Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2018 August 14

= August 14 =

notwithstanding ( not comparable)
In the above subject line I show how notwithstanding is presented. I do not understand the word not, not comparable to what? What is notwithstanding not comparable to or with? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.198.244.91 (talk)
 * This is Wikipedia. After some searching I guess you refer to wiktionary:notwithstanding at our sister site Wiktionary. "comparable" is a link to wiktionary:Appendix:Glossary. "notwithstanding (not comparable)" means that the adverb "notwithstanding" is not comparable. The meaning of this is described at the link. You cannot say "more notwithstanding" or "most notwithstanding". See also Adverb. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:29, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

Thomas Davis (priest)
Please help  -  I  have  added  a  file  (photo)  which  SHOULD  go  at the  top of the  page. Please re-place it if you are  able. Thankyou 203.132.68.1 (talk) 01:29, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
 * I think it's better where it is. If it were moved into the Lede section, it would create too much white space. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 94.0.130.143 (talk) 03:38, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
 * HELP PLEASE  -  I  have  accidently  removed the  Lede.  Plesae  replace  if able.  Thanks  203.132.68.1 (talk) 03:42, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

Please return the Lede  sentence. I removed  it  accidently  whilst  attempting  to  "improve"  file. thanks 203.132.68.1 (talk) 04:00, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
 * ✅ Eagleash (talk) 04:09, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Once again, please do not create additional threads with the same heading. Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 09:56, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

Categorisation for people trying multiple times
Annie Aves is primarily known for having been tried multiple times for the same crime(s). Is there a categorisation for that? I'm sure there must be, but I can't find it. Stuartyeates (talk) 03:42, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
 * I didn't find a category for that but you can search yourself in SPECIAL:CATEGORIES. You can add a category also, read WP:CATEGORIZATION. Thinker78 (talk) 18:08, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

FRSLABS DRAFT APPROVAL
Question for administrator

 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Parvez.Shine (talk • contribs) 04:59, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
 * As the reviewers have suggested, better sourcing to establish notability. Please read the advice given in the pink and grey box on the draft: follow the links, read the instructions, then ameliorate the draft accordingly. Sam Sailor 05:37, 14 August 2018 (UTC) (Closing Admin help, not a question that needs admin intervention.)


 * At Wikipedia, the term administrator means a very specific set of additional chores and the permissions that go with them. Almost all editorial decisions and tasks are done by editors, not administrators. Just like you and the rest of us, the reviewers are editors and can handle the acceptance or rejection of this draft without administrative action. Such decisions are made by consensus. -Arch dude (talk) 14:23, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

Help !
Help ! I Forgot My Password my User Name is User:TheBigBoss3900 is there any way to change my password to a easier one? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.100.111.128 (talk) 05:49, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
 * No you can't change your password without logging in. You may register another account if you want. ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus  (talk to me) 05:51, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes, you can. If you entered your e-mail address when you signed up, you can have a new password generated. Click on the "Log in" link in the upper-right corner. Enter your user name, and click the button near the bottom of the page called "Mail me a new password". You should receive an e-mail message with a new random password; you can use it to log in, go to your preferences, and change your password to something you'll remember. Sam Sailor 06:14, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
 * But your account hasn't stored an email address. If you don't remember the password then you have to create a new account. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:26, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes that's why I said can't change the password. ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus  (talk to me) 09:36, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
 * PrimeHunter, where do you lookup if an account has an email address stored? It is, as far as I know, perfectly possible to register with and confirm an email address and then disable WP:EMAIL. Sam Sailor 09:57, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
 * "This user has not specified a valid email address." If the user blocks others from sending email, I think the message will be different. ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus  (talk to me) 10:01, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Right. The quote is from Special:EmailUser/TheBigBoss3900. It can also say "This user has chosen not to receive email from other users." My user page has given my name for 12 years but I recommend only referring to users by their username, signature name or variations of them. Otherwise it can be confusing to others, and some users later remove their name for privacy reasons. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:14, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
 * There is a special case. If a user has set an address but not confirmed it then Special:EmailUser says the same as when no address is set but the user can still use Special:PasswordReset. At least a mail is sent. If the address isn't confirmed then it may be because they cannot receive mails. I don't know whether others can distinguish between no address and an unconfirmed address. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:21, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank yoy, and, you are both right. I disabled WP:EMAIL on this account, and logged in from my alt account and went to Special:EmailUser/Sam Sailor, and it then returns "This user has chosen not to receive email from other users." @PrimeHunter: Note taken in re username. Sam Sailor 10:26, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
 * But given that answers can be looked as reference for similar questions, I think it would have helped if you added "If you didn't provide an email" to your answer, otherwise people reading this answer might conclude that they can't get another password even if they associated an email, as Sam Sailor assumed.Cheers! Thinker78 (talk) 18:19, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Column formatting
If my browser window isn't pretty wide, I end up with just one column of films in Warren Hymer. Is there a remedy? Clarityfiend (talk) 06:29, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
 * clear before the filmography section will allow the columns to use space below the infobox but will create whitespace to the left of the infobox. I would prefer this option but it would look better with a longer lead or a new short section before the filmography. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:21, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I've expanded the text a bit. Clarityfiend (talk) 07:31, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

How long does it usually take to process a copyright violation on English Wikipedia?
The article Xinjiang reeducation camps was found to include copyright violation content. According to detectors, there are about 60% content from the original article being copied from other sources. SInce then, the article have been rewritten to exclude copyright-violation content at Talk:Xinjiang reeducation camps/Temp. How long would one need to wait before the content in the temp page can be copied over to replace the original copyright violation page?C933103 (talk) 09:40, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
 * the instructions in the big copyvio notice are not completely clear. It appears to me that you are free to replace the article with a rewrite at any time. You are then supposed to add a note to the article's talk page to indicate that you have done so. If an editor who is more experienced at handling copyvio does not agree, then I hope that editor will update the instructions. I think you should just replace the article now, but if you prefer to get a better opinion, feel free to contact any of the regulars editors of Copyright problems to ask for guidance. those are the guys who will deal with the problem if I'm wrong. -Arch dude (talk) 18:00, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
 * It is not clear that the temp version is copyright violation-free. I ran the Copyvio Detector: and it still found problematic material. Rmhermen (talk) 22:14, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
 * You ran the Copyvio Detector based on the revision id 852694050 which is one of the version being flagged with copyright violation, instead of the temp version. I'm now moving the temp version to the main article. C933103 (talk) 04:59, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Gray box at top of history at International Congress of Mathematicians
International Congress of Mathematicians seems to start with a gray box that I can't figure out where it is coming from. Ideas?Naraht (talk) 13:00, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Fixed. The was indented by one space, causing something weird and unintended. Maproom (talk) 13:39, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

Kennedy_Space_Center_Launch_Complex_39
Hi guys,

In the section "Launch history" of this article, there is a graph about the launches. The figures on the left are the number of launches. It looks very strange that the numbers used are 2.5 then 5 then 7.5 and so on. There will never be 2 launches and a half so I guess it would make sense to use 2, 4, 6 and so on. I don't want to mess up the graph so if anyone is good at it, thanks for doing it! Ericdec85 (talk) 13:04, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
 * This is a "feature" of the chart module, and there is currently no workaround. See: Module talk:Chart I have never programmed in Lua. If you know how, feel free to fix it. -Arch dude (talk) 18:55, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Try asking at Village pump (technical). Thinker78 (talk) 18:27, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Responding to comments
How do I respond to a comment on on a talk contribution of mine about the article PhoeniciaBeebledum (talk) 14:40, 14 August 2018 (UTC)Beebledum?


 * There is an "edit" link alongside the header of the section at Talk:Phoenicia. Add your comment after the one to which you wish to reply, and indent your reply by preceding it with one more colon than the message to which you are replying. --David Biddulph (talk) 14:49, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
 * You can also read the full instructions in Help:Talk pages. Thinker78 (talk) 19:21, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Ref date consistency in talk page
Hello, I was visiting the WP:REFBPLAIN page earlier when I saw that the publication and access dates are of different styles (the former being MMDDYY, and the latter a numerical date). It's a small detail, but it may confuse newcomers and make them ignore page date consistencies in the future (whole page using only MMDDYY, DDMMYY, or digits) when they edit. Can we change the access date to MMDDYY instead? aNode  (discuss)  14:58, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
 * There is no requirement that access and archive dates have the same format as publication dates (which should be the same format as other dates in the article). See MOS:DATEUNIFY.
 * —Trappist the monk (talk) 15:08, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

Module mistake
I am a wikipedia user who edits in English and Malayalam wikipedia. My doubt is: Why does a module page appear like a normal page?Please check [] page. Adithyak1997 03:21, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
 * [//ml.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E0%B4%98%E0%B4%9F%E0%B4%95%E0%B4%82:UserLinks/shared&action=info&uselang=en Page information] says "Page content model	wikitext". A local administrator will have a "change" link on the page I linked. The English Wikipedia version [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Module:UserLinks/shared&action=info] says "Page content model	Scribunto". I'm not sure why the Malayalam version says wikitext. The page was imported from the English Wikipedia. Your signature must link to your user page, talk page or contributions per WP:SIGLINK. The easiest way to get a valid signature is to leave the signature field blank at Special:Preferences and have no check mark at "Treat the above as wiki markup". PrimeHunter (talk) 21:16, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your reply. I have changed my signature as mentioned by you. Regarding the module, is there any method can I change the wikitext into a Scribunto module?Adithyak1997 (talk) 05:44, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for fixing the signature. The page content model can only be changed by a Malayalam administrator so you have to ask for it. I don't know the procedures of the Malayalam Wikipedia but [//ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%B4%AA%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%B0%E0%B4%A4%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%AF%E0%B5%87%E0%B4%95%E0%B4%82:%E0%B4%89%E0%B4%AA%E0%B4%AF%E0%B5%8B%E0%B4%95%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%A4%E0%B4%BE%E0%B4%95%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%95%E0%B4%B3%E0%B5%81%E0%B4%9F%E0%B5%86_%E0%B4%AA%E0%B4%9F%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%9F%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%95?username=&group=sysop&wpsubmit=&wpFormIdentifier=mw-listusers-form&limit=50 here] is a list of their administrators. They may not know the feature but as mentioned, they will have a "change" link on the page I linked. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:44, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Adithyak1997 (talk) 09:58, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Some articles with page images do not show with page images icons in Special:Nearby lists
The University of Colorado Boulder page has a page image listed on it's page information and there it seems to be correctly selected based on the logic documented on mediawiki's image choice algorithm. But if I'm looking at the list that appears in Special:Nearby for coordinates that would include it (e.g. 40.0140226,-105.2505826) the image icon isn't displayed next to its list entry. Is there additional criteria for page images for them to be displayed in Special:Nearby? This is the most recent example, but I see this issue often. Thanks. - Scarpy (talk) 20:04, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
 * The page image File:University of Colorado seal.svg is non-free. Some features will only display a free page image for copyright reasons. Special:Nearby appears to be one of them. The API can show whether a page image is registered as free. Compare [//en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&prop=pageimages&titles=University%20of%20Colorado%20Boulder&pilicense=any pilicense=any] and [//en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&prop=pageimages&titles=University%20of%20Colorado%20Boulder&pilicense=free pilicense=free] when requesting a page image for University of Colorado Boulder. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:51, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
 * thanks! On the topic, do you know is there more documentation on Special:Nearby? I use it pretty often would be interested to see if there's a way to expand the reach beyond 10km or 50 articles (which seems to be the default). Also curious where it gets this "short description" from (e.g "public university in Boulder, Colorado, USA and flagship of the University of Colorado system" in this case). - Scarpy (talk) 02:02, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
 * [partial answer] The "short description" comes from Wikidata. On the University of Colorado Boulder page, click "Wikidata item" in the left sidebar, and you'll end up here where the short description can be seen and edited. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:13, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
 * I don't know user documentation for Special:Nearby. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:54, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks John! No worries,, thanks again for all of your help! - Scarpy (talk) 13:57, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Changing photograph
Hi,

I represent my grandmother, Lucienne Bloch, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucienne_Bloch and on her Wikipedia page there is a photograph of her with a fellow she met once.

I'm hoping to switch this photograph out with one of her by herself.

Tried to see if there was any info in FAQ but couldn't find anything.

Not sure if this is a general knowledge question or not. Sorry.

Not sure how I find out if you respond to this or not. It's a little confusing.

Thanks!

~ Lucienne Allen — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lucienne1 (talk • contribs) 21:21, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
 * The person who owns the copyright to a picture can upload the picture. In general the photographer (or the photographer's heir) owns the copyright. Go to main page, click on the "upload" button near the top right, and follow the instructions. This uploads the picture to Wikimedia Commons, and from there your article can accesss this new picture by using the filename you gave it. If you have problems, please come back here again and we'll try to help. -Arch dude (talk) 21:32, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
 * The full instructions are in Help:Pictures but you should read Conflict of interest as well. Thinker78 (talk) 19:35, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

FA suggestions??
So i want to nominate a FA candidate, went here, however, I just realized the page hasn't been updated in seven years o.O? Where is the right place to make such a suggestion? Thanks. prokaryotes (talk) 23:49, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Found it here, but above page should possibly be locked. prokaryotes (talk) 00:47, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge
Sorry - I  have  accidently  removed bits of the  info  box. Sorry - please  fix  Srbernadette (talk) 23:51, 14 August 2018 (UTC) Edited 23:57, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
 * HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 00:21, 15 August 2018 (UTC)