Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2018 February 26

= February 26 =

Nail Salon - UK Page
While searching wikipedia I came across the page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nail_salon, but this page seems only to pertain to US Nail Salons.

Can I create a similar page for the UK - or would I be best advised to "UPDATE" the current page to include the UK information on this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nail_salon

Thank you in antisipation of your answer.

EditorInWiki (talk) 05:41, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Hello, . Although that article is not limited just to the United States, I agree that it is "US-centric" for the most part, and poorly referenced. The solution is to edit the article, adding well-referenced content that will give it a worldwide perspective. Cullen328  Let's discuss it  07:13, 26 February 2018 (UTC)


 * In general, I'd always ask this question, "Which format will give our readers the best article?" Are the topics of "nail salon" so different between countries that the articles are best split, so as not to be confusing?  Or is a worldwide view of this better? We can always have sections within the article for each country, or we can have sections within the article on topics (such as §Relevant policies and regulations and then country-specific sub sections within that.  The ability to contrast international differences is often a good reason to have one shared article: maybe Lilliput has many nail bars, but in Blefuscu they're always part of a larger hairdresser? We have a largely shared global culture today, but has nail care always been so prominent in particular countries?
 * The current size of the article alone isn't a good reason to split or merge, but it's always possible to change this in the future. So an article might start as a small single article, but if it does grow too big in the future it could split. Andy Dingley (talk) 10:48, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

Exact meaning of "Dead link"
Normally I understand "dead link" to mean that the link simply doesn't work (at the http level, a "page not found" code or similar). But very often links do go to a page, but the relevant content has been replaced by some sort of placeholder content. (For example, at Hari-Kuyō, reference 3, Audsomee says nothing about the topic.) Is it standard to describe this as a "dead link"? Template:Dead link is frustratingly vague, with no definition at all, though it includes the term "Dead link" wl'ed to Template:Link rot, which includes the phrase "irrelevant or broken (also called a dead link)", in turn syntactically ambiguous as to whether an "irrelevant" link is also called a "dead link". I suggest the Dead link page should make this clear. I would edit it myself if I knew the answer. Imaginatorium (talk) 06:01, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
 * See WP:LINKROT. A dead link is a link that either does not work or a link that now points to something irrelevant.  RudolfRed (talk) 16:52, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

Paralympic athlete
Hi,

I've just found out that one of my teachers passed away. He was a high level table tennis (ping pong) player from Belgium and he competed and won medals in at least 2 Olympic Games. His name was Alain Ledoux from Belgium. There is not much about him online, even in French. I was thinking I could get more info about him and create an article but I want to make sure my article won't be deleted. So my question is: is a medal-winning Paralympic athlete eligible for a Wikipedia article? 2001:EE0:4041:49DC:65C2:DDC2:3E1:DD8A (talk) 06:56, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

Edit: His son Marc Ledoux has an article in English but not in French. 2001:EE0:4041:49DC:65C2:DDC2:3E1:DD8A (talk) 07:06, 26 February 2018 (UTC)


 * OK, you're going to have to prove notability. Generally I think awards like a paralympic medal don't make an article - simply because, if there isn't any coverage of the person in reliable sources, we're not going to have even a stub of an article - it would literally be "Hi, this person won a medal, bye". For example, take a look at List of Paralympic medalists in archery - the number of redlinks. However, your looking online isn't complete, since there might be significant coverage in a book.
 * WP:ATHLETE should be a go to guide. This is only a guideline, but it is essentially law about what constitutes notability.
 * WP:NOLYMPICS - the person is assumed to be notable by virtue of winning a medal.
 * WP:RX is a very useful resource for getting passages from books and other offline resources. Definitely worth a bit of a look (you do need to find the you want to request, though).

Hope this helps. &#x2230; Bellezzasolo &#x2721;  Discuss  08:36, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Corrected for when I saw WP:NOLYMPICS &#x2230; Bellezzasolo &#x2721;   Discuss  08:39, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

how to change the title of my organizations page on Wikipedia
Dear Messrs,

i am trying to correct the name title of my organization on wikipedia, as well as the logo, i cant seem to be able to do that. Article link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karachi_School_for_Business_and_Leadership

correct title : Karachi school of business and leadership, title changed in December 2015. old title is still reflecting on wikipedia  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Uaahmed2 (talk • contribs) 09:56, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Moved. It reads with a whiff of WP:PUFF to me though. - X201 (talk) 10:04, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

How to hide some image metadata, specifically on wikimedia and Wikipedia
On Wikipedia I don’t want people to see the device I used to take photos for upload to wikimedia. Is there a privacy option to hide the device type and manufacturer name. I’m happy to share location data and date and time but prefer to not have people find out I’m using a smartphone — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adrian816 (talk • contribs) 12:19, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
 * You probably want to edit the Exif data in the file before you upload it. Dorsetonian (talk) 17:01, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
 * If you're not comfortable editing metadata, an alternative quick-but-functional way to strip metadata is to open the image, ctrl-a and ctrl-c to copy it to the clipboard, select "new file" in any image editing program (the bundled freebies like MS Paint and Apple Preview will work fine), ctrl-v to paste the image into the new file, and save the new page with the same name as the old file to overwrite it. (I wouldn't get too hung up on "not have people find out I’m using a smartphone". For all but extreme zoom and the most specialist applications, the quality of phone cameras nowadays is just as good as those of dedicated cameras.) &#8209; Iridescent 17:14, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

Hayden Groves
on My Draft:Hayden Groves https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Hayden_Groves had this feedback

improperly submitted! Please replace  with

can someone pls check that I have updated appropriately

thank you CobraTrump01 (talk) 13:24, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Appears to be correct. Eagleash (talk) 13:53, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
 * I have done some minor tidying: There's an anomaly or two in the refs. Ref 3: (Janie Stamford) there's a parameter within the ref formatting  and a date, in that case 2011. However, the source is dated 2013 and the there is no   parameter within the reference. Other refs seem to have the same issue. It's a minor point as it doesn't seem to have flagged up a ref error, but should probably be fixed, if only for the sake of best practice and future editing. Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 14:12, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

Can anyone check a page whether it’s okay for request?
This page was declined Draft:RiceGum. So I decided to edit where it was necessary. It was the references that had some social media instead of websites so I changed it. I want to know whether it will be accepted this time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rahid7 (talk • contribs) 15:29, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
 * It still lacks good sources - mainstream newspapers, for instance. Ruslik_ Zero 18:25, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

How To Edit Locked Pages + Valid Edits Being Removed
Hello,

I am a big music fan and have tried in the past to edit and update both the List of 2017 Albums and List of 2018 Albums pages. I have provided updates that the current editor of the page missed out on.

Both pages were previously unlocked and now they are locked, I am guessing because of this editor.

These were all valid updates, valid new albums added with valid references cited. All of my changes fit the criteria set by Wikipedia and for those two pages.

Now they have the same lock set for edits as articles about the Middle East conflict, which is absurd.

Can anyone assist me with this? Can I get access to edit the pages or can I contact the editor with a list of updates that they can add if they don't trust me? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kevx301 (talk • contribs) 16:06, 26 February 2018 (UTC)


 * The place to propose changes to a locked page is on the talk page of the article concerned, supporting your proposal with references to published independent reliable sources. --David Biddulph (talk) 16:11, 26 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Please also note that there are no assigned editors: you are just as much the "current editor" as anyone else, so thanks for your efforts. When a page is locked, this does not give that page's "current editor" any extra rights, since there is no such editor See Protection policy for details. -Arch dude (talk) 00:39, 27 February 2018 (UTC)

Are IP editors notified of comments on their talk pages?
If I leave a message on the talk page of someone who edits from an IP address, do they get notification at the top of their page? I want to welcome an IP user who is making good-faith edits, but I don't know if they will ever look at their talk page if they're not guided there. Leschnei (talk) 18:43, 26 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Help:Talk pages says so. --David Biddulph (talk) 19:00, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Excellent, thank you. Leschnei (talk) 19:02, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Personally, my IP gets warned all the time (and its been blocked three times) for vandalism and I never get a notification on top of my page when I have a new one (when logged out), so I rarely notice my warnings. L293D (☎ • ✎) 20:26, 26 February 2018 (UTC)


 * FWIW, I have always (for some 15 years) edited as an IP user, and can confirm that a message left on an IP's user page will trigger a notification to them the next time they edit from that IP.
 * However, many of us are provided with dynamic IPs by our ISPs (as I now am after my static-IP provider was taken over by a dynamic one, (now called Sky Broadband), since when I now always sign off with my once-fixed home IP as you'll see below). If the ISP changes a particular user's IP between visits, then that IP user will not see such notifications (though someone else, newly assigned that same IP, will). {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.220.212.253 (talk) 23:45, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Oh well. I left a friendly message; maybe somebody will see it. Leschnei (talk) 00:10, 27 February 2018 (UTC)

With the use of dynamic IP address allocation using the DHCP address configuration protocol any internet router will get an IP address allocated from a fixed pool of IP addresses given to your ISP. Therefore the IP address that Wikipedia records may get allocated to another broadband service customer in the event their hardwired router is rebooted. That’s the point at which an IP address as seen by Wikipedia can change. You’re better off creating an account for a consistent edit history rather than relying on luck to not have to reboot your internet router. Adrian816 (talk) 23:05, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

Spamming of History Tab
So on the Monster Jam World Finals page, a new Wikipedia user has recently been making a lot of changes to it. Many of the edits he has saved is either simple one word deletions or one word additions. While the user has been adding some information, the user has also taken a lot of information away, such as what special body it is of a truck (Ex: Avenger). Through their simple edits, the user has created many different versions in the 'View History' tab of the page, resulting in a massive spam of edits (On February 22, he even got in +20 revisions of the page). Is there anything that can be done about this? I've tried looking through the Wikipedia spamming rules, but seen nothing on spamming revisions on the history tab. Thanks. Magitroopa (talk) 20:38, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
 * In general, making a larger number of small edits can be preferred to one large edit, but maybe WP:DISRUPT applies. If the edits are not constructive, you can revert them and then start a discussion on the talk page.  RudolfRed (talk) 20:44, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

How to add a translation of an article?
Hello. I created an article in French and I would like to add the English version. I started creating it by using the Beta tool but I see an alert saying "This utility is currently restricted to extended confirmed editors on the English Wikipedia". What is the appropriate procedure to add a translation? Thanks.

I uploaded the texts but don't see how to add footnotes (Bibliography). — Preceding unsigned comment added by AtomAntPop (talk • contribs) 21:53, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

This is the Fr version: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ciel_variable — Preceding unsigned comment added by AtomAntPop (talk • contribs) 21:51, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Basically, we were getting a lot of extremely poor quality translations more or less dumped on us, and the community decided to limit the use of the content translation tool to users who were already active here, in order to help insure they were actually proficient enough in English to spot obvious translation errors. The only real workaround (by design) is to manually translate the article into coherent English and then submit it for publishing. If you draft the article here it should push you over the bar to being automatically confirmed so you can then move it into article space yourself. I’ve dropped a standard welcome message on your talk page which also has many important links to information for users new to en.Wikipedia. WP:CITE has information on adding citations/references to articles. Beeblebrox (talk) 01:10, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
 * You will find advice at WP:Translation. --David Biddulph (talk) 04:35, 27 February 2018 (UTC)

Thank you Beeblebrox for your answer and the message on my talk page, they are very useful! When you say "If you draft the article here it should push you over the bar...", do you mean I should copy/paste the content here in this thread? (I'm still learning the best practices, your patience is appreciated) AtomAntPop (talk) 15:20, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Sorry for being unclear, not here on this page, but looks like you figured that out for yourself. Beeblebrox (talk) 20:06, 27 February 2018 (UTC)