Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2017 October 2

= October 2 =

How to enter a new article
I am writing about a Russian opera singer, Georgi Nelepp. There are Wikipedia articles in Russian and German about him, but none in English. How do I enter one? Opera Snob (talk) 01:06, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Go to Draft:Georgi Nelepp and start typing. Also make sure you've read and understood My first article.  Come back here if you have specific questions.  Good luck!  Rojomoke (talk) 05:02, 2 October 2017 (UTC)


 * If you're considering making part or all of the article as a translation from one of the others, that's fine, but also read WP:translation, . --ColinFine (talk) 07:50, 2 October 2017 (UTC)

Getting an image to fit neatly within an article
In reference to the article BLAST (protocol), can someone help me with getting the image of the BLAST software flyer to tuck in neatly alongside the table of contents as opposed to impinging on the article text itself? It is not out of the question that I could add some additional table of contents categories -- as,for example, "References" and "External links", but the former of these poses a question in itself: how does one establish both a "Notes" and "References" section? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Synchronist (talk • contribs) 03:12, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Done. I used a toc left and a clear. -Arch dude (talk) 03:34, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Muchos gracias, Mr. Speedy Gonzales! Looks SOOOO much better!!!Synchronist (talk) 03:43, 2 October 2017 (UTC)

Albert Kitson, 2nd Baron Airedale
In the "family section" on this page, the name Kate Lupton has her own section in the Lupton family page. Can you please link it so that we go straight to Kate Lupton's own section on that page? Thanks 101.189.91.206 (talk) 05:24, 2 October 2017 (UTC)

✅ Eagleash (talk) 05:37, 2 October 2017 (UTC)

Conflict of interest edits list
Good morning,

Roughly six weeks ago I suggested edits for the Wikipedia page of my employer (The International Institute for Strategic Studies).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Institute_for_Strategic_Studies

My suggested edits reflect the fact that the current page is out of date and, in our view, incomplete. I flagged my input as subject to a potential conflict of interest using the request edit tag, and saw that it was added to this page:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Requested_edits

However, in the past few weeks there seems no sign that the backlog listed on this page is being worked through. Is the list still being looked at by editors? I'm really keen to go about this process the right way - but also want to make sure the edits are looked at as soon as possible. Any update on how the backlog is being handled would be hugely helpful.

All best,

Craig Burnett, Assistant Editor (online), IISS — Preceding unsigned comment added by BurnettIISS (talk • contribs) 09:28, 2 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Thank you for being open and trying to avoid COI. However correcting things which are unambiguously factual corrections (like correcting the list of Council members) are fine to be done by you. Without knowing anything about IISS, I feel like your other suggestions are either too specific for Wikipedia (like the list of research fellows), or judgement calls and you should leave them for other editors. Perhaps the External Links section should instead link to the "About Us" part of the IISS web page, so people can go there to see what you say about yourselves. Or, perhaps distill your requests to 2 or 3 key things, because your list of requests is rather long. Adpete (talk) 00:31, 4 October 2017 (UTC)

Watchlist not showing
Hi - very minor problem here, but I noticed that my Watchlist no longer displays unless I click the Show button. It seems to be defaulting to a 0 hours timeframe. I can set it to show 30 days and click Show, but when I return to the page, everything has vanished again. I've tried logging out & in again, and deleting my cookies. Is there a bug with the Watchlist? If relevant, I'm on Chrome v.60.0, windows 10. I only started experiencing this about 2 days ago. Not a major problem for me, but it could be confusing for many users if it's a wider issue. Cnbrb (talk) 11:51, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
 * If you have a 0 at Special:Preferences then try increasing it. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:03, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Yup, thanks, that fixed it. Don't ever remember changing that! Cnbrb (talk) 13:09, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm on FireFox 55.03/Win 10 and had the same problem. Rather discomfiting. Thanks for the help PrimeHunter Natty10000 | Natter  00:11, 4 October 2017 (UTC)

Albert Kitson, 2nd Baron Airedale
I cannot do this myself - please put the "Death" section at the bottom of this page - after the "Gledhow Hall" section. Thanks and sorry. 101.189.91.206 (talk) 12:37, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
 * ✅ There you go! :) –FlyingAce✈hello 15:26, 2 October 2017 (UTC)

Notability of responses of elected officials to events
In the article Reactions to the Catalan independence referendum, 2017, I removed the reaction from a local ward councillor in a neighbourhood of Swansea, Wales, because I considered this was not notable. However, my edit was reverted with the argument that all reactions by publicly elected officials are notable. Are there any guidelines who is right here? --Gerrit CUTEDH 12:46, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
 * WP:NOTNEWS and WP:SECONDARY; like everything else, rely on secondary sources rather than reporting the news. What's important is determined by what future authors will write, not what shows up in primary sources like news reports from the time of the event.  Also, WP:ELNO #11 forbids linking to blogs in the external links, and anything that doesn't belong as an external link definitely doesn't deserve to be cited as a reliable secondary source when it's neither reliable nor secondary.  Nyttend (talk) 23:41, 2 October 2017 (UTC)

Giancarlo Molero
Dear Wiki team.

Thanks for all you guys have added to millions of people out there.

I'll like to have the chance to be display in wikipedia, my name is Giancarlo Molero and my website is looking forward to hear from you in regards on how to become part of your information sources.

I'll also want to have our Happiness community to be display in Wiki thats

Happily,

Giancarlo Molero — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.212.115.2 (talk) 13:54, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, Wikipedia is not the place for you to promote yourself, your company, your friends, etc. Wikipedia only covers subjects that are "notable", which roughly speaking means they have been written/spoken about at length by multiple reliable sources independent of them (typically, newspaper articles). From what you say here, I doubt you or your "happiness community" qualifies. Tigraan Click here to contact me 14:41, 2 October 2017 (UTC)

Women's rights in Saudi Arabia is too long
The article is already well over 100kB of wikitext, which is the recommended length limit for articles. There are several "see also" links to related articles where "excess" content could be merged. However, such a high profile article (due to recent changes to driving policy in Saudi) requires the gentle touch of an experienced editor to trim it down to size. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 14:30, 2 October 2017 (UTC)

Upload File Issue - Your account has not become confirmed yet
Hello,

I have created a Wikipedia login on 30th Sep 2017 to edit an article, but when we try to upload a picture we are getting a message "Your account has not become confirmed yet".

Please advise how to resolve it.

Regards Chetanananda — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chetanananda (talk • contribs) 16:20, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Your account will become confirmed after four days and once you have made 10 valid edits. Eagleash (talk) 16:57, 2 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Hello, . What Eagleash says is true; but in most cases, you should be uploading images to Wikimedia Commons, not to Wikipedia, and that does not have a restriction on new users uploading. But be careful that the image you upload has been explicitly licensed by the owner of the copyright in the image (not by anybody else) under a suitable licence which allows anybody to reuse it for any purpose (even commercial): with certain exceptions (which do not apply to images of living persons) that is the only basis on which images are accepted in Wikipedia. Please see Uploading images, and donating copyright materials.
 * On another subject, I'm afraid certain things about your posting give me cause for concern. First, you say "we": please be aware that shared accounts are not permitted on Wikipedia. If several of you are working together, you must each create a personal account (you don't have to use your real name: I do, but many editors do not).
 * Secondly, your user name is almost the same as the subject of the article you are working on. This is nearly always the wrong thing to do. If you are are Swami Chetanananda, then you are trying to create an autobiography, which is very strongly discouraged. If on the other hand you are not the Swami, then your account is impersonation, and is also not allowed. Please change your user name to something without this problem.
 * Thirdly, (not from your post above, but from looking at Swami Chetanananda) please understand that Wikipedia has essentially no interest at all in what the subject of an article says, or even what they do or publish, except as reported by independent sources. At present the article has no independent sources whatever (the Vedanta society is not independent of him). For there to be an article about him at all, it needs to be based almost entirely on several sources where people who have no connection with him whatever - not friends, relatives, publishers, employees, business associates, or members of his society - have chosen to write about him, and published in reliable places. Please read notability and WP:BLP. --ColinFine (talk) 19:42, 2 October 2017 (UTC)

help - wikipedia article marked for deletion
We edited the following wiki article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swami_Chetanananda

The article has been edited by Swami Chetanananda himself with the user name 'chetanananda'.

After editing, the following sequence of actions happened:

1. Swami received an email with this message: "Your account will become confirmed after four days and once you have made 10 valid edits."

2. After a few hours, Swami received another email with this message: "This account has been blocked indefinitely from editing Wikipedia because the username, Chetanananda, matches the name of a well-known, living person."

3. The original article has been marked for deletion.

This is a legitimate edit, and we need your help to unmark the article from the deletion list.

Regards, Swami Chetanananda — Preceding unsigned comment added by Srinidhim2004 (talk • contribs) 02:52, 4 October 2017 (UTC)
 * I have merged your post with the existing thread on the subject. Please read the information provided by Colin, above, and any posts at your or your collaborators' talk pages. The page has as you say been nominated for deletion and the community will discuss whether it is appropriate to be retained within the encyclopedia. Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 04:14, 4 October 2017 (UTC)

Hello ,

Thank you for your reply and three points for consideration. This is srinidhim2004. I am a member of the Vedanta Society of St Louis, and I am helping our society resolve this issue with Swami Chetanananda's account. We would like to have an accurate Wikipedia entry to provide information about Swami - the page for Swami's name has been on Wikipedia for many years, and recently we attempted to update the page to list his latest publications and add a photograph of Swami as well.

1. Regarding your first point, I acknowledge that the photograph should have been uploaded to Wikimedia and not to Wikipedia as we did earlier. I have now uploaded that file to Wikimedia here (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File_talk:Swami%2BChetanananda_web_pic.jpg).

2. I also acknowledge your second point about not using an account named Chetanananda to make edits to Swami Chetanananda's page. Moving forward I will inform our Society's members about this as well.

3. Thank you for pointing out the notability requirements for Wikipedia article subjects. Here are two newspaper mentions of Swami:

http://www.kansascity.com/living/religion/article39397026.html

http://www.stltoday.com/lifestyles/faith-and-values/vedanta-society-offers-respite-from-religious-extremism/article_653fa0b2-b4e5-5505-9c04-3b015b918e5c.html

Swami's lecture videos are also posted to youtube (example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WZgNoqvcmw), and his books are published and available on Amazon as well (example: https://www.amazon.com/Vedanta-Voice-Freedom-Swami-Vivekananada-ebook/dp/B06Y1MM39D/).

With the above considerations, I look forward to your help in helping me resolve the deletion tag on the article page. Contact information for the Vedanta Society is available on the Society's website (vedantastl.org).

Thank you, srinidhim2004

Template Removed
I am confused about the template now on my entry. The References have been called promotional but were added by others. When I logged in and tried to update the template was placed. Carol Smallwood (talk) 17:02, 2 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Convenience link:
 * Carol, before you get the wrong idea (or reinforce it), the Carol Smallwood article is not "yours". It is an article about you. I know, it may seem pedantic but there's an important distinction. You do not have any ownership of or rights to the article. I just wanted to be sure to make that clear before any misunderstandings. Please see WP:OWN.  † dismas †|(talk) 17:20, 2 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Hello . In these 6 consecutive edits, you added some references yourself. Before that, in 2016, there was these edits; and even before, there was these. I am not sure which references exactly were "added by others" and cause any trouble, but anyways, a reference is or is not promotional regardless of who placed it.
 * I will assume the template you speak of was the "conflict of interest" template, placed in this edit by . I do think the template is unwarranted, because although you edited the article, you did not change much meaty content and kept to references; so they should have used Template:Advert instead. But I am not sure this would be satisfying for you. Tigraan Click here to contact me 19:38, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
 * You are right, the other template would be worse. How can it be cleaned up?Carol Smallwood (talk) 19:48, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
 * I copied the above from my talk page where it was misplaced., please keep the discussion in one place unless you have good reason not to (and if you ever post to my talk page, do not do so in the middle of the page ).
 * The article has to be cleaned up from the offending material before the template is removed. Unfortunately, you are not the good person to do so, for reasons that should be obvious after reading WP:COI. I will give it a shot. Tigraan Click here to contact me 19:56, 2 October 2017 (UTC)