Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2018 May 29

= May 29 =

Gledhow Hall
Could this page have this category added at the  bottom please - "List of British artists". Thanks 110.147.205.88 (talk) 00:18, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Can you explain why you think this would be appropriate? Gledhow Hall is a building, not an artist, so why should it be included in a list of artists? {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.197.26.63 (talk) 06:08, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I think that because the painting by Turner of Gledhow Hall is well- known. Therefore, the category should be at the bottom of the pages. Certainly the category Peers and/or The Peerage should be added ad a category. Thanks 175.33.22.145 (talk) 06:37, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
 * No, if you look at our page about Categorization you will see that articles are put in categories according to the essential—defining—characteristics of [the] topic – not according to anything mentioned in the article that has some sort of association with the topic of the article. So Gledhow Hall belongs only in categories about buildings, not categories about people who used to own it or paintings that hang there. Readers wanting to know more about Turner may follow the wikilink to our article about Turner, and that article is categorized into Category:English landscape painters, Category:British marine artists, and others Noyster (talk),  10:18, 29 May 2018 (UTC)

Can't find problematic displaytitle
The bottom of our Blenden Hall article has a routine red warning:"Warning: Display title '&lt;i>Blenden Hall</i&gt;' overrides earlier display title 'Blenden Hall'."Problem is, the article has no { {DISPLAYTITLE}} coding. I suppose an infobox provides DISPLAYTITLE, but the name appears only once in the infobox coding, and it's seemingly identical to what the page title should be. And finally, un-italicising Blenden Hall in the first infobox doesn't work; if you preview, you see that the name is wrongly romanised in the infobox, and the warning's still visible at the bottom of the page. So, how does this get fixed?

Nyttend (talk) 02:37, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I guess corrected it in this diff. 04:40, 29 May 2018 (UTC) Lourdes

Help:Cite errors/Cite error included ref
I was a close friend of Grace McNeil's Daughter all is personal observations and talking to the family. while some of the information can be  found in references. The other needs to be passed on to responsible researchers — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lhbbooks (talk • contribs) 03:46, May 29, 2018 (UTC)
 * Hello. If your query is about the article Scarlett O'Hara where you may be trying to insert personal observations, please note that content in Wikipedia articles should be based on verifiable content than on personal observations. Please give a read to our editing policy to understand this better. Write back if you need more assistance. Thanks, 04:45, 29 May 2018 (UTC) Lourdes


 * Sadly, Wikipedia has no way to pass your observations on to researchers. We don't have researchers of our own, and we have no mechanism for incorporation of original research into Wikipedia. It would be great if we could establish a research sister project, or an information exchange to which researchers can subscribe, but that is not what we are or what we do. I find this frustrating, and so do many well-meaning newcomers such as yourself. -Arch dude (talk) 05:10, 29 May 2018 (UTC)

My edit was reverted despite references provided.
Please help me with the contributions I made yesterday to the Personal life section in the profile of Hafþór Júlíus Björnsson. My edit and updating of information was allowed yesterday, whereas upon checking right now I noticed the section has gone back to being what it was before the edit. I have not received any notification of any problems. What has happened? Please let me know? UditaCh (talk) 05:13, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
 * UditaCh, perhaps you missed the edit summary to the reverting edit? reverted because you used primary sources, which amounts to  original research and violates  the biographies of living persons policy. Please read the links to avoid future errors  Jimfbleak -  talk to me?  05:29, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
 * [Edit Conflict] If you go to the article and click on the "View history" tab at top right, you will see at or near the top of the (long) list of all edits ever made to the page (since its creation on 12 August 2010) that, late last night, User:Hrodvarsson reverted the article to a previous version (before your numerous and sizeable additions) for the reason he gave in his edit summary – "Reverted to revision 842447064 by 150.116.121.173: A lot of this is unacceptable due to primary sourcing and violations of the biographies of living persons policy.", but goes on to say "I will restore the relevant information and sources in a short while."
 * Your edits were initially "allowed" because they go live as soon as you click the "Publish Change" button. Now another editor has had time to look at them and has (partially) disagreed with them because (he asserts, doubtless correctly) that they violated certain rules and policies that we follow, and need to be brought in line with them as far as possible, which he has said that he will do. (Please remember that we are all volunteers who edit Wikipedia as a hobby from our own individual premises, not a co-ordinated team of professionals!) If he had been strictly punctilious, he might have "pinged" you or posted on your User talk page about this, but he may have been pressed for time (or in need of sleep!) after his urgent action (violations of BLP policy require speedy rectification), and in any case you have quickly noticed the situation.
 * The appropriate place to continue discussion of these edits is the "Talk" tab of the article: you could also query Hrodvarsson on his own talk page, or he could post on yours, but this would tend to exclude any other editors who might wish to contribute to the discussions.
 * All this is the normal process of collaborative editing by which articles are modified (or not). As to Hrodvarsson's initial objections to the form of your edits, you might like to read BLP and Primary. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195}


 * Hi I believe Hafþór Júlíus Björnsson is the targeted page you mentioned above.  You have added many primary source from Instagram, Facebook, YouTube regarding an allegation of domestic violent complained by Björnsson's ex partner. Please note that content added a page regarding biography of a living person needs to support by independent, reliable source. Secondly, a living person accused of a crime is presumed not guilty unless a conviction is secure by a court, for such it would be best to leave out the content  when no conviction is made by court.Thank you.  CASSIOPEIA(talk) 06:58, 29 May 2018 (UTC)

Firefox becomes slow and unresponsive when I edit some articles
It usually happens when I edit large articles but could happen for medium and small articles too. Any solution? --Wario-Man (talk) 07:56, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Does it happen if you log out and edit the same article? Do you have other open tabs in Firefox? PrimeHunter (talk) 10:14, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Pinging for response.  JTP  (talk • contribs) 14:51, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
 * It's random but when I have multiple tabs with opened WP pages and then I decide to edit one of them, the mentioned problem occurs more than the other times. Could be related to my FF add-ons or WP scripts? --Wario-Man (talk) 19:26, 29 May 2018 (UTC)


 * I don't think it is the problem of WP scripts. Maybe firefox browser. Please give me your pc information. Sometime its happen for Ram uses too many CPU resources or Unresponsive script prompt. You can see Firefox Help support. Thank you, Siddiqsazzad001       20:02, 29 May 2018 (UTC)


 * OK, thanks for the help. --Wario-Man (talk) 09:40, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

2018 United States child abduction scandal
I'm sure if this were going on in any other country, Wikipedia would have an article with a title similar to that one, but I can't for the life of me find any information about this ongoing event on Wikipedia. I assume there is an article, given the amount of media coverage. Can someone enlighten me as to what euphemism is being used to refer to it? Thanks 185.24.236.18 (talk) 08:29, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Immigration policy of Donald Trump or List of federal political scandals in the United States?  Tera TIX  08:46, 29 May 2018 (UTC)

Library technician
2 Problems - Are the subheadings the correct size font  and is reference number 2 done correctly? Please assist me if you can. Thankyou. 175.33.22.145 (talk) 09:43, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Main section headings should be shown as "Level 2" headings, like this ==Section heading== and subsections within the sections as Level 3, like this ===Subsection=== . Our Cheatsheet is a handy guide to the most frequently used forms of Wiki markup. The book ref looks fine to me, though the article as a whole could do with a few more references. Oh, and we didn't need "Librarian" in the See also section, as the word is already linked in the text of the article Noyster (talk),  10:35, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
 * It might also be an idea to create a lead section, providing a brief summary of the topic. If you do this and add some level 2 section headings, it will also create a table of contents which makes the page easier to read or navigate. As It stands there is quite a large amount of text before the first 'natural break'. Eagleash (talk) 10:41, 29 May 2018 (UTC)

Gledhow Hall
I am embarassed. I am on a small phone and tried to edit but wiped out the top of the above page. Please fix sorry175.33.22.145 (talk) 11:28, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I have reverted the edit. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:33, 29 May 2018 (UTC)

Changing an Image
Hello,

I'd like to change the image of "Ovum". Here is the Page - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ovum_Ltd.

The image indicated on this page is the old Ovum logo. I'd like to replace it with the actual logo but I am unable to do so.

Here is the Ovum Ltd home page - https://ovum.informa.com/

As you can see, the Logo is different.

Could the image please be changed to the actual Logo?

Kind regards, Gabriel Gabraad (talk) 14:45, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
 * ✅ I uploaded it to File:Ovum Logo.png. I'm not sure if it still meets to qualifications for "simple shapes" for Commons, so I uploaded it on Wikipedia. CTF</b><b style="color:green">8</b><b style="color:blue">3</b><b style="color:#60c">!</b> 16:41, 29 May 2018 (UTC)

Notability question
Hi, I was wondering if there is a place to go where I can ask if a topic is notable enough before creating the article. I don't exactly want to put effort into writing an article if it will simply be deleted. 21:02, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Each contributor makes a notability decision based on the guidelines at WP:NOTABLE. Basically, you need to find "multiple reliable sources" as we define them at WP:RS. If you have found sources but are unsure if they suffice, create a draft with a one-line assertion of notability and add your references, then go ask for an assessment of this "hyper-stub" article before actually filling out the article. (Now, I will wander away and figure out where you should ask, but if all else fails come back here...)-Arch dude (talk) 22:42, 29 May 2018 (UTC)

Hugo Grenier
Can anyone help me I feel like im losing my mind, haha. I was editing the page of Hugo Grenier and the doubles finals he’s won appear on the preview and can be edited but then they seem to have disappeared now the page is saved. Have I done something silly? Hildreth gazzard (talk) 20:22, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: The above copied from the talk page. Eagleash (talk) 22:35, 29 May 2018 (UTC)

Wrong photo on my wikipedia page
How do I change the head shot on my wikipedia page? Here's the page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathleen_Gallagher I uploaded my head shot: File:Kathleen Gallagher.JPG But can't figure out how to get my real head shot on my pageKathleengall (talk) 23:31, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
 * The page is using a tformat for the infobox I’ve not seen myself before either, but I took a shot at adding an image parameter and linking to the new image and that seems to have done it. Beeblebrox (talk) 23:36, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
 * At the time of your post the article automatically used the image in the Wikidata item . I have changed that image to the one you uploaded. But Beeblebrox had already changed the article to override Wikidata and use the new image anyway. I have also added your image to commons:Category:Kathleen Gallagher to help others find it. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:50, 29 May 2018 (UTC)

Thanks much! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kathleengall (talk • contribs) 02:42, 30 May 2018 (UTC)