Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2018 May 25

= May 25 =

Blank lines
I was trying to follow the guidance on blank lines of MOS:INDENTGAP in an edit in the Pedro Perebal AfD talk but it didn't work. Could you tell me what went wrong and how can I add the blank lines to my wall of text following the guideline? Thinker78 (talk) 00:49, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Just add blank lines by pressing . Anyway, I did it for you. Warmly,  I_  0  ur c lc  5    04:41, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
 * But MOS:INDENTGAP states that blank lines like that shouldn't be used... Thinker78 (talk) 05:58, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
 * You don't (usually) use a blank line at the beginning of a new post as the indent (colon) or, where used, bullet point takes care of the formatting for you. However, if a post is long enough to split into paras, then pressing 'enter' to create them is fine. On another point, please don't post the same question in multiple locations. Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 06:32, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your input. I think it is helpful to post the same question elsewhere to get a second opinion, although I dont regularly do it. In this case, although I thank her for her input, is advising me to do exactly what MOS:INDENTGAP says not to do: "Blank lines must not be placed between colon-indented lines of text". So my question is why after I followed the procedure stated in MOS:INDENTGAP of adding colons in lieu of blank lines, the result wasn't apparent blank lines within the text. Thinker78 (talk) 07:25, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
 * To clarify previous answer: you don't add a blank line in the source, because the requisite number of colons will create a para. with a correctly fmtd whitespace between the last line of the previous para. and the first line of the new one.
 * Thus. Eagleash (talk) 09:25, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Can you provide an example using  if necessary because I'm not understanding how it is done. According to MOS:INDENTGAP, " If a blank line is needed, place the same number of colons on it as those preceding the text below the blank line", which is what I did but it didn't produce a blank line. Thinker78 (talk) 23:03, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

Glastonbudget
We need to place a block onto the page due to someone constantly adding miss guiding information which is both libellous and slanderous. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Turnpost (talk • contribs) 01:11, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Hello Turnpost, instead of adding templates like "protected" to the talk page of the article, you should simply start a new discussion on the talk page of Glastonbudget, in the same way as you started the discussion here. But focus on discussing why do you feel that the content does not meet Wikipedia's editing policy, rather than simply claiming that the content is libelous or slanderous. The page has been protected so you will need to reach out to the other editors on the talk page and reach consensus for your point of view. If this reply is not clear, please ask again. Thanks, '' I_  0  ur c lc  5  v  04:29, 25 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Turnpost I've blocked your user name since it breaches our rules. There are no circumstances in which you should edit the article directly because of your obvious conflict of interest (which, incidentally, you must declare). If you do make significant changes to the article after this warning, you may be blocked from editing at all. Jimfbleak - talk to me?  12:29, 25 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Incidentally, there is no point you adding "protected" templates, since a bot will remove them from unprotected pages. The page has now been semi-protected by admin . Also, at least one of the paedophilia accusations you describe as slander is referenced to the Leicester Mercury, a reliable source. Whether it should be in the article is another matter Jimfbleak - talk to me?  15:29, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

Adding a new MLM company to your list
Hi I would like to add my brand new company to your Multi Level Marketing Company list please It’s called MACPI Australia (Making A Child’s Place Important) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.110.96.227 (talk) 03:32, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi. Please don't. Wikipedia is not a directory for new companies to be added. When your company becomes notable and qualifies under Wikipedia's notability guidelines for organisations – WP:ORG – some or the other editor would probably create an article about your company then. While you're here, please also do read Wikipedia's conflict of interest guidelines. Feel free to ask for more assistance. Warmly,  I_  0  ur c lc  5    04:35, 25 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Also, Wikipedia lists are lists of Wikipedia articles -- unless/until your company has an article, it won't be on the list. —2606:A000:1126:4CA:0:98F2:CFF6:1782 (talk) 10:37, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Well, no. That's absolutely incorrect. Wikipedia lists don't need to be lists of Wikipedia articles. Lourdes 17:34, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

Multiple-language page
Hello,

Is there a possibility to delete the versions of a Wiki page in languages other than English? If not, is it possible to redirect the users from the page in another language to the one in English? Thanks a lot! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Margarita.knysh (talk • contribs) 07:43, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Please stop updating your company's page immediately. This editing violates WP:COI at a minimum, and if anyone from your company is paid to edit, then this editing violates WP:PAID, which is against Wikimedia's terms of use. Any paid editing MUST be disclosed per the policy at WP:PAID, and all edits by users with a conflict of interest (including unpaid edits by employees) should be proposed on the talk page of the article, following Wikipedia's guidelines at WP:COI. Iffy★Chat -- 08:33, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
 * As to your actual question, we only deal with the English Wikipedia here, questions as to whether the pages on other Wikipedias should be kept are dealt with on each Wikipedia. Iffy★Chat -- 08:33, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

How can I change the name of a page?
Hello,

I have just created https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Urban_Alps and it has Draft in its title.

Can you help me and delete Draft from title?

Thanks! David — Preceding unsigned comment added by DavidMihailMitran (talk • contribs) 11:37, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Hello, a pagename is changed by moving it to a new location. This is done via the 'more' tab at the top of the page. However, this will not be available to you until your account is at least four days old and you've made 10 or more valid edits. On the assumption this relates to Draft:Urban Alps, the page is not ready for inclusion in the encyclopedia as it stands. It is promotional in tone and there are a numberof style / layout issues. Please see WP:MOS for more information. When the page is considered ready for 'mainspace' you can add  to the top of the draft which will submit it for review, but if you do so now, it will almost certainly be rejected. I will also leave some useful links at your talk page. Please read those carefully before proceeding. Please rturn here if you need further assistance. Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 11:52, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

Also, it looks like promotional article and no significant sources. Most of the sources are from primary website. The subject of this article is not notable yet. Please see WP:NPOV, WP:N and WP:GNG. Thank you, Siddiqsazzad001       13:45, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

Using data/information gathered from Wikipedia??
To whom it may concern, We have written the first in the series of books about Wild Swimming in Cornwall that is enhanced with additional information about the swimming locations and as well as generic information about Cornwall. This first book is an arc from Bodmin Moor, via Lostwithiel, on around St Austell and Mevagissey Bays and down to the Fal estuary. The generic part of the series includes a Chapter entitled A Duchy Download that is separated in to sections on; geology, weather, demographics, economy, the arts and parking. We gathered information from many sources including your own and would appreciate your consent to use information gathered from your web site or publication. Chapter 9 will be titled; “References, Citations and additional sources of information; Apologies, Thank yous and contact details for feedback ; positive or constructively negative J” and we will be referring readers to your sites/publications for further information. There are no direct quotes included and the information was integrated often with other sources and personal knowledge and thus cannot be directly or specifically proffered as your own. We have a deadline for mid June with our printers and therefore ask you to respond in writing within two weeks of the letter’s date with permission to use you as a source within our book. If you have any questions, please do get in touch. Yours Truly,

Chryseis — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chryseis66 (talk • contribs) 12:11, 25 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Hello, . Nobody will get in touch with you: that's not how Wikipedia operates. The good news is that almost all the content of Wikipedia is (by design) licensed under a free licence such as CC-BY-SA, which means that anybody can reuse it for any purpose (commercial or not), without permission or payment, as long as they give appropriate credits. The exception is that some of our images are not so licensed, and are used under a "fair use" justification. If you plan to use any images from Wikipedia, then unfortunately you need to click on each one and look at its licensing status. See Reusing Wikipedia content for full details on all of this. --ColinFine (talk) 13:45, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
 * In addition to the excellent answer above, see also Copyrights, in particular the big red box which states Important note: The Wikimedia Foundation does not own copyright on Wikipedia article texts or illustrations. It is therefore pointless to email our contact addresses asking for permission to reproduce articles or images, even if rules at your company, school, or organization mandate that you ask web site operators before copying their content.. Tigraan Click here to contact me 15:25, 25 May 2018 (UTC)


 * You also also free to use direct quotes, up to and including entire Wikipedia articles. For quotes, you probably need more explicit attribution than you do when merely citing information, to avoid allegations of plagiarism. -Arch dude (talk) 16:03, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

No menu Displaying on page
This page (Wax foundation) is not displaying a menu for the sections. Can someone explain me why this is? I can not find any technical explanation in the code or in any other setting.

Can someone fix it and provide some documentation on how it is done for future reference?

Thank you, Blazing Liberty 12:30, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Can you explain what you mean, I'm seeing a table of centents when viewing the page; are you editing from a mobile device? If so try scrolling to the bottom of the page and select 'desktop' mode. Cheers. Eagleash (talk) 12:41, 25 May 2018 (UTC)]


 * I just went back to the page and it is now displaying. No, I was editing and viewing on a Windows 10 machine and viewing in Chrome. Problem solved but it remains a mystery as to why. Blazing Liberty 13:05, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I note some new sctions have been created today: there may not have been enough to generate a TOC prior to this. Eagleash (talk) 13:08, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Right, four section headings are required to automatically generate a table of contents unless the page contains  . The article had three at the time of the original post but now has four.  Please remove the checkmark at "Treat the above as wiki markup" at Special:Preferences. This will generate a correct signature with a link to your user page. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:38, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

Will my draft be published?
Hi, I'm sorry for being such a novice at this but today I wrote a draft article for Wikipedia. It now looks to be saved/published as a draft. The title of the page is Headcount Records. It's about a record label. Will someone eventually get around to publishing this page or is it just sitting there in the wrong folder. Any help is much appreciated.

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by CJL 2008 (talk • contribs) 16:11, 25 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Hello, . I have added a header to Draft:Headcount Records so that when it is ready to be reviewed you can submit it for review. However, I'm afraid it is a long way from that point at present. I suggest you read Your first article and NCORP carefully. Basically, Wikipedia is not interested in the slightest in what you, or I, or any random person on the Internet, knows, thinks or believes; and in an article about Headcount Records it has hardly any interest in what Headcount Records or its employees, friends, or associates, think or say. It is only interested in what people who have no connection whatever with Headcount Records have chosen to write about it, and been published in reliable sources (that is, those with a reputation for editorial control and fact checking). So rather than writing what you know and then looking for sources, you should be finding sources, and writing based entirely on what those sources say. If in fact there are few or no substantial independent reliably published sources about the label, then it does not currently meet Wikipedia's criteria for Notability, and no article will be accepted however it is written.
 * One more point: are you Chris Leigh? If you are (or are in any other way associated with the label), you need to read about conflict of interest and possibly Paid editing.
 * Sorry to throw so much at you. But the fact is that creating a new article is one of the hardest things to do successfully on Wikipedia; and if you have a conflict of interest it is several degrees harder. --ColinFine (talk) 22:53, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
 * pings still don't work when you fix and resign a previous post so let me do this to make sure they get a red dot :-) MarnetteD&#124;Talk 22:57, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

How to find articles pertaining to a geographical area
I'm interested in finding all the Wikipedia articles associated with a small geographical region. I'm familiar with categories, which can help find some articles, but it would be really cumbersome to find them all and to be certain that I've found them all. Does Wikipedia have any kind of feature where I could pull up a map and it would drop a pin (or something like that) on every feature that has an associated Wikipedia article? Or maybe there is some external website that does this? Thanks in advance for your help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Justalittlequestion (talk • contribs) 17:42, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
 * One possibility is, enter a keyword into the search box (top right) and you shoukd get a drop down. At the bottom of this you should see a 'selection' "containing xxxx". Clicking on that will take you to a list of articles. Whether that will find them all is debatable... that could be a little unlikely howver you search. Eagleash (talk) 18:30, 25 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Articles with coordinates have the coordiates automatically copied into the article's wikidata item. Wikidata is a searchable database. However, 1) I am not knowledgable about how to do general searches in wikidata, 2) I do not know if coordinates are reduced to single numbers, and 3) I do not know if range searches are possible. If they are, you will still need to be careful for locations near the equator, the prime meridian, and the anti-meridian, because the numerical coordinates there may be discontinuous. You search will be of the form "all articles with lat> X-d and lat < X+d and lon >Y+d and lon <Y+d". If you do find a way to use wikidata for this, please report back here. (Meanwhile, I'll wander away and try to do some research...)-Arch dude (talk) 20:36, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
 * There are example queries for this at d:Wikidata:SPARQL query service/queries/examples. Find an example similar to what you want, click on the "try it!" link to preload it inot the query editor, edit you query, and then run it. The result will be a map unless you modify the query to produce a list instead. -Arch dude (talk) 21:31, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Google Maps has some way to identify nearby wikipedia article locations on a map based on the wikidata, but I have not used it for awhile. (sigh, more research...)-Arch dude (talk) 20:36, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Sigh. It looks like Google disabled this years ago. -Arch dude (talk) 21:31, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
 * There's a feature like this in the mobile site - click "nearby" in the menu. I haven't tried it, however it might also work if you go to [en.m.wikipedia.org] on a normal web browser. LittlePuppers (talk) 23:36, 27 May 2018 (UTC)

Go to https://copernix.io/ and zoom in on the area you want.--Shantavira|feed me 10:54, 28 May 2018 (UTC)

Help:Cite errors/Cite error ref no input. I accidentally pressed the reference button and now I can't fix my own mistake.
I can't fix my own mistake in the Arcadium Release section.
 * ✅ see why here.--Moxy (talk) 20:46, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

Change title of a draft
I started and article and then I saw errors I made in title afterwords, Draft:The Kiddnapping of Rosalynn McGinnis, I would like to correct it to be: Kidnapping of Rosalynn McGinnis. How can I do that? Thank you. MissTofATX (talk) 22:52, 25 May 2018 (UTC)MissTofATX
 * See Moving a page. Adam9007 (talk) 23:02, 25 May 2018 (UTC)