Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2018 April 21

= April 21 =

navigation pop-ups
Within the last week, whenever I open wikipedia, if I happen to scroll over a hyperlink, it turns into a pop-up. The article on wikipedia seems to describe this as an opt-in feature available to people with accounts. Has it become an impossible-to-get-away-from feature for casual visitors? I finally opened an account just so I could turn it off! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anordinaryname (talk • contribs) 00:36, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Logged out users can click the gear wheel at the lower right of the popup and disable the feature. The choice is remembered by a cookie so it's forgotten if you delete cookies or change computer or browser. Logged in users can disable it at "Page previews" at Special:Preferences. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:47, 21 April 2018 (UTC)

Money Heist actors
Hi,

I wondered if Spanish actors Álvaro Morte (available in six other languages) and Pedro Alonso (three languages) could have English Wikipedia articles. They play the main characters of the Money Heist series (Netflix, huge success).

WhatsUpWorld (talk) 02:01, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
 * If they meet our notability standards (WP:NOTE) (i.e., multiple, substantial articles in reliable sources), then they should have articles here. Feel free to create the articles, and thanks. English sources are preferred but are not mandatory. The existence of articles on other language versions of Wikipedia does not necessarily mean they meet our criteria, since each language is a separate project with (possibly) separate rules. You are free to translate from other language versions, but if so, you must attribute your source: see Translation. -Arch dude (talk) 06:42, 21 April 2018 (UTC)

Meghan Markle
In the "early life" section, the word "from" is spelt incorrectly. cannot log in so please repair error. Thankyou 175.33.22.145 (talk) 07:14, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
 * ✅ HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 07:17, 21 April 2018 (UTC)

Help needed for fixing a bar chart
I have used a Bart Chart for showing Decadal Population Growth on the Barasat II page. I find that the negative growth data for 1991-2001 decade is not showing. I need help to set it right. Cheers. - Chandan Guha (talk) 09:38, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
 * The question is about a template starting " {{#invoke:Chart ". You'll need someone who understands this template. Maproom (talk) 17:27, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
 * The documentation for Module:Chart says nothing about negative y values; talk page indicates that Module:Chart will never support -y. There is another: {{tlx|Graph:Chart}}.  I've never used either of these so that's the limit of my knowledge.
 * —Trappist the monk (talk) 17:57, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Many thanks for suggesting an alternative chart: {{tlx|Graph:Chart}}. This alternative chart is working fine. I have replaced the old chart on the Barasat II page. The problem is solved. Thanks, once again for the help. Cheers. - Chandan Guha (talk) 01:15, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

Reason for sexual crime by human beings and preventive measures therefor as mentioned in Religious Granthas(Books)
Reason for sexual crime by human beings and preventive measures therefor as mentioned in Religious Granthas(Books)'Bold text' Dear Sir,

Since this is a burning problem I want to contribute onthe subject based on my concrete study with reference to Religious Granthas. I request to guide the procedure so that time to time my writings may get response/querries from a member ony religion or mythology on ongoing basis so that their doubts querris may be relied for their satisfaction in best possible way without sticking to any particar mythology in aneutral and universally applicable way for all human beings which is based on individual study and reserchfor decades. Thanking you in anticipation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RAMESH KUMAR BAJORIA (talk • contribs) 09:58, 21 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Hello, . I'm not quite clear what you're asking, but I suspect that Wikipedia is not the right location for it. Wikipedia is not for discussion or argumentation of any kind, unless it is directed at one single goal: making the contents of our articles better (in the sense that they accurately and neutrally summarise what reliable published sources say on the matter). If you wish to make existing articles meet that ideal better (or wish to create new articles which meet that ideal), you are most welcome. But if you wish to initiate discussions, present new arguments, or teach, then please find a platform other than Wikipedia. Please read about the five pillars. --ColinFine (talk) 10:16, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
 * What Colin is saying is: no original research. Alexis Jazz (talk) 11:26, 21 April 2018 (UTC)

Edit conflict
I tried to edit Brushaber v. Union Pacific Railway, then I was told I was in conflict with another user, I have been studying the income tax for over 3 years. I have sited my sources, they can be looked up by anyone. I just spent 5 hours typing this in and now it is gone. Hell if you want to stay stupid that's O.K. I have been fighting the Government over this. What is the use of this discussion if I am wiped out. Look in the Congressional Records June 16, 1909 and March 27, 1943, I am not a lawyer but it's in plain English if you care to see. Is Big Brother in control here, I thought we were looking for facts. Well damn start looking and stop being a sheep! Knowledge is in the facts not the bullshit the lawyers say.1952JohnWhite (talk) 13:56, 21 April 2018 (UTC)


 * An edit conflict is when two people try to edit the same article at the same time. It's annoying, but inevitable occasionally in popular articles.  The display shows the new text and your text, so I just copy my text, leave the page, then go back and make the edit again, or if someone else was editing the same paragraph, I copy my text to a text editor then merge as appropriate.  Wikipedia does not have an autosave facility, so the best policy is to make your edits in small chunks and save (publish) every five minutes.  There is a facility for putting an "in use" template on an article if you are making major edits (see below).  An anonymous editor added some copyright material to Brushaber v. Union Pacific Railroad Co. but I assume that wasn't you.  Wikipedia is not the place to pick a fight with the government, but if you have WP:Reliable sources for your edits, then go ahead and improve the article.  Dbfirs  15:33, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Hello, it is not quite clear from your post but it looks as if you have fallen foul of a regular Wikipedia 'niggle'. An 'edit conflict' comes about when another editor has changed a page whilst you were also in the process of editing it. It does not mean per se that there is anything wrong with your work. You should have seen a page with your changes towards the foot of the page alongside the stored version, giving you the opportunity to copy your edit and place into the stored version. If you are making an edit to a page which required a great deal of time eto complete you can place  at the top of the page temporarily. Eagleash (talk) 15:36, 21 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Hello, . Yes, it can be frustrating when you hit an edit conflict - a purely operational hiccup, and not in any way connected with conflict between editors. However, it sounds from your posting here as if your purpose is righting great wrongs, and that is explicitly not what Wikipedia is for (see that link). For the purposes of Wikipedia, facts are in reliable published secondary sources, and nowhere else. If you think that an article omits or misrepesents what commentators have published in reliable sources, then by all means edit the article to redress the fault. But if you want to present a new conclusion or interpretation from primary sources, then I'm afraid Wikipedia is absolutely not the place to do so: it would count as original research, which is strictly forbidden. --ColinFine (talk) 16:47, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
 * I would strongly recommend that you remove the content of your talk page as quickly as possible. Your talk page is for other editors to communicate with you and should not contain text which resembles an article or which is designed to give the impression that it is Wikipedia content. If it is not removed, it is likely to attract the wrong sort of attention from 'Admin.' Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 19:16, 21 April 2018 (UTC)

Cluny MacPherson - Title misspelling
I have been adding information to the article Cluny MacPherson and realise that this spelling is incorrect. It should be Macpherson. This is the spelling used throughout the article and is verified by other sources I have checked including The Canadian Encyclopedia. It appears to be no simple task to fix this error. Can someone help? Thanks. Twofingered Typist (talk) 18:24, 21 April 2018 (UTC)


 * I started making the necessary moves, but I now need to know whether the spelling of Ewen MacPherson of Cluny has a capital P or not. Should we have a disambiguation page?  What does anyone else think?   Db<i style="color: #4fc;">f</i><i style="color: #6f6;">i</i><i style="color: #4e4;">r</i><i style="color: #4a4">s</i>  18:42, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Looks like it should be a small P as well. http://www.clanmacfarlanegenealogy.info/genealogy/TNGWebsite/getperson.php?personID=I13836&tree=CC in which case it needs to be corrected as well. A disambigation [age is probably a good idea. Thanks for your help. Twofingered Typist (talk) 15:32, 22 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Some Scottish newspapers use a small p and some use a capital P. Perhaps usage has changed over the centuries.  Would you like to adjust the Ewen article if you are sure it should be a small p?   <i style="color: blue;">D</i><i style="color: #0cf;">b</i><i style="color: #4fc;">f</i><i style="color: #6f6;">i</i><i style="color: #4e4;">r</i><i style="color: #4a4">s</i>  16:17, 22 April 2018 (UTC)


 * I think if the Clan's genealogy page uses a small p it should probably be changed, but your solution of "also known as" works too. I'd leave it as it is now. Many thanks for fixing Cluny Macpherson Twofingered Typist (talk) 18:50, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

Barton court grammar school webpage incorrect
Urm, just check the school website, the staff list states that ol' Mr O Mitchell is actually the assistant head and in fact jim is not can we get a change to that please i tried to but got roasted by fatty gargoyle cheers — Preceding unsigned comment added by SamWeinerdogedog (talk • contribs)


 * If you hadn't previously engaged in vandalism, then you would have been able to make that change yourself. The article is now correct.   <i style="color: blue;">D</i><i style="color: #0cf;">b</i><i style="color: #4fc;">f</i><i style="color: #6f6;">i</i><i style="color: #4e4;">r</i><i style="color: #4a4">s</i>  20:33, 21 April 2018 (UTC)