Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2018 August 19

= August 19 =

Another map problem
Hi guys,

Yesterday you already helped me with a map problem I had on the Kinderdijk. I'm working on some more Netherlands pages and have three problems:


 * The first one concerns Zaanse Schans. The Netherlands location map (in the infobox) does not show where the place is in the country although coordinates are filled in.
 * The second one concerns Amsterdam. I would like to change "Location of Amsterdam in Netherlands" into "Location of Amsterdam in the Netherlands" and "Show map of Netherlands" into "Show map of the Netherlands".
 * The third and last one concerns Grachtengordel. In the infobox there is a link "[UNESCO World Heritage Site]" and I would like it to change into "[UNESCO] [World Heritage site]".

Thanks so much for your help! WhatsUpWorld (talk) 13:39, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
 * I fixed the first problem. doesn't support a "locmapin" field; you have to use "pushpin_map". Deor (talk) 13:57, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
 * I don't think the third one can be done as things stand. The link is coded that way in . I don't really see the problem, as it only takes an extra click to get from the World Heritage site article to the UNESCO article. Deor (talk) 14:10, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Can't you change the code to avoid the redirection and have two different links? Thanks for solving the first one! Maybe I'll consider using the infobox template of Kinderdijk on the Grachtengordel page. WhatsUpWorld (talk) 14:12, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

LT Bobby Ross
Hello! I would like to know why you have nothing about LT Bobby Ross? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.174.50.227 (talk) 15:40, 19 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Hello IP, and welcome to Wikipedia. This person ? I did a quick google/news search and couldn't find any sources that would be considered reliable/enough to base a WP-article on. However, if you have such sources, you are welcome to try to write an article. It's not super-easy, but if there's good sources, it can be done. Start by taking the time to read Your first article. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:06, 19 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Please note carefully: The only fundamental requirement for an article is that the subject must be notable, as Wikipedia defines it, not as you define it: see WP:NOTABLE. While we strongly prefer that your article is well-written, even a poorly-written article on a notable subject will be retained, and even the most perfectly-written article on a non-notable subject will be deleted. Unless you can establish notability, please do not even try to create an article, as it will end in frustration. -Arch dude (talk) 17:00, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

AC/DC CORRECTIONS
In regards to the musical artist AC/DC (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AC/DC) SOMEONE keeps replacing legitimate information with fake news (e.g. Axl Rose). AXL ROSE (the "vocalist" of Guns n Roses) NEVER was a member of the band AC/DC. He was a guest on a handful of shows to finish out the bands last tour, Rock or Bust and nothing more. As of August, 2018, it has been confirmed that Brian Johnson (still, the official AC/DC singer since 1980) is back in the studio with the band, as is original drummer Phil Rudd. Also, please reference the OFFICIAL AC/DC WEBSITE WWW.ACDC.COM (c) Columbia Records/Sony Music Entertainment, Inc. regarding who are the actual members of AC/DC. https://www.acdc.com/the-band   ((ie. the site will be updated shortly to re-introduce Phil Rudd back into the lineup). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.106.226.207 (talk) 19:13, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
 * The information you mention is cited in the article. If you have some issue with it, you should discuss the matter with the other editors on the article's talk page, Talk:AC/DC. 331dot (talk) 19:16, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

Adding hidden text to a citation
Hi. It's been a very long time since I've written, and I'm rusty.

I know that it's possible to put text into an article that can only be seen when you're in edit source, but I forgot how to do that. Can someone please remind me? I had to jump through some hoops to get the date for a citation, and want to note where it can be found in hidden text.

Many thanks, The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 19:36, 19 August 2018 (UTC)


 * You can use to hide your comment like this:   ( hidden ).   See WP:Hidden text for more detail.   Dbfirs  19:46, 19 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 19:53, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

Giving accounts to other people
Let’s say I got bored of Wikipedia (which could be possible in the future because of school). If so, am I allowed to give my account to someone else, like friends or family? Or does that violate WP:NOSHARING? Torrent01 (is cool) (talk) 19:46, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes, it would violate WP:NOSHARE. As is stated there, "Sharing an account – or the password to an account – with others is not permitted".  If you think you might leave Wikipedia, you should just stop using your account. 331dot (talk) 19:50, 19 August 2018 (UTC)


 * No, you should not give your account or your password to other people because each account must be an individual. If you get bored, just stop using your account, and you can come back to it at some future date if you wish.  You might like to mention on your user page that you are no longer an active editor, then you can remove the message if you come back.   Db<i style="color: #4fc;">f</i><i style="color: #6f6;">i</i><i style="color: #4e4;">r</i><i style="color: #4a4">s</i>  19:53, 19 August 2018 (UTC)


 * There's also WP:COMPROMISED to consider. If you are planning on never returning and want to pass the username on to someone else, what would be safer is to let whoever you want to "give" the name to register a similarly named account (like Torrent02 or Torrent001), post on your talk page and theirs that they have permission to usurp your username, then retire your current account. Otherwise, they just need to make their own account and you keep yours to yourself. Ian.thomson (talk) 19:53, 19 August 2018 (UTC)


 * That would violate no sharing. It would cause problems with copyright attribution. It would cause problems with anti-vandalism efforts. It would be gaming the system for auto-confirmed and extended protection. The point of having an account is having some knowledge of the person behind the account. If your friends or family want to edit, they should get their own account. ~  ONUnicorn (Talk&#124;Contribs) problem solving 19:57, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

Retirement
Im going to have to retire because i never get my password right can you please visit my user page User:TheBigBoss3900 and put the retired template ? im sorry i couldn't return to Wikipedia in time. 73.100.111.128 (talk) 20:44, 19 August 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.100.111.128 (talk) 20:42, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
 * ✅ You are of course free to simply register a new account. I’d reccomens setting up email this time so this doesn’t happen again. Beeblebrox (talk) 22:54, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

How to create preview text for Wikipedia searches
I've been seeing a form of preview text in Wikipedia search results, as below: What I mean is the line that says "public research university". I've been unable to find instructions on how to create this kind of preview text for pages I'm editing. I'll appreciate any instructions you can provide, or show me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PeterNordgren (talk • contribs) 21:00, 19 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Hello, . I think that short description - like the one that appears in the mobile App - comes from Wikidata; in this case Q838330. You can get to it by picking "Wikidata item" from the sidebar of University of Wisconsin-Madison. --ColinFine (talk) 22:57, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you ColinFine. I see that's the case.  I'll work there. --PeterNordgren (talk)  —Preceding undated comment added 04:01, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Rather than using a short description from Wikidata, which is outside the control of the English Wikipedia, you can use Template:Short description which overrides anything from Wikidata. --David Biddulph (talk) 05:18, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Although you are free to work at Wikidata as well,, it is preferable to add a local short description here on Wikipedia, since it is much more visible here and allows us to better control and monitor changes to it. You can read more about the initiative to add a local short description to every mainspace article at Short description and its associated WikiProject. —Nøkkenbuer (talk • contribs) 05:26, 20 August 2018 (UTC); edited at 05:29, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

HARD COPY REFERENCES
How can I use a hard copy of a reference source (unavailable online)? Do I scan it? If so, how do I then convert it to a link? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Django1887 (talk • contribs) 22:23, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
 * No, that would be book piracy, which we do not allow.
 * Just cite a professionally-published source the same way you would an online source.
 * The source needs to be something that someone else could access without driving to your house or some county office or whatever, like maybe they could order it off of Amazon or something. Ian.thomson (talk) 22:25, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
 * , please provide full bibliographic information in any such reference. For example, if you use a book, provide title and subtitle, author, publisher, publication date, relevant page numbers and the ISBN number. <b style="color:#070">Cullen</b><sup style="color:#707">328  Let's discuss it  22:31, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
 * WP:CITEHOW has detailed information on how to do this, or just use citebook and fill out the relvant fields. Beeblebrox (talk) 22:47, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

The Three-Revert Rule
Reverting your own edits doesn't count toward the revert count in this rule, does it? Just wanted to make sure before risking it, lest I inadvertently break this rule and face punishment. Torrent01 (is cool) (talk) 22:56, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Dear Torrent01, undoing your own edit does not count as a revert. It has to be an edit by other editors. "An edit or a series of consecutive edits that undoes other editors actions—whether in whole or in part—counts as a revert." Sincerely, Taketa (talk) 23:01, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
 * It takes two to tangle. Clarityfiend (talk) 05:46, 20 August 2018 (UTC)