Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2018 April 3

= April 3 =

Deleted page
Hello, I submitted a page about Anne Gamble Kennedy today, and was informed it was deleted. I have since found references to include, which I thought I could add. How do I re-submit the page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nina07011960 (talk • contribs) 01:21, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Hello, . There are several methods, but the simplest and often the best is to ask the deleting admin, in this case, to restore it and move it to the draft space so that you can work on it. I looked at the deleted version, and I have posted such a request on User talk:Bbb23. If Bbb23 agrees, the page will probably be restored at Draft:Anne Gamble Kennedy.
 * Some advice: Too large a proportion of the article as it stood dealt with Kennedy's family and not with Kennedy herself, in my view. Several additional reliable sources that discuss her in some depth would be needed. I urge you to read WP:NBIO and WP:NACADEMIC to better understand how to establish notability. I will place some additional advice on your user talk page. Please remember to sign your posts on discussion pages like this page with four tildes . The Mediawiki software will convert this into your signature and a timestamp. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 01:52, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
 * , the article is now at Draft:Anne Gamble Kennedy. It definitely needs several sources cited. You may want to read Referencing for Beginners. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 02:27, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

Sprained Ankle Page Editing
Hey guys,

I recently made an account here, so I can occasionally edit and help out with what I can.

I noticed that in the "Sprained Ankle" article, the writer talks in detail about everything except for ankle sprain prevention methods. The author also neglects to note that once you sprain your ankle, you are more prone to subsequent sprains (especially in the first year following the initial injury).

I tried to add that to the article, however, I was not able to edit the text. I can only edit/add are links and references. I'm only contacting you because I used to be a very prominent basketball player, but the regular occurrence of ankle sprains cost me my career. I think this adding this information could potentially help a lot of people prevent this horrible snowball-effect injury. If I'm not allowed to make such changes, I kindly ask you to do it.

Here are a couple of links who support what I'm saying. The first one is an article from Foot Health Facts, in which the author mentions that subsequent sprains are much more likely to occur than the initial ankle sprain. The other link is a peer-reviewed article referencing to several studies on the effectiveness of ankle strengthening exercises and ankle protection devices (like tape, or braces) on ankle sprain prevention. https://www.foothealthfacts.org/conditions/chronic-ankle-instability https://www.jospt.org/doi/pdf/10.2519/jospt.2003.33.10.572?code=jospt-site — Preceding unsigned comment added by Insomnia kg (talk • contribs) 03:45, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi and thanks for your message and your contributions to the encyclopedia. I'm surprised to hear you're having difficulties editing the page as I don't see any current restrictions on access to it. Are you having the same problems with any other entries? Does it happen if you try a different web browser or a different device (if you're editing on mobile)?
 * Meanwhile, the best place to make suggestions to an entry, especially something specialized like a medical topic, is on its talk page--in this cased Talk:Sprained ankle. (You'll also see a note at the top of that page with a link to some useful info describing Wikipedia standards for sourcing on medical topics.) If that doesn't get an answer, you could inquire at WP:Wikiproject Medicine. Here at the general Helpdesk, it might be a little while before someone adequately specialized sees your request (medical entries are WAY out of my expertise, so I'm afraid the best I can do is help you find someone who knows more.) Hope that helps! Innisfree987 (talk) 05:42, 3 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Hi thank you so much for taking the time. It turns out I was just being stupid, of course. I proceeded to make my edit in question, so thank you very much!

Feeeling [sic]
I know I've looked before for guidance, and again just now, but what can one do about text, such as titles of external articles, that contain misspellings? I see that one can use [sic] to drop a " [sic] " into a correctly quoted text. And I think I've seen this done elsewhere here within titles, just so that people will know that nahsty [sic] misspelling is in the original.

The motivating example is in the refs in article Spadikam

where the title on that webpage really does have 'orginal'.

So, can I inject this cure for sicness, so that the next spellchecker doesn't have to check? Shenme (talk) 04:02, 3 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Shenme The drawback about inserting the template into a citation template is that the explanatory wikilink does not work and the word "sic" is rendered with three parentheses on either side. And you get a red error note. So perhaps better to let it go in this circumstance, or add a nested footnote to the ref. Hope the feeeling sooon passses Noyster  (talk),  10:29, 3 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Shenme: Another option in this situation is to use the parameter  within the  template, such as  . This suppresses the wikilink and avoids the error. Regards,  GILO   A& E&uArr;  19:41, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

Monitoring our own IP addresses for vandalism
Hi,

I manage a block of IP addresses that are shared by multiple users. IP addresses occasionally get blocked due to vandalism. Is there a way to monitor the IP addresses for vandalism reports so I can address that with the user either so the address doesn't get blocked or is restored promptly? One admin suggested setting up an RSS feed for every single IP address and monitor the changes, but both creating all of the feeds (especially for IPv6) and checking every change is impractical.

Thanks. Dsm (talk) 05:46, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
 * There is Special:BlockList and its API equivalent mw:API:Blocks with an option to list block ranges. Depending on a few technicalities (how large is the IP block you are handling etc.) you could monitor that block feed if you have the technical ability to run simple API requests from your server. Tigraan Click here to contact me 11:44, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

Eghbal Hamidy
reading an article on Patrick Head I see a reference to Mr Eghbal Hamidy with no Wikipedia content however there is an article on the Wikipedia German page about this engineer please bring this page into English version. https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eghbal_Hamidy — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.69.172.170 (talk) 08:21, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
 * The page you link to is on the Indonesian (Bahasa Indonesia) wikipedia, not the German one. There is no German page.  The Indonesian one cites no references at all, so it couldn't be translated as is and created here.  The place to request a page be created is WP:Requested Articles.  Rojomoke (talk) 09:49, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

Creating a new page
How do you create a new page? I was going to create a page about one of the dog crossbreeds I know. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chili The Border Collie (talk • contribs)


 * Hello, . Welcome to the Wikipedia. Creating a new article is hard, and I suggest you get more experience at editing existing articles before you try. But your first article has lots of good advice. You might want to go to WP:WikiProject Dogs and get involved there.
 * By the way, please don't shout, and do sign your posts here with four tildes ( ~ ) --ColinFine (talk) 12:08, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

Sorry. I didn't know that was shouting. I just needed to see what I'm typing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chili The Border Collie (talk • contribs)

Creating a new template
What are the policies for created a new page in the template namespace? There's a template that I would like to create, as there have been several circumstances where I've seen a page that could be improved if they had the template that I want to create or something similar. Do you have to get some kind of approval or have some kind of discussion? I know exactly how I would make the template, so I probably wouldn't need any help, and I can't think of any reason why the template could cause any type of controversy if created. However, I wanted to check to see if there is some kind of policy prohibiting, or discouraging, templates from being created prior to discussion.--SkyGazer 512 talk / contributions / subpages 14:45, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
 * There is no a priori approval needed (see WP:BOLD) but you can have a look at WP:TFD (and links). Tigraan Click here to contact me 16:36, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you; I think I'll create it, as I can't think of any way that it would violate those reasons.--SkyGazer 512 talk / contributions / subpages 16:41, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
 * ✅. See Template:Only primary sources. I'll add shortcuts, documentation, categories, and all that stuff later.--SkyGazer 512 talk / contributions / subpages 16:58, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure that is uncontroversial. We already have Primary sources. Your version says "Only" but there are some issues. Editors may disagree whether a source is primary, whether something is a source at all, and the tag may remain on an article long after a clearly non-primary source has been added. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:26, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

Technical problem with geographical coordinates
In the Steinway & Sons article:

When I click on the link "53°34′27″N 9°55′27″E" in the upper right corner of the article I get a page showing the company's international headquarters in Germany. That is all correct. But when I click on the globe (in the article next to the link "53°34′27″N 9°55′27″E") I get a map showing the American address in the United States. The map should show the address in Germany.

What is wrong?

The two sets of coordinates are:

53.5743°N, 9.9241°W

40.7793°N, -73.8998°W

--SimpleSimpleSimple (talk) 16:43, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
 * I suspect but cannot be certain that this is a Wikidata issue. here is the Wikidata entry for Steinway & Sons.  I've never worked with Wikidata before, but from my experience, when things go pear shaped at Wikipedia, and we can't figure out why, it's probably something happening offsite screwing up here.  -- Jayron 32 18:13, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
 * I can't figure out what's going on, either. The map you get when you click on the globe is produced by WikiMiniAtlas, the authority on which, I think, is Dschwen. He doesn't seem to be around much these days, but perhaps he'll see a notification of my mention of him here and pop up with an answer to your question. Deor (talk) 19:27, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
 * coord uses Module:Coordinates which pulls coordinates from Wikidata. The same happens if you preview the page with only  or just  . It doesn't happen if the same code is previewed on a page without Wikidata coordinates, e.g. Example. coord doesn't appear to have an option to ignore Wikidata coordinates. There is no simple fix at Wikidata because Q156391 has two sets of coordinates. The second set is apparently used by coord but I wouldn't swap them. This is a Wikipedia problem and should be fixed here. I will post to Template talk:Coord. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:51, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

Issues with my preferred browser
Hi guys,

I've had to use chrome to post this edit as I'm getting the following using my version of Opera:

"It appears that your browser does not support Unicode. It is required to edit pages, so your edit was not saved."

Anyone know why I'm getting this error cropping up - i.e. is there some header info my browser is forgetting to send?

86.139.12.99 (talk) 18:42, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
 * I am saving this edit using the current Opera 52.0.2871.40 on Windows 10. I installed Opera to make the test and haven't changed any settings. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:55, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

TWL
I sort of understood that you have to submit your real name in order to access, for example, Highbeam. Is that true, and, if yes, why is that necessary? L293D (☎ • ✎) 19:18, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
 * L293D No, all you need to apply for a HighBeam account is your username, an email address (enabled on Wikipedia) and your reason for wanting access. You apply for this and other partner accounts through The Wikipedia Library Noyster</b> (talk),  20:38, 3 April 2018 (UTC)


 * If I click apply at that link it says "In order to complete your request, Library Card needs permission to access information about you, including your real name and email address, on all projects of this site. No changes will be made with your account." RudolfRed (talk) 20:42, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
 * My apologies if this is not correct. I've been using HighBeam for several years and never had to give any further information. The TWL Terms of Use say:
 * Each publisher who is a member of the Wikipedia Library program requires different specific information in the application. Some publishers may request only an email address, while others request more detailed data, such as your name, location, occupation, or institutional affiliation. When you complete your application, you will only be asked to supply information required by the publishers you have chosen, and each publisher will only receive the information they require. Please see our partner information pages to learn what information is required by each publisher to gain access to their resources. The words "partner information pages" are hyperlinked, but the link doesn't lead anywhere. Perhaps SoWhy can confirm the current requirements <b style="color:seagreen">Noyster</b> (talk),  21:03, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
 * As far as I know, the Library platform needs access to information because some resources require it but HighBeam does not afaik. You need to enter something but they don't check if it's true iirc. might be able to tell you more. Regards <b style="color:#7A2F2F; font-variant:small-caps">So</b><b style="color:#474F84; font-variant:small-caps">Why</b> 07:50, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Right - Highbeam uses email only. You only need to add a name for those resources that require it, eg. Cairn (note Special Requirements section). Nikkimaria (talk) 10:52, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Can't sign on a specific page
On this specific page User:Hummerrocket/CVUA/RafaelS1979, when I try to add my signature going in insert and choosing my signature, the zone is grayed out and I can't explain why. It only occurs on that page and nowhere else. Can somebody help me with that? RafaelS1979 (talk) 21:13, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
 * I see you use the 2017 wikitext editor. You must have enabled "New wikitext mode" or "Automatically enable all new beta features" at Special:Preferences. I guess it disables the signature button in namespaces where edits are not normally signed. It works on talk pages and the Wikipedia namespace. Try typing  manually. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:38, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Ok thanks, I'll have look at that. RafaelS1979 (talk) 16:48, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

Medgar Evers Talk Page - New section appearing between previous section and previous section's footnotes again (again!)
Hi, sorry for all the incompetence ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Medgar_Evers#Weird_sentence. Help appreciated. TiA. T 88.89.217.90 (talk) 22:50, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
 * I have added reflist talk to the section where the references are defined.[//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Medgar_Evers&diff=834100452&oldid=834099153] PrimeHunter (talk) 22:59, 3 April 2018 (UTC)