Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2018 July 10

= July 10 =

Request help with wikilink to a non-English article
I would like to link the article Manterruption, which is in German, to the article Interruption (speech). However, an editor reverted my edit and said that the article must be in German to be wikilinked to Manterruption that is in German. Can someone suggest a workaround? Thanks!AnaSoc (talk) 01:26, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
 * You refer to [//de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Manterruption&diff=prev&oldid=175629988] which is not allowed by the German Wikipedia. Wikipedia languages make their own policies. The English Wikipedia has Help:Interlanguage links and Interlanguage link which allows linking to other languages although the tempalte is used in less than 1% of our articles. The German Wikipedia has deleted a similar template. A Google translation of the German de:Hilfe:Internationalisierung says: "For the article namespace applies: Internal links in the body of a Wikipedia article may refer only to articles in the same Wikipedia. For example, if you want to reference a person's article in a German-language article that has an article only in English Wikipedia, then you must not link directly to the English-language article." PrimeHunter (talk) 01:47, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks.AnaSoc (talk) 22:43, 13 July 2018 (UTC)

Book Creator Book Contents Disappeared
The contents of the book creator collection of articles I had assembled completely vanished. Is there any way to recover these? — Preceding unsigned comment added by OxymoronKing (talk • contribs) 03:00, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi, Is this you are looking for?  CASSIOPEIA(talk) 03:36, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes, that seems to be some of it, albeit a much shorted list. Thank you for your help OxymoronKing
 * Hi, maybe you didnt save your last edit for such some are not there.  CASSIOPEIA(talk) 09:02, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

Wiki links
Hello

I have been adding content to some pages, often in the Awards and Decorations sections, sometimes which did not even exist for the particular subject until I created it. I have run into a lot of trouble lately by adding links to current Wiki pages, thinking that was allowable, but have been having some of the added content deleted as one or two editors consider a particular award "trivial". I am very confused as to why an award or decoration that has it's own standalone wiki page is now not allowed to be mentioned or a link to it provided because apparently it is a "trivial" award. This happened to me again yesterday when more of my added content was deleted as they were all "trivial" awards. The ones I added links to yesterday were different to the ones that were deleted prior, but I don't know what is considered trivial or not? I've asked for a specific list of wiki pages that I am not allowed to add links to, so I don't get into trouble again, yet this has not been provided to me. All I get is more deletions and aggressive messages. How am I to know what is permissible and what is not if there is no firm list of things that some editors consider trivial? More importantly, why is a wiki page not allowed to be linked in another article? If these endless but unspecified awards and decorations are trivial and not permissible, what is the point of having a wiki page for them? What is wrong with guiding someone to an existing wiki page if they are interested in that specific award or decoration that an individual possessed? I honestly don't know what to do and am very confused as to why some wiki articles are considered relevant but other wiki pages are considered trivial and not allowed to be linked to. I'm also confused as to why I keep getting, to be quite frank, bullied by one or two editors over my linking to these so-called trivial wiki pages. I am just asking for unambiguous guidelines as to what wiki pages are permissible to have a link provided to them and which ones aren't.

Thanks in advance for any help here Troy von Tempest (talk) 04:02, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
 * This is what we call a content dispute. You are two steps into the bold-revert-discuss cycle: see WP:BRD. Your next step is to discuss this via a edit on the article's talk page in an attempt to reach consensus. Please assume that the other editors, like you, are attempting to improve the encyclopedia (WP:AGF) and keep the discussion as civil and positive as you can, especially if others editors fail to do so. Only if this fails should you proceed to further steps in the dispute resolution process. See WP:DISPUTE. The help desk is not part of that process. We are here to point you to the process, not participate in it. Good luck, and don't get discouraged. -Arch dude (talk) 04:50, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

The first Superman
The article States George Reeves In 1950 However Kirk Alyn Was the first Superman In 1948. And as far as curses Are concerned Died from Life causing Incidences & In a couple of cases Could have been prevented.Other illnesses The AMA Back then Did not know As much as They know now Which would help to prevent Those killer Illnesses And prevent Unnecessary Early deaths. As far as Other instances of death Where are man-made And not an act of God. Please make that Notation correction. Thx — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.100.245.3 (talk) 05:11, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Welcome to Wikipedia, the encyclopedia anyone can edit. This means you: just edit the articles to add or correct information as needed, However, we require you to cite reliable sources: see WP:RS. If you do not wish to edit an article yourself, please place the information on the article's talk page (click on the little "talk" tab at the top of the article page), just as you did here on the help desk, but be sure to add a reliable source. -Arch dude (talk) 05:59, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Our biography Kirk Alyn makes it clear that he was the first film serial actor to portray Superman, although Bud Collyer played Superman on the radio previously. I remember Collyer later as a TV game show host when I was a child. Cullen328  Let's discuss it  06:50, 10 July 2018 (UTC)=

How to create a disambiguation page?
I want to create a new article about Disney song "when we're together" but another song has the same name. How can I create a disambiguation page to indicate different songs. Thank you !!!! Mitochondrions (talk) 10:06, 10 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Hello, . You'll find full information (including how to decide whether a DAB is the right answer) at WP:DAB. --ColinFine (talk) 10:23, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

"Internal error" : unable to edit a page
I'm trying to update 2018–19_Valencia_CF_season but I get this message...

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Jump to navigation Jump to search [W0ScHwpAIDAAAHkq7IwAAACS] 2018-07-10 11:44:32: Fatal exception of type "Exception"

What is this? That's the first time I've seen it. I saved the changes in my sandbox but don't understand what the issue is? Valenciano (talk) 11:47, 10 July 2018 (UTC)


 * It works for me – succeeded to modify the page and to revert. --CiaPan (talk) 12:09, 10 July 2018 (UTC)


 * I also succeeded to modify the page with the version from your sandbox. Please review the changes. --CiaPan (talk) 12:12, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Forgot to ping. Here it is: . --CiaPan (talk) 12:13, 10 July 2018 (UTC)


 * It works for me – succeeded of making a dummy edit.  CASSIOPEIA(talk) 12:16, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

Help
i'm working on my first article Mic Diggy unfortunately they proposed it for deletion unless i provide a reliable reference relating to the article. is this not reliable ? https://www.daily-mail.co.zm/mic-diggy-signs-cd-run/ thank you Vicmullar (talk) 14:04, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
 * The newspaper is not regarded as reliable; see WP:DAILYMAIL for more information. See WP:RS for help in identifying reliable sources. Eagleash (talk) 14:16, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
 * i think there's a mistake somewhere, going through the thread you mentioned, i believe there are stating the Daily Mail UK. Not the one from Zambia (Africa). I stand to be corrected if anything and please see the link i sent. Vicmullar (talk) 14:27, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Apologies I misread the link! I wonder if anyone has any knowledge of the paper in question though? The editor that placed the 'prod' used the rational "The references provided do not talk about the subject at hand". I'm not able to look through them at this point in time but I note that at the time of 'prodding' there were 30 or so refs, a number of which menetion the subject in the URL. (Though I'm certain not all of them would be thought of as wholly reliable). I wonder if the prod was correctly placed in this instance? You are entitled to remove the prod. yourself but as I understand it, as it is a BLP prod. it does not preclude an alternative type of prod replacing it. Normally a prod once removed cannot be replaced. I'm also pinging so they can join the discussion. Cheers. Eagleash (talk) 15:00, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Per Zambia Daily Mail it doesn't scream "unreliable" in this context. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:58, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
 * As far as I know Zambia Daily Mail is considered as a reliable source of information it being the national newspaper. But the article of the artists in question only has one article that talks about cd sells I dont think that then makes him notable. Just a thought. Chabota Kanguya (talk) 16:34, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
 * I have now removed the prod. (following our various discussions). If you still consider notability to be a problem then perhaps AfD would be the way to propose deletion. Eagleash (talk) 18:12, 10 July 2018 (UTC)