Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2018 June 1

= June 1 =

Copyright question
has been cutting and pasting copyrighted work from UNESCO into Wikipedia articles.

Examples:
 * ; see google search for "allowing users free connectivity to access specific content or applications for free"
 * ; see google search for "From 2012 through 2016 inclusive, UNESCO’s Director-General condemned"
 * ; see google search for "between 2012 and 2016, print newspaper circulation continued to fall in almost all regions"
 * ; see google search for "whether they are working in an insecure context, or in a"

The UNESCO material is under a compatible CC license. Is this sort of cutting and pasting allowed? --Guy Macon (talk) 02:17, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes, but it must be attributed, as it has been in these cases. please see: Adding open license text to Wikipedia, which is linked to in the attributions in these articles. -Arch dude (talk) 02:30, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Whether or not the resulting article meets our other guidlines is a separate issue, but if the result at a minimum a good starting point, then we can continue to improve it using our normal procedures. (I have not looked at these articles, so I don't actually know if I consider them to be good in this light.) -Arch dude (talk) 02:39, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi, yes, since UNESCO is not a primary source. John Cummings (talk) 09:56, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

Adding a published account
I wish to add a published account (a book) to support a topic. How is that accomplished? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bluedog06 (talk • contribs) 03:25, 1 June 2018 (UTC)


 * The method of adding a reference is described at Help:Referencing for beginners. --David Biddulph (talk) 03:46, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

Article talk page - WikiProject tagging
Hi, Kim Chang-son article talk page was tagged as Talk:Kim Chang-son (athlete) - see here. I change the WikiProject tags but the article talk page name remains unchanged. I found out that because I change the tags, it effect the Kim Chang-son (athlete) article talk page - in another word both  Kim Chang-son(politician)  and Kim Chang-son (athlete) share the same article talk page wikiproject tags. Please advise how to proceed as if I moved the politician article talk page name, I am not sure it will effect the athlete article talk page. Thanks in advance.  CASSIOPEIA(talk) 05:59, 1 June 2018 (UTC)


 * You put edits on Talk:Kim Chang-son (athlete) which should have been on Talk:Kim Chang-son. You perhaps hadn't noticed the redirect.  Hopefully I've corrected things now. --David Biddulph (talk) 09:01, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks David for the assistance, didnt aware of the redirect. Cheers.  CASSIOPEIA(talk) 09:18, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

Another set of eyes on Kursk State Medical University please?
A former disgruntled student of this medical school has stripped the article to nearly a stub (which we can look at later) and is now insisting on including criticisms that pertain to Russian schools in general (i.e. don't mention this one specifically) One of the refs supposedly did mention this school, now it is down, and I am being accused of paying the magazine off, and being offered money by the user to have it re-instated by this user!... along with WP:SYNTH to somehow discredit the university. [].... Not engaging on talk page btw. Help please. If you respond here, please ping. TantraYum (talk) 06:03, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
 * The matter is now at ANI where it was perhaps doomed to end. Please don't be drawn into edit warring; always take the matter to talk pages then if necessary to other dispute resolution venues. Independent sources are what the article needs, and please note that non-English sources are acceptable if adequate English-language sources cannot be found Noyster (talk),  18:07, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I have taken it to the talk page... and have stepped back from trying to edit it with just him and me. I was hoping for some experienced editors to drop by....and once this user began removing comments from the talk page, I did take this up at ani. TantraYum (talk) 02:14, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

Deleting common.css
I stopped using my common.css page some time ago but it is now just an empty, existent page in my userspace. How does one go about deleting the common.css page? I don't think speedy deletion tags like db-u1 work here. Thanks.  RAVEN PVFF  &#124; talk ~ 09:38, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
 * User:Ravenpuff/common.css has been deleted. db-u1 does work by adding the page to Category:Candidates for speedy deletion by user. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:35, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

How does one add a person to wiki?
I am interested in adding an artist to wiki. How do I begin? Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by KevinMcNamara (talk • contribs) 14:56, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Please check WP:Notability to start with. Wakari07 (talk) 17:27, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi Kevin and welcome. To add to the above, we prefer to talk about "creating an article about ..." as Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not any sort of listing service. How you begin is by assembling your "reliable, independent, published sources with significant coverage of the topic" and check that your artist will likely qualify as "notable" going by our notability guidance for artists. Then go through Your first article, make a draft and submit it for review as explained there. Any further queries as you go along will be welcome here or at the Teahouse Noyster (talk),  17:43, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

I am lost.
Today, Wikipedia appears on my computer screen with a new format. I have no idea how to edit on it. There is a big bar across the top for searching, but I can't see my log-in page, the history tab, or an edit tab. I wanted to edit the article about the USS Nimitz's alleged encounter with a UFO because the article said, " A 2015 interview with Fravor in FighterSweep.com about the alleged encounter was featured on the 2005 PBS documentary Carrier.[2]"  And this reads like time travel to me. But I had no idea how to get to the talk page or access editing. Kdammers (talk) 15:02, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
 * It's a new responsive design for the MonoBook skin. The text tabs are replaced by icons in some circumstances and there may be a "more" link. It's discussed at Village pump (technical). You can choose another skin at Special:Preferences. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:08, 1 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank you. Why, though, did it appear on my laptop (I don't have a cellphone, so it couldn't have migrated from another of my devices)?Kdammers (talk) 09:58, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
 * It has been reverted for now. I also saw it on my desktop if I zoomed or narrowed the window. I think the idea was that it should happen if the window has limited room for the page content, whether it's due to the screen size, window size or zooming. It was apparently meant to mainly happen for small devices but many annoyed desktop users reported it. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:31, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

Is breitbart considered a reliable source?
Title. Alex of Canada (talk) 17:05, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Questions of this nature would be better directed to WP:RSN, for future reference. Searching the archives there, the consensus appears to be "no, it is not", though I'm not sure that's been formalized. See also WP:QS. DonIago (talk) 17:17, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Maybe it would be reliable for fringe propaganda, as seen by today's [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Current_events/2018_June_1&diff=prev&oldid=843962103 add] in the Current events portal. Wakari07 (talk) 17:24, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
 * I mean, I’m not all that familiar with the rules and regulations here at en:wp, but the obvious answer should be “hell no”. Rgds ✦  hugarheimur 18:08, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
 * I think the opinion is divided. It may be reliable depending on the content. Use your best judgment. Thinker78 (talk) 19:48, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

Images I upload show a gray bar across the bottom
Hello! Some images I add to the page I'm creating are showing up with a gray bar across the bottom. I used Wikimedia commons to upload the original images. I added an example image to the right (One Energy's headquarters). Can anyone show me how to properly display the whole image? Thank you! Eileen at OE (talk) 18:06, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Another user had the same problem at Teahouse/Questions/Archive 774. Your uploads at commons:Special:ListFiles/Eileen at OE are cut off at exactly 5 MB = 5242880 bytes. I still don't know why it happens. Many others are uploading larger files. Can you upload versions below 5 MB instead? At commons:File:One Energy Wind for Industry .jpg you had the 5 MB problem the first time but then uploaded the full 7.1 MB image. Did you change something like browser or Internet connection the second time, or was the only change that you used the link "Upload a new version of this file"? PrimeHunter (talk) 20:26, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
 * I have posted the issue at commons:Commons:Village pump. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:49, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
 * I'll be interested in hearing the final resolution of this, but in the meantime you can try using the commons:Commons:CropTool to get rid of the gray bar, though that doesn't necessarily help you in uploading what should have been there. MarginalCost (talk) 17:39, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
 * : I think it must have been a problem with load time or something. I ended up uploading entirely new photos, since I had others on file to choose from. Thank you so much for your help! Eileen at OE (talk) 20:17, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Odd page selected for my edit tutorial AND how/who flags articles?
I created an account today (last night). My edit tutorial page was British International School Hanoi. It appears to be an advertisement. The vast majority of citations go to the school's website itself, several other Nord Anglia Education websites, press releases and pages that let Nord Anglia promote itself. My understanding is that those types of shenanigans are not allowed. Who does the flagging? If it's any user, how is it done? Thanks for any help. LordFishbottom (talk) 18:10, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
 * This is being answered at the Teahouse.  Please don't post the same question in multiple places.  RudolfRed (talk) 18:43, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Why not? That's like a request for comment, it goes to multiple editors at the same time. So my opinion is he is ok asking in multiple places. Thinker78 (talk) 19:51, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Because it wastes the time of all those editors who follow both pages, and read it twice. Maproom (talk) 20:05, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
 * And it often wastes time of editors who make a reply in one place without knowing about existing replies in the other place. Simple issues like this should rarely be posted in two places and if they are then one of them should refer posters to the other to keep the discussion in one place. See WP:CROSS-POST. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:12, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Ok, makes sense, provided that the answer is provided in a reasonable timeframe in one place. Thinker78 (talk) 20:25, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Apologies to all, I noticed the HUGE link at the top of the page immediately after I creating this, so copied what I wrote here and posted it at the Teagarden. I will do better next time. And that edit that Monfster did was my first account before deciding on a new name both created yesterday-ish.  I won’t be using it again.  LordFishbottom (talk) 09:07, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
 * , how did you get an edit tutorial page? The flagging is done by any editor simply by adding a cleanup tag on top of the article. Thinker78 (talk) 20:02, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
 * I created the account and was immediately sent to that page. It was a tutorial on using the visual editor.  At the top was a message explaining that the page was known to have several spelling and grammatical errors.  Thank you for pointing out that method. LordFishbottom (talk) 09:07, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Do you have more than one account? You removed posts by . If that was not you, that is not something you should have done; See WP:TPO. If it is an alternative account you need to disclose this at the talk pages per WP:VALIDALT. Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 09:20, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
 * It's not an alternate account. I have no plans to use it, they were created within minutes of each other.  I had neglected to update my 1password login.  As I said before.  I'm beginning to regret that I even did this. No wonder there's user shortage. LordFishbottom (talk) 21:47, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

Unsourced statement categories
Hello. I just created the stub Shidong. I added some citation/verifiability templates, and the category that's showing up is Category:Articles with unsourced statements from June 2,018. I've tried using both subst and just writing out the date, and neither works. What's the issue here? – Julia (talk) 18:17, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Usage of the CN template places the article into Category:All articles with unsourced statements and Category:Articles with unsourced statements from June 2018 (example; past months are listed in Category:Articles with unsourced statements). So you'll have to choose what you want – clean interface or citation needed tags. Lourdes 19:00, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure I fully understand–I used cn and the wrong category (Category:Articles with unsourced statements from June 2,018) showed up, when Category:Articles with unsourced statements from June 2018 is supposed to. There are a few other articles in dates with commas, but I can't find a common pattern (AnomieBOT added all of them, but this isn't happening on all of the pages it edits). I just want to know how to get Shidong into the correct category. – Julia (talk) 19:13, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Perhaps more serious than the comma is that the redlinked category is shown among article categories, not hidden categories. The mystery remains: Dated tag elsewhere in the article, no problem; dated  tag in  in other articles, no problem. Re-insert the dated tag into any field of the infobox in this article, the problem returns Noyster  (talk),  19:19, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
 * I've looked at template doc. for 'cn', 'more citations needed' and 'infobox settlement'. Cannot see that there has been any recent disruptive changes. Also looked at Wikidata items. Mystery! Eagleash (talk) 19:35, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Infobox settlement thinks that  can only be a number, and it tries to reformat the parameter value with "correct" commas. To add a citation needed after the number, it has to be placed in  . -- John of Reading (talk) 19:38, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Wow, thank you! Would never have figured that out on my own. I fixed the few other pages that I could find with this problem too. – Julia (talk) 19:52, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

Creating templates.
I'm a Wikiquote user who is trying to find out how to make templates. I asked on Wikiquote, but since there are less users there, it is taking a while for people to respond. How are they created? Do you need to be a sysop to do it? J.A.R.N.Y.🗣 18:41, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
 * See Help:Template. There is a large section there on how to create templates, and also links to other resources.  I don't think you need to be an admin to create one.  RudolfRed (talk) 18:47, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I wouldn't have bothered you, but I'm not used to Wikipedia, and I don't know how to find things. J.A.R.N.Y.🗣 18:49, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

fr:Category:French women classical violinists
Hello,

I created this category some days ago and a Wikipedian (out of good faith, I'm sure) modified it. I don't doubt he had good reasons to do so but now the violinists who belonged to this category seem to have vanished in the air. As far as I remember there were 112 names (or was it 122?) What can be done about that? Thanks, LouisAlain (talk) 21:27, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Redrose64 was right to remove Category:French women classical violinists from itself.[//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:French_women_classical_violinists&diff=843693715&oldid=843000681] A category should not belong to itself. I can find no sign of other articles than Amanda Favier having been in the category. Maybe you are thinking of Category:French classical violinists which currently has 120 articles. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:48, 1 June 2018 (UTC)


 * I don't doubt Redrose64 was right to proceed the way he did but the category I created was meant to distinguish male (120 articles so far) (the one you link to Category:French classical violinists is devoted to male only) from female classical violinists (there were 112 as far as I can remember). Now the question remains: where have gone the articles devoted to French women classical violinists with the appropriate category? I spent several weeks on it. Indeed, for some unknown reason this Amanda Favier is left alone with the French women classical violinists. (I've just added Anne Gravoin). Where have all the others gone?


 * LouisAlain (talk) 04:28, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Category:French classical violinists has some women, e.g. Marie Cantagrill, Suzanne Chaigneau, Fanny Clamagirand, Claire Delbos from the start of the alphabet. I see you have changed your heading to say you created fr:Category:French women classical violinists.[//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Help_desk&diff=prev&oldid=844034482] That is a page at the French Wikipedia but it has never been created and you have not edited there since 2016. You created Category:French women classical violinists here at the English Wikipedia. It's possible to watch category membership. According to this, the only article to be removed from Category:French classical violinists in the past 30 days is Anne Gravoin whom you removed today [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Anne_Gravoin&diff=844034166&oldid=787583194]. No articles have been removed from Category:French women classical violinists‎, but I think the feature only works while the category exists and you created it 26 May. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:19, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
 * I have just proposed that this category be upmerged into Category:French classical violinists because such "asymmetric ghettoization" of female categories has been a source of considerable friction and even seriously adverse publicity in the past. It is in principle not acceptable to remove females from a non-gendered parent category, leaving it with only articles about males. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 09:36, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

Trying to find contribution list.
I am applying to be a sysop on Wikiquote, but someone there accused me of having "an extensive history of vandalism on Wikipedia". This is not true, and to prove it, I want to show my contribution history, but it turns up blank. Here is the link. I've edited Wikipedia, so why does it say "No changes were found matching these criteria."? J.A.R.N.Y.🗣 22:00, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Special:Contributions/Just_A_Regular_New_Yorker shows up a number of contributions when i try it, starting in October 2017. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 22:11, 1 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Well, I'm seeing some contributions on that link, and many of them are you appealing unsuccessfully against your ban for vandalism imposed in October 2017, days after opening your account, that you have only recently been released from. Aside from the serious vandalism, you have a negligible editing history and edit count compared to the several years and many thousands that most Wikipedia Editors need before applying to be Admins, so I'd be appalled if you were made a sysop on Wikidata. Others might differ, but I'll be interested to see their reasoning. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.202.160.23 (talk) 22:21, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
 * I would be appalled as well, which is why I am only trying to become a sysop on Wikiquote. Please read what people have said, before criticizing them. I only see the list when I am logged out. Any suggestions? J.A.R.N.Y.🗣 22:25, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
 * I guess you have enabled "Show only likely problem edits (and hide probably good edits)" at Special:Preferences. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:23, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

Changing the logo of a company
Hello,

We've been trying to change the logo of a company "Arab Advisors Group" on this page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_Advisors_Group but it's been a nightmare as there are a lotttttt of restrictions on who can change the logo and how to upload a new logo. To be honest, we couldn't understand it as it's a cumbersome process. And when I try to go to the organisation logo upload form, I receive an error saying that I'm not allowed to do so. It's really complicated.

Can you please tell me how to change the logo in a simple language?

Thanks Fouad — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fouadq (talk • contribs) 23:37, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
 * New users cannot upload copyrighted logos. I have uploaded a new version of File:Arab Advisors Group Logo.png from the official website. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:54, 1 June 2018 (UTC)