Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2017 October 22

= October 22 =

Tyrique Jarrett
I don't know where to go to ask someone to propose an article for deletion. I came across the article for football player Tyrique Jarrett and it seems clear that he doesn't qualify for notability. He was not drafted in the 2017 NFL Draft, is currently on the practice squad of a team, and has never played in a game. WP:NGRIDIRON says playing in at least one regular or postseason game is required to establish notability. He played on a college team but, per WP:NCOLLATH, he's clearly not notable for that. The only sources in the article are mostly just some general roster listings and media guides from his college and NFL teams. I know there are a bunch of different reasons and ways to propose deleting an article but I have no idea which route is best, and the process is too complex for me to do anyway. I thought maybe I should ask about his at a particular board but I didn't know if it should be one with expertise about the NFL, sports in general, BLPs, or some other place. I just want someone to look at the article to see if they agree this person is not notable and then propose it for deletion if they agree with me. 2605:A000:FFC0:D8:E8B0:35F4:5401:1C0D (talk) 00:25, 22 October 2017 (UTC)
 * See WP:AFD. IPs cannot create Wikipedia:space pages, so you have to write the message somewhere and ask someone else to create it for you.  I've created the nomination with the text you wrote here; see Articles for deletion/Tyrique Jarrett.  Thank you for your work.  Nyttend (talk) 00:35, 22 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks! 2605:A000:FFC0:D8:E8B0:35F4:5401:1C0D (talk) 00:36, 22 October 2017 (UTC)

Something didn't go through
Hello! When I edited the Miss Indiana USA pageant for 2018, when I hitted save, it didn't go through. Can you guys please fix it by this afternoon? I usually edit without logging in.

Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.60.240.178 (talk) 13:16, 22 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Hello, If you are referring to your edit here which added a line for 2018 to the table, this was a 'pending change' which was reverted or 'not accepted' by another editor; presumably because it is too early to add the line and cells which just contain 'TBA' do not add anything to the article. Please sign your posts on talk pages by typing four tildes ( ~ ). Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 13:36, 22 October 2017 (UTC)

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Counter-Vandalism Question
How do I notify someone who can block/ ban someone if there is persistent vandalism ( such as someone who just received a 4th warning and is still vandalising ) Swag Gangster  ★ 19:41, 22 October 2017 (UTC)


 * The place for such notifications is WP:AIV. --David Biddulph (talk) 19:55, 22 October 2017 (UTC)

Archive Talk Page
I am trying to archive my Talk page with a script for it to Archive for the first time and then regularly; I put this on my Talk page but it does not seem to be working. Can somebody help me fix it so it will occur on whatever frequency basis would make most sense? Many thanks in advance. FULBERT (talk) 19:44, 22 October 2017 (UTC)


 * If you look at your user talk page history, you will see that it was archived to User talk:FULBERT/Archive 33, which is what you told the bot to do. It is not clear why you asked for that rather than User talk:FULBERT/Archive 1. --David Biddulph (talk) 19:49, 22 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Not sure how I did that; thanks David Biddulph. FULBERT (talk) 01:30, 23 October 2017 (UTC)


 * For a similar problem recently you may wish to look at WP:Teahouse/Questions/Archive 681. --David Biddulph (talk) 19:54, 22 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the reference; useful to read more about this, David Biddulph. Always more for me to learn!! FULBERT (talk) 01:30, 23 October 2017 (UTC)


 * I've fixed it, the Archive now starts at 1. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 19:56, 22 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks Dodger67 for the help fixing it! Will this continue to archive on its own? FULBERT (talk) 01:30, 23 October 2017 (UTC)
 * yes, it's all set now, the bot will come around periodically and follow the instructions. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 09:16, 23 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks Dodger67! FULBERT (talk) 09:47, 23 October 2017 (UTC)

'TRNC' 'Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus'
Dear Wikipedia,

this article is technically wrong since a turkish repubilic in 'Northern' Cyprus is not recognised by any country other than Turkey. 'Northern' Cyprus is officially called occupied land, as the Turkish army invaded Cyrpus in 1974. Please read on some history, before publishing factually incorrect articles. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C4:6CA9:4701:A830:9417:D460:9C89 (talk) 19:53, 22 October 2017 (UTC)
 * I see nothing factually incorrect in the article. The first paragraph says "a self-declared state .... Recognised only by Turkey, Northern Cyprus is considered by the international community to be part of the Republic of Cyprus." Maproom (talk) 20:12, 22 October 2017 (UTC)

Wiki data supporters/managers appear to use their power of political opinion
I have added a reference and details of public statements from Khizr Khan and they have been removed and ignored as "my opinion" even though I have left reference transcripts from the Internet to back the details about Khan. At least one person with power has muted these reference materials as "my opinion" in a chat session. Does Wiki have any viability if personal public statements are included in a person's Wiki history? — Preceding unsigned comment added by UGAWise (talk • contribs) 19:55, 22 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia is a community of editors. Consensus should be obtained on the talk page of the article.  There are no persons with power who mute referenced statements here, but in this case there seems to be a disagreement over interpretation of the reference.  I have no opinion either way on this topic, so will not contribute.  Wikipedia considers it important to present a balanced view.    D b f i r s   08:39, 23 October 2017 (UTC)

Translation
How I can read Wikipedia articles in Spanish? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.88.65.200 (talk) 20:00, 22 October 2017 (UTC)
 * At Spanish-language Wikipedia, https://es.wikipedia.org/ . Maproom (talk) 20:18, 22 October 2017 (UTC)

Google Chrome version history
Lately I've been having a problem with IP editors vandalizing the article on Google Chrome version history. Lately, on October 18, 2.24.16.251 and 72.69.116.88 vandalized the page with these three edits, but I had to undo the vandalism to keep it safe. But then, today, 2.24.26.129 posted two claims that I vandalized the page by "removing all info about Chrome 62 Stable" (which I did not do!), but I had to remove the lies the IP editor made about me. Now I'm very worried. What shall I do to keep the Google Chrome version history article safe from IP editor vandalism? I feel like I'm being threatened here! --Angeldeb82 (talk) 22:24, 22 October 2017 (UTC)


 * The place for discussing the problem is at Talk:Google Chrome version history, so I have reverted your deletion of the message which the IP left there. You are not, in general, permitted to remove another user's contributions to a talk page, see WP:TPO.  The IP added information with references so it is not clear why you referred to the addition as vandalism.  Remember that the Wikipedia definition of the term is at WP:Vandalism. At the talk page you can explain why you consider the IP's edits to have been vandalism, and other editors can consider your response. --David Biddulph (talk) 22:45, 22 October 2017 (UTC)