Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2018 November 15

= November 15 =

RFA Formatting
Can someone please help me correctly format my RFA? Apparently I made a mistake. Thank you.WikiHogan654 (talk) 00:47, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Do you have link to the page you need help with? I didn't see one in your contributions.  RudolfRed (talk) 00:49, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Requests for adminship/WikiHogan654 was deleted. --David Biddulph (talk) 00:56, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
 * WikiHogan654 - I don't want to discourage you at all (and please hear me out), but administrators are senior-level users that the community by consensus trusts to use the tools appropriately and given a long-term history of consistent policy knowledge and above-average familiarity and involvement in very key and important areas. I highly recommend that you go through and review this essay as well as this one before spending any more time on your RFA application, and I think you'll come to realize that you're running much too soon and that you're missing experience and knowledge in important areas that the community will expect an expert-level knowledge of. I don't want to see your time wasted and you being left feeling disheartened; the RFA process is a very harsh one, and this is why I'm messaging you to reconsider running at this time... If you're still set on running, I'd perhaps visit this candidate poll page first and ask other editors and admins to rate you and your probability first.  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   00:54, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
 * I guess it was deleted. I'll create a new one and hopefully get it right this time. I realize I'm a long shot, I'm doing this for the little guy, and I guess we'll see how people vote. Thanks.WikiHogan654 (talk) 01:03, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
 * WikiHogan654, on Wikipedia we're all "little guys". Admins aren't bigger than anyone else, they've merely demonstrated the competence necessary to do (rather irksome) housekeeping work – more janitors than managers. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 2.218.14.42 (talk) 00:27, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

I want to protect a page of a leaving person from false information
I want to protect a page of a leaving person from false information. Please let me know how to do that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rqtdulu (talk • contribs) 07:15, 15 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Pages are protected only if there is persistent vandalism. You cannot preserve your preferred version.  Is this about Ruhul Quddus Talukdar?   Dbfirs  08:34, 15 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Furthermore,, if you are Dulu (as seems likely from your username) then you have a conflict of interest and should not be editing the article directly at all: you are welcome to suggest edits on the article's talk page, preferably with citation to reliable published sources, but it is up to a non-involved editor to decide what changes to make. --ColinFine (talk) 18:19, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

Difference in templates: Pagelinks and la
What is the difference between Pagelinks and la?—Cpt.a.haddock (talk) (please ping when replying) 13:46, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
 * They are not the only two templates available. Template:Pagelinks gives a list of the various templates that are available and their uses. (And links to other template documentation). Cheers. Eagleash (talk) 15:03, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure I understand. Barring the first "example" line right at the top and the template usage count, the two pages look identical. Shouldn't one be a redirect to the other? Thanks for the reply :)—Cpt.a.haddock (talk) (please ping when replying) 15:07, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
 * They're related but not identical. Pagelinks is a master template and can be used for a page in any namespace while la is meant to be used (or rendered correctly) only with pages in mainspace. So whereever la is used, it can be replaced with Pagelinks but not vice versa. There's quite difference and need for both to exist. –Ammarpad (talk) 15:14, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Ah, I see. Thank you :)—Cpt.a.haddock (talk) (please ping when replying) 15:19, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

Inviting comments from other editors
Hi, a difference of opinion has arisen over a small wording issue in an article, as described at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Blackwater_railway_station_(Isle_of_Wight)#Image_caption. I would like to invite other, uninvolved editors to comment on this, but it is a very obscure and low-traffic article that people are unlikely to just stumble across. Is there some way that I can advertise this? Mypix (talk) 15:08, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
 * You could start a formal Request for Comment. 331dot (talk) 15:12, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Before going all the way to RfC, maybe try Third opinion. Both are part of the process you will find at WP:DISPUTE. -Arch dude (talk) 16:19, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

America's History LLC
Im Jim from America's History LLC I would like to know how to create a article on the company because when I tried to create it I received a error message

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How can I fix the error and create the article on America's History LLC — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jimfromamericashistoryllc (talk • contribs) 16:06, 15 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Here are the steps you should follow to write any article:
 * 0) First, you must disclose your employment on your user page, per our policy on paid editing. Even if you are volunteering to write the article, because you are affiliated with them, you must disclose your employment with them as if you were being paid by them to write the article.
 * 1) Choose a topic whose notability is attested by discussions of it in several reliable independent sources.
 * 2) Gather as many professionally-published mainstream academic or journalistic sources you can find.
 * 3) Focus on just the ones that are not dependent upon or affiliated with the subject, but still specifically about the subject and providing in-depth coverage (not passing mentions). If you do not have at least three such sources, the subject is not yet notable and trying to write an article at this point will only fail.
 * 4) Summarize those sources left after step 3, adding citations at the end of them. You'll want to do this in a program with little/no formatting, like Microsoft Notepad or Notepad++, and not in something like Microsoft Word or LibreOffice Writer.  Make sure this summary is just bare statement of facts, phrased in a way that even someone who hates the subject can agree with.
 * 5) Combine overlapping summaries (without arriving at new statements that no individual source supports) where possible, repeating citations as needed.
 * 6) Paraphrase the whole thing just to be extra sure you've avoided any copyright violations or plagiarism.
 * 7) Use the Article wizard to post this draft and wait for approval.
 * 8) Expand the article using sources you put aside in step 2 (but make sure they don't make up more than half the sources for the article, and make sure that affiliated sources don't make up more than half of that).
 * Doing something besides those steps typically results in the article not being approved, or even in its deletion. Ian.thomson (talk) 16:16, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

Stephen Bernard oxford
Hello,

This article was as my son has made clear created in contravention of the guidelines of your chatroom. Please delete it

MB — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7D:A37D:1A00:40D6:1108:E314:4BBD (talk) 21:37, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Please provide a link to the page concerned. Please also clarify what guidelines you feel have been contravened, and if/where this has been previously discussed on Wikipedia (made to clear to whom etc?). Please note that pages are only deleted under certain circumstances not if the subject does not like it or they did not 'give permission' (which is not required). Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 22:01, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Articles for deletion/Stephen Bernard. The IP user has made their views known, and the deletion discussion is scheduled to finish within about four days. -- zzuuzz (talk) 22:07, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

Michael Obafemi
In reference to the Micheal Obafemi edit why did me changing the height section throw off the entire article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stephen79678 (talk • contribs) 21:44, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Because with this edit part of the reference was removed including the opening 'curly' brackets which caused the formatting error. Please sign your posts on talk pages by typing four tildes ( ~ ). Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 21:55, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

That makes sense. Thanks for your assistance. I’m quite new to all of this so I had no clue. Thank you :) Stephen79678 (talk) 22:25, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

University College, Durham
I have    accidently  ruined   a  table - please  alter  but  leave  in  my  correction  (I  added the  title  "Sir"  to  Tim  Laurence)  Thanks Srbernadette (talk) 23:00, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Looks like your edit has been reverted. If you still want the change done, you can use the "Preview" option before publishing changes, or work in your sandbox.  RudolfRed (talk) 00:13, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
 * I've made the change, ; perhaps you'd like to look and see how I did it. (Note that either "Tim Laurence" or "Sir Timothy (Laurence)" might be appropriate in different contexts, but "Sir Tim" is possibly inappropriate.)
 * Amusing coincidence, apparently my father startled Sir Timothy's wife during the Remembrance Day march-past last Sunday, by giving the command "Eyes right", when his section passed Her Highness at the Guards Memorial, at full parade-square volume. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.23.195} 2.218.14.42 (talk) 00:58, 16 November 2018 (UTC)