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= August 20 =

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I was the inventor, Burton Rubin. The article attributes the invention to Robert Stiller. I ha d the idea years before he invested in the Company. I traveled Europe & The U.S. to build the company. He handled the inside administrative work and loaned the company the funds to buy inventory. Please see Larry Sloman's book, Reefer Madness". He mainly interviewed me. Burt Rubin (talk) 14:22, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi, Burt. Please bring this up on the article's talk page. You clearly have one very good source (WP:RS). Since you have an unavoidable conflict of interest (See WP:COI) Please do not edit the article directly, but instead make suggestions for editing in a new section on the talk page, and add then add edit request (with the curly braces) to the section to attract the attention of a editor. I feel that the book is a sufficient reference by itself, but if you can also find additional references (e.g., in contemporaneous newspaper articles) those would be great, also. -Arch dude (talk) 18:04, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Categories
How can an editor find out what articles belong in a category? The obvious way is by reading the category's documentation, which I would expect to find on its talk page; but whenever I've looked there the talk page has provided no guidance.

This question is provoked by the recent addition of Battle of Blenheim to Category:Battles in Bavaria. The site of the battle is now in Bavaria; but at the time of the battle was in the Duchy of Pfalz-Neuburg. That's just an example where a "definition" of the category would be useful. There are many others. Maproom (talk) 18:39, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
 * The category page is itself editable, so I believe the category definition belongs there, not on the category's talk page. I have no idea what policies and guidelines, if any, apply to the implicit definition of any category, or to categories relating to geopolitical regions, so here is my opinion: If a category name is subject to interpretation, then the actual definition should be placed on the category page. That definition can then be changed or modified just like an article or a guideline, based on consensus arrived at via discussion on the category's talk page. Note that a category can be split into multiple subcategories if the two competing definitions are incompatible. (Here's a question for you: Where should I express this opinion in order to have it become part of a guideline?) -Arch dude (talk) 18:59, 20 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Guideline info is here WP:MOSCAT. Please pay particular attention to WP:CATDEF and WP:CATVER. Categories are not placed in an article based on an editors interpretation of things, rather they are based on sourced info and the fact that they are a defining characteristic of the subject of the article. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 19:06, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
 * The OP was not asking about which categories to associate with an article, but rather how to determine the definition of a category. An editor cannot adhere to those two guidelines unless the editor can determine a category's definition. -Arch dude (talk) 20:03, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
 * And of course placement of the category documentation is covered at Categorization, which agrees with the opinion I stated earlier. I should have looked for this before answering, but better late than never I suppose. -Arch dude (talk) 19:59, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you all for the advice, which I have read, along with WP:MOSCAT. I am none the wiser.
 * essential–—defining–—characteristics of a topic. Is it an essential, or defining, property of the Battle of Blenheim that it was fought in territory that would later become part of Bavaria? I have no idea. That's a philosophical question, which I am not equipped to answer.
 * It should be clear from verifiable information in the article why it was placed in each of its categories. Verifiability is not in question: interpretation of the category name is.
 * If a category name is subject to interpretation, then the actual definition should be placed on the category page. But it never is.
 * No-one here has expressed a view on whether Battle of Blenheim belongs in Category:Battles in Bavaria, and I am no closer to an answer.
 * Here's another "interpretation" problem. Solomon Mestel was of Polish Jewish ethnicity, and was born in Galicia when it was part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire. He migrated to Autralia in 1923, by when Galicia had become part of Poland, and later to England. Later still, that part of Galicia became part of Ukraine. The article on Mestel was in Category:Australian people of Ukrainian-Jewish descent; I removed it on the grounds that he was not of any kind of Ukrainian descent. I see that it is still in Category:Ukrainian emigrants to the United Kingdom and Category:Ukrainian Orthodox rabbis; I believe that it should not be. The category pages themselves provide no guidance. Maproom (talk) 20:42, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Infobox issues
Hi, I've been having some difficulty editing the Richmond upon Thames London Borough Council elections page, in particular to upload a new infobox. I place it in the correction section- Political Control- however it keeps jumping down to the by-elections section. This is the infobox in question:



Is there anyway to fix this so the box is in the right place? BitterGiant (talk) 19:39, 20 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Yes, you need to terminate the table correctly, see . --David Biddulph (talk) 19:48, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

John from Idegon
This account recently vandalized a page which I regularly monitor. As I viewed the account history, it seems the users take it upon themselves to decide that articles should have large chunks or information removed.Andy Johnston (talk) 19:55, 20 August 2018 (UTC)


 * The content which John removed was entirely unsourced, so you are entirely incorrect to describe his actions as vandalism. Please read WP:Vandalism. --David Biddulph (talk) 20:02, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Hello!
I need someones opinion on weather or not to add a confirmed fact to a Wikipedia page.

Link to article Talk page with additional information:
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_Caribbean_countries_by_population#Guyana_is_a_Caribbean_Country_too

Thankyou for helping me. --Mrwoogi010 (talk) 20:10, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Just my opinion, yes, you may. I don't think it's too controversial to add Guyana to that list, given that official descriptions from UNDP and Commonwealth.org slot it as being also a part of the Caribbean. Lourdes  05:33, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

Ensuring up to date research/references for an article for a company
Hi there, I know there's a very clear conflict of interest with representatives of an organization/company making edits or suggesting changes to that company's article wiki page. My hope is to better understand how to best engage with page editors to provide more up to date references and research that readers of the page would be interested to see as they represent a more complete picture of the organization at present time.

Article: Intuitive Surgical

My thanks in advance, Mary-Jayne Trainor, Sr. Mgr. Social Media, Intuitive Surgical Mjtrainor (talk) 20:17, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
 * While direct edits are strongly discouraged, there is absolutely no prohibition against a paid editor making edit suggestions. I would say that such recommendations are actually encouraged. A paid editor such as yourself must declare your status: see WP:PAID. any editor with a conflict of interest should make edit suggestions on the article's talk page: see WP:COI, so please put this suggestion there. You "engage the editors" be adding edit request (with the curly braces) to the section in the talk page where you make your suggestion. -Arch dude (talk) 20:42, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Hello, in addition to the great advice above, I have also added a few more links regarding COI and Wikipedia-editing in general on your user talkpage (and tweaked your original message a bit for better formatting) . But please feel free to ask additional questions here anytime. GermanJoe (talk) 13:03, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

Someone keeps reposting inaccurate information about me
I was trying to edit the information on my own wikipedia entry, but it is inaccurate, and someone keeps changing it back. I suspect it is the same people who attacked me and posted inaccurate information about me all over the internet last summer. What can I do? Can I get Wikipedia to just entirely delete my page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kadettwyler (talk • contribs) 22:06, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Your page won't be deleted solely because you might want it to be- but it does need to be accurate per our policy on biographies of living people. I'm not sure which information it is that is inaccurate, but most of what you removed seems to be cited to reliable sources like the Washington Post and some other (what seem to be) reputable news organizations.  If they are incorrect, you should start a discussion on the article talk page (Talk:Katherine Ann Dettwyler) explaining your concerns along with any supporting sources you have. 331dot (talk) 22:20, 20 August 2018 (UTC)


 * That page is not "your" entry. It is Wikipedia's article about you. You should not edit that article directly. See WP:AUTOBIOGRAPHY. If you have suggestions for improvements to the article, make the suggestions on the article's talk page instead. Do not remove properly-sourced information from any article on Wikipedia, including that one: that is considered vandalism and will get you blocked. After all that, if inaccurate information has been published in a reliable source and then included in the article, Your best move is to find another reliable source that has the accurate information, and ask that it be included in the article. -Arch dude (talk) 02:41, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Kadettwyler
 * For help regarding Wikipedia article on you, go to the Help link below:
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/Help
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/Help
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/Help


 * Neuralnewt (talk) 03:33, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

List of 2018 albums
What No December Albums There are 3 Albums listed on the Genius 2018 website can you put them on the List of 2018 Albums please I would accept That. 68.103.78.155 (talk) 22:52, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
 * You can place your request on the article's talk page, just like other editors are doing there. Warmly, Lourdes  05:28, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

RECUPERATE ACCOUNT
HELLO.

HOW COULD I RECUPERATE MY LOGIN INFORMATION? I'M REALLY LOST AND WANT TO UPDATE INFORMATION, UPLOAD PICS, ETC...

UPDATE MY WIKKI. HOW CAN I DO THIS? HELP PLEASE!

LUISA FERNANDA — Preceding unsigned comment added by 40.138.207.157 (talk) 23:02, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
 * First, turn off your capslock. Typing in all caps is like screaming on the internet.
 * Second, if you set up an email address with your account, just click "Forgot your password?" on the login page. If you did not set up an email address with your account, then there is no way to recover your log in information. Ian.thomson (talk) 23:16, 20 August 2018 (UTC)


 * If by "I . . . want to . . .update my wikki" you mean you want to edit the article Luisa Fernanda and this article is about you, you should not be doing so yourself: please see Autobiography.
 * If you have additional information from published Reliable sources, and/or pictures whose copyright you legally own, and think they would improve the article, you can suggest edits and additions on the article's Talk page, but you should leave disinterested editors with no Conflict of interest to decide whether or not to carry them out. This page explains the procedure in more detail.
 * Please remember (if you are in fact this person), it isn't your article, it is Wikipedia's article about you.
 * All the above applies equally if instead you/the subject concerned are actually Luisa Fernanda Rudi Ubeda. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.212.99.189 (talk) 10:45, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

Glen Affric
Ref number  46  has  an ibsn  number  as  it is   a  book. Please put in the  correct  one - I  got  it  wrong. Thankyou. 203.132.68.1 (talk) 23:24, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
 * ✅ Eagleash (talk) 00:18, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

Spider-Man in film
Ref number 53  is  in  red - please  fix  if  able  Thankyou203.132.68.1 (talk) 23:52, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
 * ✅ There was a stray pipe in the title parameter. Eagleash (talk) 00:10, 21 August 2018 (UTC)