Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2018 December 18

= December 18 =

Family of Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge
Please don't  get  angry -  I  have   added  a  citation  which  is  from  a  college  magazine  so the  publisher  is  hard  to  ascertain. Please fix    Ref  number  99 on this  page. Thanks Srbernadette (talk) 03:16, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
 * The publisher of a college or school magazine can be assumed to be the college or school, in this case Roedean School.  General Ization Talk  03:27, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

Serge Lazareff Page
Good morning, I created a page talking about the person Serge Lazareff. I'm working for NATO and we have a directive to institutionalize a "Serge Lazareff Prize", which is for the persons who did something good for legal services. This prize was authorized by a directive from our Chief of Staff (4 stars general). Now I received the information than I cannot talk about persons, I cannot promote persons. This person already died, and is our Patron, for our Legal Office at NATO. I would like to publish a page with Serge Lazareff photo and writing about his life, also explain what the prize means. Please I will wait for help in this matter. Have a nice day

Kind regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by OLA NATO (talk • contribs) 08:36, 18 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia does not publish promotional material. You have a WP:Conflict of interest and probably WP:Paid status, so you are not the best person to create such articles.  If you can find independent WP:Reliable sources in which the subject is written about at length, then an article which summarises these sources would be permitted.  Wikipedia has no interest in any directives from NATO or from generals, however many stars.  It just reports what has already been published elsewhere.  You may request articles at WP:Requested articles, but any such article will not be under your control.   Dbfirs  09:10, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

How to you comment on the revision section of a page if you are undoing an edit?
Hi there, I undid an edit by pressing undo but don't know how to comment on the revision I made. I need to add an explanation to the revision page.Epicforest (talk) 10:20, 18 December 2018 (UTC)


 * The place to explain your edit is in the edit summary. If a longer explanation is needed, use the article's talk page. --David Biddulph (talk) 11:14, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

Activating structured discussions on my talk page
On Wikidata I can enable "Structured Discussions on user talk", how do I do that here on enwiki?--Micru (talk) 10:58, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Flow says: "Flow was uninstalled from English Wikipedia in November 2016, by request from the community. You might encounter it on other Wikimedia wikis however. There are currently no plans for it to return to English Wikipedia." PrimeHunter (talk) 22:31, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

Use of "via" and "free access" symbol in Newspapers.com citations
I was under the impression that WP encourages editors to include the source note "via=Newspapers.com" and the "free access" logo when adding "Clippings" to citations, as per the example given on Newspapers.com. However, these items were deleted by another editor when I added clippings to the biography of John Le Mesurier, which happens to be a Featured Article. So, is including this information recommended or not?--Muzilon (talk) 10:59, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Your first course of action for cases like this should be to take up the issue with the other editor at either the article's talk page or the editor's talk page. I cannot see where you have done this.
 * via is used to provide the name of the source deliverer when that name is different from the publisher.  is intended to identify a source that is free-to-read.  In cs1|2 templates like, title linked to a source by url is presumed to be free-to-read – this is the norm and cs1|2 does not highlight the norm.  This is why free is not a valid parameter/value pair.
 * Prior to, Newspapers.com had this:
 * Make sure to include the Open access template in citations of clippings: we want our readers to know that they can access these articles.
 * That 'requirement' (if it was a requirement) was removed and has not been disputed or restored (, clearly inappropriate, was replaced with at a later edit).
 * For what it is worth, it is my opinion that for the two cs1|2 templates at John Le Mesurier, Newspapers.com is appropriate; is not.
 * —Trappist the monk (talk) 11:44, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
 * For what it is worth, it is my opinion that for the two cs1|2 templates at John Le Mesurier, Newspapers.com is appropriate; is not.
 * —Trappist the monk (talk) 11:44, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
 * —Trappist the monk (talk) 11:44, 18 December 2018 (UTC)


 * This was (or so I thought) really a general question about the standard procedure (if any) for citing Newspapers.com rather than a problem specifically relating to the article I gave as an example. That is why I asked here rather than on the John Le Mesurier talk page (much less bothering the other editor at this point). Thanks for the reply in any case. --Muzilon (talk) 12:19, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

template fix request
please fix with link to Ligurian (Romance language). thanks!!! --2001:B07:6442:8903:8D3C:C5DA:57A1:9F2F (talk) 14:53, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Well, that was an adventure. iso2language invokes ISO 639 name, which is protected, so you must first find it, then view source to get a "submit edit request" button. This lets you add your request to that template's talk page in a structured way. I have done this. It's not clear how a mere mortal is supposed to figure this out. -Arch dude (talk) 16:13, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
 * This is also discussed at Village pump (technical). Please only ask a question in one place. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:58, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

Cannot Edit My Own Wikipedia Page
Hi there! My name is Zac Brewer and I've tried to correct info on my page, but keep getting warnings that my changes have been reverted due to being vandalism...? How do I correct my own info so the public knows the truth about me? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.206.223.230 (talk) 15:56, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi, Zac. Please do not edit that article directly: see WP:AUTOBIOGRAPHY. (Exception: you, or anyone, may remove incorrect, unsourced information). If there are errors, please make suggexted changes, with sources, on the article's talk page, and add the magic incantation edit request (with the curly brackets) to your suggestion. An editor without your unavoidable conflict of interest will come along and fix the article for you. On behalf of our readership, we have no interest in what a subject has to say about himself, only in what reliable sources say about him. Please think about this in terms of what rules you would want us to apply to some subject you do not know about and for which you would like to get reliable, unbiased information. But please do make those suggestions if you think they improve the article. Thanks! -Arch dude (talk) 16:33, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

Irish speaker required
I've been working on a page for the Irish folk song "Carraig Aonair" known in English as "The Lone Rock". I need help from an Irish speaker to correctly syllablise the original Irish words to the music. Please go to User:Martin of Sheffield/sandbox if you can help. If you are not used to Lilypond syntax don't worry, we can work on things together. Thanks, Martin of Sheffield (talk) 16:44, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
 * List of users who speak Irish, the -# indicates the proficiency they claim. Find one that is active and sounds good to you, and ask them. WelpThatWorked (talk) 20:06, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Excellent idea. Thanks, Martin of Sheffield (talk) 21:00, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

Update Achronix Logo
Hello,

I need to update Achronix's logo as they have a new one: https://www.embedded-vision.com/sites/default/files/logos/ACHRONIX_full_logo_tagline_black_and_green_2018.jpg.

This is their Wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Achronix. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.108.82.46 (talk) 17:41, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Logo updated. Have fun! WelpThatWorked (talk) 19:55, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

Link in Riceland Foods
A previous editor attempted to place the piped link bio-degradable in the intro of Riceland Foods, but, for whatever reason, the link was unsuccessful. I tried to correct the issue by re-inserting the link, but I was unsuccessful. An attempt to use the link in the sandbox was successful, however. Why is it not working in the article then? - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 20:27, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
 * There was a spurious  tag in the wikitext, which caused the normal wiki markup not to be recognised Noyster</b>  (talk),  20:42, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

How can Wikipedia justify deleting the profile of Scottish GP Dr Malcolm Kendrick?
Dr Kendrick is a hugely respected and highly scrupulous scientist who deals only in scientific facts.

His deletion is a travesty.

His profile should be restored and an apology made. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BobCrabtree (talk • contribs) 20:28, 18 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Articles require independent sources with in depth coverage of the subject. If those sources are supplied there will be no trouble keeping the article. Stuartyeates (talk) 20:30, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
 * This is in regards to Malcolm Kendrick which was deleted after a lengthy deletion dicussion at Articles for deletion/Malcolm Kendrick. It looks like the subject of the article directed his supporters to try to influence the outcome; however, deletion discussions are not a vote and it looks very suspicious when a flood of new accounts comes to comment on a discussion. shoy (reactions) 20:41, 18 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Read Notability (people) and Your first article carefully and start working. If there's sources that show he is notable in the WP-sense, you can succeed. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 21:11, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
 * According to the comments on Kendrick's blog, apparently the article was deleted because of "vegans" and the "agents of Big Pharma" . Jimmy Wales is also apparently involved.  Back in reality, of course, the truth is far more prosaic - not enough third-party coverage to pass the general notability guidelines. Black Kite (talk) 22:53, 18 December 2018 (UTC)


 * To be fair, Jimmy Wales has stepped in on this on twitter and he is debating these conspiracy theorists . Predictively they ended up just personally attacking him. There is no conspiracy to remove low-carb authors from Wikipedia. Malcolm Kendrick was deleted from Wikipedia because of lack of reliable sources. I submitted his article for deletion for this reason, nothing else. MatthewManchester1994 (talk) 18:03, 19 December 2018 (UTC)


 * His article was deleted because no reliable sources mention him. It is simple as that. Wikipedia articles cannot exist without reliable sources. MatthewManchester1994 (talk) 23:16, 18 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Well, there are reliable sources that mention him. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:22, 19 December 2018 (UTC)


 * "If a topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, it is presumed to be suitable for a stand-alone article or list. "Significant coverage" addresses the topic directly and in detail, so that no original research is needed to extract the content. Significant coverage is more than a trivial mention, but it does not need to be the main topic of the source material." --WP:SIGCOV.
 * --Guy Macon (talk) 10:47, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
 * The other thing to remember on this subject, aside from the fact that he fails GNG, is that he's wrong! -Roxy, the dog . wooF 10:53, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
 * That's not necessarily bad for notability: Veracity of statements by Donald Trump. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 11:12, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Reading this gives me the idea that Kendrick was looking for a bigger platform to spread his ideas. But Wikipedia is not for advertising or promotion. The Banner  <i style="color:maroon">talk</i> 23:50, 18 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Ok that is very disturbing, I had not seen that. Unfortunately, Malcolm Kendrick and his followers have doxxed me and have posted my real name, and I am receiving a lot of off-wiki harassment about this and it could potentially ruin my career in biology. I did change my username once the other day, but it is not of help now. I have decided to close my account tomorrow. There is too much false information and conspiracy theories being spread about me on social media by Kendrick and the low-carb community. I am not sure why they are making this personal. I submitted his Wikipedia article for deletion per policy (lack of reliable sources), I have nothing against the man personally and now these people want to try and ruin my life by posting personal details about me. MatthewManchester1994 (talk) 18:15, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
 * If they go that low, you better move this to AN/I or the legal department of the Foundation. The Banner  <i style="color:maroon">talk</i> 19:11, 19 December 2018 (UTC)