 (talk • contribs) 03:23, October 17, 2017 (UTC)
 * Well, hello! You managed to save this question here on the Help Desk. If your question relates to not being able to create new articles on Wikipedia, please note that to create pages directly in the Wikipedia article mainspace, you must be a logged in user with an account that must be at least 4 days (96 hours) old, and you must have made more than ten edits across Wikipedia. You can read up on how to create your first article for more details. If your query relates to something technical not connected to Wikipedia, the best place to ask the same is at Reference desk/Computing and not here. But please feel free to ask for more clarification here itself on the Help Desk about how to edit Wikipedia. Cheers.  Lourdes  03:41, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Page has been removed from Wikipedia
Hi there

Please advise why the page on Nicole Monique Bierbach or Nicole Bierbach (Namibia) has been removed from Wikipedia?

Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.190.104.224 (talk) 07:26, 17 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Nicole Monique Bierbach was one of many articles created by an editor with what turned out to be a large range of problems, as explained at WP:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive941. --David Biddulph (talk) 08:06, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Federal employees
Are congress members required to file taxes annually or differently? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:403:C100:DFB1:34DC:ACAC:FAFA:7A18 (talk) 17:28, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
 * This notice board is for asking questions about Wikipedia and its policies, editing practices, procedures, tools, etc. You may want to ask your question at the Reference Desk, which is for general factual questions such as this and has a large number of very helpful and knowledgeable folks ready to assist. Hope this helps. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 17:53, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Advanced searching: all people with certain initials?
I'm trying to find a way to search for all people, among those with Wikipedia articles, with a given set of initials. Let's say JW (as in Jimmy Wales) for example. I've already checked JW (disambiguation), and the person I'm looking for isn't listed there. I'm willing to sift through false positives, and to use a search that would exclude those with middle names (e.g., Jimmy Donal Wales). Any ideas? The regular expression searcher seemed positive, but I wasn't sure how to form the expression. --BDD (talk) 20:33, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
 * The search box has an "intitle" option to search article titles only, and it accepts regular expressions. [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Search&profile=default&search=intitle%3A%22%2FJ%5C.%3F+%3FW%5C.%3F+%3F%2F%22&fulltext=1&searchToken=5hlhah2xqr1g32gzszpk2b09o This search] may be close to what you are looking for. -- John of Reading (talk) 20:48, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks John, this is definitely along the lines of what I'm looking for. But it only seems to be picking up titles or redirects with the initials themselves (e.g., J. W. Backus, J. W. Hallahan Catholic Girls High School). Apologies if I didn't explain my query clearly, but what I'm looking for is a search that would give me Jimmy Wales, John Wilson, etc. --BDD (talk) 20:55, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Hmm, that's too hard for the search box. The tool you linked can do it. This search looks for a "J" at the start of a word, followed, somewhere afterwards, by a space and a "W". Or this search which looks for a "J" at the start of a word, and "W" at the start of the next word. Note that I switched to the Latin Wikipedia so that these searches only take a second or two. -- John of Reading (talk) 21:21, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks, that did the trick! --BDD (talk) 21:34, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Here's a variation that finds titles that begin with a J and and end with a word that starts with a W [] That way you can ignore middle names, Mduvekot (talk) 23:01, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia Account
How long does it usually take to get your wikipedia account approved? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.62.206.209 (talk) 20:57, 17 October 2017 (UTC)


 * There is no approval process because this is the encyclopaedia that anyone can edit. Have you created an account?  You will be able to edit straight away, but to create new articles you will need to wait four days and have made at least ten edits using your new account.  There are some semi-protected pages which you will not be able to edit until your account is 30 days old and you have made 500 edits, but there are not very many such pages.  I would advise you not to make frivolous edits.  Please remember that this is intended to be a serious encyclopaedia.    D b f i r s   21:08, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Ukranian text appearing as wikilink
When editing with the visual editor, if I click on the wikilink for panacea (medicine), the text that appears below the link (the page preview) is in Ukranian - міфологічний універсальний засіб від усіх хвороб, which translates to 'a mythological universal remedy for all diseases'. After clicking around a bit, I found that the text is coming from this wikidata entry. How do I change this, or who do I tell? Leschnei (talk) 23:51, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
 * You are right that some features display English descriptions from Wikidata. You can reach the right Wikidata page by clicking "Wikidata item" under "Tools" in the left pane of the desktop version of the article. Your account works at Wikidata. Click "edit" at the pencil icon at the top right of the description to edit it. Wikidata uses database fields so it's edited a little differently from Wikipedia but just look for the right field to edit. The description sounded appropriate but just had the wrong language so I have moved it to Ukrainian.[//www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q910154&type=revision&diff=580009458&oldid=569073118] There is no English description now but you can easily add one. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:32, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks much. I'm just beginning to figure out Wikidata and your explanation help. Leschnei (talk) 11:29, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
 * See wikidata:Help:Description for guidelines. wikidata:Help:Description says: "Descriptions begin with a lowercase letter except when uppercase would normally be required or expected." PrimeHunter (talk) 15:53, 18 October 2017 (UTC)