Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2017 September 27

= September 27 =

Adding wikidata info
I split off Dear Ruth (film) from Dear Ruth. The wikidata needs to be transferred to the new article, but for some reason, there's no Wikidata item option in the tools. What do I do? Clarityfiend (talk) 00:38, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
 * The Wikidata item needs to be created. Go to Wikidata and select 'create new item' from the tools on the left. The label will be just 'Dear Ruth' without the disamb. - the description will contain the disamb. E.g. '1947 film'. Complete the fields as appropriate and add the new article name to the list of Wikipedia pages at the end of the fields. Once you've done this the wikidata item should appear in the article tools once the page is refreshed (often takes a minute or two to take effect). Eagleash (talk) 02:01, 27 September 2017 (UTC)


 * I created "Dear Ruth (film)" in Wikidata. As for the rest, it's all too much for this old dog to master at the moment. Thanks anyway. Clarityfiend (talk) 06:49, 28 September 2017 (UTC)
 * I spotted the Wikidata item creation and added several statements and links to the en.Wiki page. (I also removed the 'film' from the label; as above, disamb. is taken care of by the description). Eagleash (talk) 23:53, 30 September 2017 (UTC)

BYU Mens Basketball Page
Please reverse edits made to BYU Men's Basketball team. They are ridiculous and made my a GU fan that should be blocked. I cannot believe that his revisions have been allowed to stay for so long.
 * Hi, I have rollbacked all edits made by user and placed a warning on their talk page. I note you tried to do the same on Gonzaga Bulldogs men's basketball but was reverted by a bot. Don't get into an edit war on Wikipedia with other schools or users NZ Footballs Conscience  (talk) 03:54, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

How to make, store and use a smaller template
I would like to make a template very similar to this one in S-train (Copenhagen), which should be  with an icon (green with "Re" written in white). I come no further than to make the icon. But how go on from there ? Where are these templates stored, how do I store the icon. How do I connect the icon to the synthaxis. Can it be implemented in a specific article or in a few ? I'm really from scratch here. And our template help page isn't to be understood, just see its talk-page. Boeing720 (talk) 02:50, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
 * I've probably misunderstood your question, but if you upload your "Re" icon as File:S-train Re.svg and then use  in your sandbox table, the table will display the "Re" icon, and a click on the icon will take you to Re (S-train). Is that what you are trying to achieve? -- John of Reading (talk) 12:32, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
 * No not really, it seems to me as you have understood me rather well. And - Thank you very much ! But what I'm aiming for, in the end, is an assembly or list (as well as a schematic map) of all S-train, Metro and regional-train stations within Copenhagen's more central parts. ( = ticket fare zones 1-4 ) Inside an existing or new article, but I intend to begin in my sandbox, or already have. It's a kind of "long term job", and the Copenhagen Metro stations and lines which are due to open in spring 2019 will be included. The Re-icon is for regional train stops, and they use a symbol like the one I've made (but lack line names/numbers/letters). I assume that you mean I must use the SVG-format and upload new icons at Commons ? I couldn't really find out of where the S-train icons are stored, like with "normal" images. Boeing720 (talk) 01:41, 28 September 2017 (UTC)
 * They are "normal" images, which you can see at Commons:Category:S-train icons. The template S-train service small builds the image name from "S-train" + the supplied letter + ".svg", and arranges for a click on the icon to jump to the article named "letter (S-train)". If "Re" is a shorthand for an upcoming "S-train" line, then your new icon will fit in neatly there. But if "Re" stands for something else, this isn't the right template to use, as there won't be an Re (S-train) article to link to - what article should it link to instead? Are you also going to need M-train service small to display the Commons:Category:Copenhagen Metro icons and link to the articles M1 (Copenhagen), M2 (Copenhagen) etc? -- John of Reading (talk) 06:37, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

Meghan Markle
There is a large gap in the section on Markle's television career - I cannot make the photo of her ancestor smaller. Please help  Thankyou  139.216.210.155 (talk) 03:03, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
 * I did not see a 'gap', but the larger image from the Ancestry section overlapped the filmography table. I have moved the images into a 'gallery' within the ancestry section. Eagleash (talk) 03:22, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

Clan of cave bear - book
Not a children's book! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.77.223.56 (talk) 09:49, 27 September 2017‎ (UTC)


 * If you are talking about The Clan of the Cave Bear, the article says that it is a historical novel, not that it is a children's book. --David Biddulph (talk) 10:00, 27 September 2017 (UTC)


 * (ec) No, it isn't. But it's in a series called Earth's Children, which is what our article The Clan of the Cave Bear says..  Rojomoke (talk) 10:02, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
 * (edit conflict) Which page are you referring to? The Clan of the Cave Bear doesn't say it's a children's book. It says: "It is the first book in the Earth's Children book series". Here "Earth's Children" is a link to a specific book series which is called that by its author Jean M. Auel. See for example http://www.jeanauel.com/. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:03, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

Predictive edit summaries
Predictive edit summaries have stopped appearing when I start typing in the edit box; I've had this happen before but I don't remember how to fix it. I haven't changed preferences to the best of my knowledge Jimfbleak - talk to me?  12:28, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Do you have a java/script blocker running? That usually does it for me. Crow  Caw  14:31, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Crow, not to the best of my knowledge, how can I tell? FWIW, scripts and things like WikiEd work OK Jimfbleak - talk to me?  14:33, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
 * It would be something you added/enabled as a security measure, so if you don't know, then probably that's not it. Did you recently clear your complete browser cache including form data? That's another one that does it for me. The test there is, do predictive summaries work for your most recent edits if you use the same summary? If no to that, then I'm out of ideas. :(  Crow  Caw  14:43, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

WIKI article does not appear in Google search.
I contributed to an article on Philip Eliasoph (Bio/Living Person/Art Historian) which does not appear in Google search. How might this issue be resolved? Elemocenary (talk) 14:44, 27 September 2017 (UTC)elemocenary
 * Articles are excluded from search engines until they've been reviewed by an unrelated editor, or after 90 days, whichever comes first. This helps cut down on spam, but also unfortunately causes delays like this. The article you mention was reviewed a couple days ago, so whenever the search engines come back around it will get indexed. We have no control over that schedule. Crow  Caw  15:06, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

Editing Comparison Tables
I am trying to edit this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_network_monitoring_systems. For the "Intermapper" line, I want to change "Agentless" from "No" to "Yes," but I'm not a coder and am having trouble figuring out how to do this. If anyone can help, I'd appreciate it! Here is the source: https://www.helpsystems.com/intermapper/intermapper-technical
 * Hi, it's just a matter of counting down the right number of rows and toggling a No to a Yes. I've made that change though. Do you have a source for that by the way? Thanks! Crow  Caw  15:45, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

Password problem
I have not been logged in for a few years. I have asked for a new password but it seems to have been sent to an address that no longer exists. How can I update my email address without being able to log in? Maybe I need to create a new account? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.203.99.17 (talk)
 * Yes, if you don't remember the password and cannot receive mails at the stored address then you need to create a new account and abandon the old one. Old passwords never expire unless a new working password is entered so you can also try possible passwords you might have used. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:50, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
 * See Wikipedia Signpost/2007-05-14/Committed identity. If you established a committed identity as described, I think you can ask an administrator to reset your password. Jc3s5h (talk) 16:58, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Reset your email address to be precise, but it would have to be a server administrator and special circumstances like an account with advanced user rights. Wikipedia administrators like me cannot do it. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:06, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

Donating by phone
I would like to donate to Wikipedia but by phone rather than using your links. What is the phone number I can use?
 * I don't know whether that is possible. Ways to Give doesn't mention it. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:09, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

Wayback Machine returned PDF instead of web page
When I clicked the link to: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/235601539_Phylogenetic_relationships_of_Rhododendron_section_Vireya_(Ericaceae)_inferred_from_the_ITS_nrDNA_region/file/72e7e51e347034a1c1.pdf I was directed to "https://www.researchgate.net/".

I then used the Wayback Machine to search for an archived version. When I clicked the Jul 14 date on the page: https://web.archive.org/web/20140801000000*/https://www.researchgate.net/publication/235601539_Phylogenetic_relationships_of_Rhododendron_section_Vireya_(Ericaceae)_inferred_from_the_ITS_nrDNA_region/file/72e7e51e347034a1c1.pdf, I was asked to download a PDF. I cannot use the archive url because of the wildcard. What do I do?User-duck (talk) 17:56, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Can you clarify what you are trying to do? The original link is to a PDF, and so it makes sense that the archive would also be a PDF.  What are you expecting instead?  RudolfRed (talk) 18:47, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
 * The Wayback Machine does not give me a URL that I can use with the "archive-url=" parameter. The URL that points to the pdf has "20140801000000*" which has a wildcard character at the end. This is not allowed in the "archive-url=" parameter. (Article:Rhododendron)User-duck (talk) 19:07, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
 * When I click on your link, I also get a "Download PDF" dialog. But I noticed that my browser is displaying a different URL at that point: https://web.archive.org/web/20140715012754/http://www.researchgate.net/profile/Frank_Udovicic/publication/235601539_Phylogenetic_relationships_of_Rhododendron_section_Vireya_%28Ericaceae%29_inferred_from_the_ITS_nrDNA_region/file/72e7e51e347034a1c1.pdf which has an exact date and time, not a wildcard. It looks as if archive.org has resolved the wildcard for you. -- John of Reading (talk) 19:43, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I just say the name in a pop-up I could not capture.User-duck (talk) 15:53, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

Adding References
Hello,

I have been trying to add the references for the articles I cited for a whole now and they are not formatting correctly. I was trying to use the italics for the article and the bold for the volume. I am thinking I must not be doing it correctly as its not coming out with the right formatting on the main page.

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by SJButler (talk • contribs) 18:33, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

Quote symbol template for annotated harvp citation
Per annotated harvp citation (given that sfnp does not work inside a ):

Does a template exists to put  around Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet... ? 74.138.106.1 (talk) 18:57, 27 September 2017 (UTC) & update 17:55, 28 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Clark (2012), p. 34. "Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet..."
 * Update: I found Template:Strloc insert which works.

Name change
Province of Tenerife? The official name is Province of Santa Cruz de Tenerife.--95.22.182.34 (talk) 19:10, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
 * See WP:COMMONNAME. † dismas †|(talk) 19:15, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

moving Tommy Boy Records and its category pages?
Hi, recently I worked on adding a lot to the Tommy Boy Records page. However, the company goes by the name Tommy Boy Entertainment on their website and social media (Facebook, Twitter, Instagram). I'd like to move/redirect Tommy Boy Records to Tommy Boy Entertainment, but how will this affect these below categories? Do they need to be renamed as well or will that happen automatically?


 * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Tommy_Boy_Records
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Tommy_Boy_Records_albums
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Tommy_Boy_Records_artists

Thanks, Melodies1917 (talk) 20:27, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

Misaligned table
At Chris_Janson, the middle column of the table (where the release dates are listed) is off by one pixel. Any idea what's causing this? Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 21:22, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
 * I don't know what you refer to but something with one pixel may depend on details like browser, window size and zoom level. It looks OK to me. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:11, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
 * What do you mean "off by one pixel"? -AnonWikiEditor (talk) 23:35, 27 September 2017 (UTC)