Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2018 August 21

= August 21 =

I just fullfilled one Category:Wikipedia requested images, adding one image to Bragança Paulista. How do I remove this article from the list?
Hi, I added one picture from Wikimedia Commons which is also used in Portuguese Wikipedia about Bragança Paulista, so it was a simple addition to the article. But I can't edit the Talk page. How do I remove the request? Thanks! User:Tetizeraz. Send me a ✉️ ! 02:01, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
 * ✅ - - &#8213; Mandruss   &#9742;  02:13, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Oh, I see. Thanks ! User:Tetizeraz. Send me a ✉️ ! 03:34, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

How to Correct Article Subtitle (as it appears on mobile, Wikipedia Beta app)
I was reading the page for Ron Arnold on a mobile device and noticed that the subtitle was incorrect.

It reads as follows (on mobile):

>Ron Arnold

>Environmentalist

Ron Arnold an Anti-Environmentalist, or more accurately, a proponent of the Wise use movement

Thanks!

Neuralnewt (talk) 02:34, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi Neuralnewt, I suppose sometimes the subtitle also says "American writer". But what you and I are seeing is not Wikipedia, but probably the Google infobox that pops up; Wikipedia doesn't directly control what appears in that infobox, although the contents of Ron Howard's Wikipedia page may be used by Google to generate its infobox contents. Lourdes  05:25, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Actually, that's probably the Wikidata item for Arnold. I don't know enough about the individual to contemplate changing it, but it would be easy enough to do so.  Rojomoke (talk) 05:56, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Ok. Thanks Rojomoke. That sounds quite right actually. Addressing him as an anti-environmentalist may be not a NPOV statement. I've left the description as writer and activist. Hope that sounds alright. Lourdes  10:27, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
 * , Thank you,
 * I can confirm that the issue has been corrected on mobile.
 * I should have been more clear before- I am using the Wikipedia Beta app on my cell phone. Sorry for the confusion. Neuralnewt (talk) 14:00, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
 * I should have been more clear before- I am using the Wikipedia Beta app on my cell phone. Sorry for the confusion. Neuralnewt (talk) 14:00, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
 * I should have been more clear before- I am using the Wikipedia Beta app on my cell phone. Sorry for the confusion. Neuralnewt (talk) 14:00, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

Cliffe Castle Museum
Please fix - I  have  accidently  removed  information  and  a file from  History  section  -  whilst  trying  to  make  file  slightly  bigger. I will  stop  trying. Sorry. please fix. 203.132.68.1 (talk) 02:44, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
 * I think that the error has been corrected, IP editor. Does the article look OK now? Cullen328  Let's discuss it  03:00, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

Notability questions
I want to write an article about a book (not mine), but not sure whether the book is notable or not. I would hate to write an article only to have it deleted. Where should I ask questions about notability? I read the notability guidelines, but they are too vague, and subject to interpretations. --Urod (talk) 05:38, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Hello Urod. Did you read our notability guidelines specifically for books? What did you find too vague in the same and what did you not understand? Write here and we could clarify. Warmly, Lourdes  05:53, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes, I read this text. Everything is vague, and I know too well how wikipedians twist the rules far beyond their plain meaning. I am sick and tired of petty politics here, which is full of personal revenges, arbitrary sock puppet acquisations and cliques. So the question is, where can I ask whether a book is notable or not?  Urod (talk) 10:29, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Here. Which book is it? Lourdes  16:36, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
 * "The Inmates Are Running the Asylum" Urod (talk) 03:47, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Please pick one of the five criteria the guideline lists, and then argue, with references, that the book meets that criterion. With this approach, other editors can discuss your argument, rather than arguing in the abstract whether or not the book is notable. So, what book, which of the five criteria is met, why you feel it is met, and what references do you have? -Arch dude (talk) 17:18, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
 * "The Inmates Are Running the Asylum" Urod (talk) 03:47, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
 * If you are referring to the book by Alan Cooper, it is covered by a paragraph in that article. If you feel that it deserved its own article, please respond to my other questions: which of the 5 notability criteria and why. -Arch dude (talk) 03:57, 22 August 2018 (UTC)


 * If the book is the one Arch dude is referring to ("The Inmates are Running the Asylum" by Alan Cooper), then the answer is "Yes", the book is notable per my search and per WP:NBOOK. There are stellar reviews of the book available online, from scholarly sources to magazine reviews, apart from secondary quotes, which seem enough for the book to have its standalone article. Here are some of the many sources I could find in a short search: Thanks, Lourdes  09:53, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

help
Help me link this with this, Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hwddjjewjdnssn (talk • contribs) 07:09, 21 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Such links are (in general) made in Wikidata, see this edit. On the left hand menu of the article there is a link to "Wikidata item". --David Biddulph (talk) 07:20, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
 * There is additional problem at zh-yue:余英時:
 * Lua error in 模組:Authority_control at line 241: attempt to concatenate field 'NLC_URL' (a nil value).
 * with the following backtrace:
 * 模組:Authority_control:241: in function "?"
 * 模組:Authority_control:411: in function "chunk"
 * mw.lua:511: ?
 * [C]: ?
 * Can it be possibly caused by inaccessible data linked at 'NLC_ID' attribute at Wikidata page? (URL: http://aleweb.ncl.edu.tw/F/?func=accref&acc_sequence=855970) --CiaPan (talk) 10:45, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

Same links in wiki-format: zh-yue:余英時 and en:Yu_Ying-shih. --CiaPan (talk) 07:37, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

Why can't create Topic Miss Grand International
Dear Wikipedia Org, I can't event create Miss Grand International on Wikipedia Miss Grand International have 2.5 Million Likes and Followers on Facebook 164,000 Followers on Instagram and 16,000 subscriber on youtube but cannot create on your page. I can guarantee you that Miss Grand International is its recognition of actual and legal beauty pageant system runs by the organization of Miss Grand International based in Thailand. Thank you very much.

I have attached the link for reference in detail below. www.facebook.com/missgrandinternational www.instagram.com/missgrandinternational https://www.youtube.com/user/missgrandinter — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amazingth (talk • contribs) 09:46, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
 * It has been repeatedly been found non-notable. You know that, since you took the trouble to delete the content of the nomination page. Kleuske (talk) 09:52, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
 * YouTube, Facebook and instagram are not independent verifiable sources. If you have a conflict of interest when editing this article, you must declare it. If you work directly or indirectly for the organisation, or otherwise are acting on its behalf, you are  required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:Amazingth. The template Paid can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form:    . If you are being compensated, please provide the required disclosure. Concealing a COI can lead to a block. Please do not edit further until you respond to this message. Some of your edits, such as those to the AfD nomination page, also look like WP:Disruptive editing, which can also lead to sanctions Jimfbleak -  talk to me?  05:49, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

== Is transclusion as wrapped in into the /doc page?

So, if page Template:Foobar consists of is, /doc page is  , and page Template:Foobar/example is  , I want to be able to add a section "Example" to /doc page, which would transclude the code of /example, and the wikimarkup result in the /doc page is. Question was originally posted here: Wikipedia talk:Transclusion. Thanks. —&#8288;andrybak (talk) 10:46, 21 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Possibly there's no need for additional  page? See e.g. like examples for Infobox person are presented at Template:Infobox person/doc. --CiaPan (talk) 13:59, 21 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Thanks, CiaPan, I already know how Documentation works. I'm trying to do a bit more trickier templates for creation of other templates and want to avoid duplication, like it is done in Template:Infobox person/doc. User Redrose64 gave me the exact answer over at Wikipedia talk:Transclusion. Thanks again. —&#8288;andrybak (talk) 14:09, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

Jenny Thomann-Koller
--Htewarso (talk) 17:31, 21 August 2018 (UTC)Htewarso wants to place an article "Jenny Koller/Jenny Thomann-Koller" in English on Wikipedia. The article exists already in German.

You will find guidance at Translation. That page is a bit messy and needs work, so if you get confused please come back here. Please note carefully: the subject must meet the English-language Wikipedia criteria for notability: see WP:NOTABLE. Existence of an article on the German Wikipedia is not of itself evidence of notability.-Arch dude (talk) 18:41, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

Re: New Page Submission
How long does it take for a new page to be approved once it is submitted? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ipni2018 (talk • contribs) 20:22, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
 * According to WP:AFC there are over 3100 submissions awaiting review; as reviews are conducted by volunteers, it could take many weeks. 331dot (talk) 20:32, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for your time and replying back so fast. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ipni2018 (talk • contribs) 20:38, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

George Lascelles, 7th Earl of Harewood
This page  has  been  tampered  with -   not  by  myself! Please fix  if  able -   Thanks 180.150.21.186 (talk) 23:41, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
 * I fixed it. A good faith editor simply deleted a curled bracket breaking the infobox (which I erroneously called a ref box in my edit summary by accident, sorry). HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 23:55, 21 August 2018 (UTC)