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= September 19 =

the monmouth rebellion
The article contains an error. Dryden`s Absolom and Achitophel did not deal with the Monmouth rebelllion;the poem was published four years earlier,in 1681. It was a satire on the Popish Plot,an entirely false allegation by Dr Titus Oates that the Roman Catholics of England were plotting to murder King Charles II.

In your article,it says that the poem deals in part with the Monmouth Rebellion. This is quite wrong. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Toates (talk • contribs) 10:03, 19 September 2018 (UTC)


 * Have you read the reference in the article, or what is said in the article on Absalom and Achitophel? If you disagree with the reference or the interpretation, do you have another reliable source?  In any case, the place for discussion is on the article's talk page, Talk:Monmouth Rebellion. --David Biddulph (talk) 10:29, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Dryden was referencing the crisis of 1681, not the Monmouth rebellion; although all the relevant articles are in sufficiently poor shape as to make the error understandable, if unacceptable. WP:BOLD, applies, IP. —SerialNumber54129  paranoia / cheap sh*t room 10:52, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

smarteach.com
In the smarteach the company name MEDRC is changed to medisys — Preceding unsigned comment added by Srinivas Medisys (talk • contribs) 10:45, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

List of wedding guests of Prince Harry and Meghan Markle
Ref number 11 is in  red. please attempt to  repair  if you  are  able. Thanks from a confused  editor 175.33.45.21 (talk) 11:07, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
 * ✅: 2108 instead of 2018, again! The red message was quite clear that there was something wrong with the date. Please try to fix simple errors yourself. Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 11:16, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Sorry -  I  looked  and looked,  you  have been very  patient  with  me.  175.33.45.21 (talk) 11:22, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

Adding Information
I am a member of an Aviation Museum. How can I add information toa article For example we have a lot of aircraft and engines that we would like to be added to ON Display or Survivor posts.124.169.182.238 (talk) 11:39, 19 September 2018 (UTC)


 * If you are an ordinary member who is not employed or paid by the museum, you could probably just make the edits, but, to avoid any WP:Conflict of interest issues, it might be best to make the suggestions for change on the talk page of the article.  Dbfirs  12:28, 19 September 2018 (UTC)


 * If the museum already has an article, just proceed as Dbfirs said, but make sure you cite sources. If there are not enough pictures, feel free to take your own pictures if the museum allows it and add them (come back here for help). Do not add their pictures or other people's pictures: you do not own the copyrights for them. If no article exists, first ensure that the museum is notable by our definition, not yours, and then follow the instructions at WP:YFA.-Arch dude (talk) 16:28, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

Edits to the Taylor Woodrow page
Hi There,

I have been trying to update the Taylor Woodrow Wikipedia page and the edits do not seem to remain on the page even after I publish them.

Please can you assist me on this as I am getting a little frustrated?

THANKS

Tim — Preceding unsigned comment added by Taylor Woodrow (talk • contribs) 12:19, 19 September 2018 (UTC)


 * That's because there is a problem with your user name. Please read your talk page, and let us know what connection you have with the subject.   Db<i style="color: #4fc;">f</i><i style="color: #6f6;">i</i><i style="color: #4e4;">r</i><i style="color: #4a4">s</i>  12:23, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

I have now changed my user name to Tim Freeman-Taylor Woodrow, will the changes I made earlier be rectified once the username is confirmed?

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Taylor Woodrow (talk • contribs) 12:29, 19 September 2018 (UTC)


 * No, because some of your edits were written from the point of view of the company. Wikipedia must use an encyclopaedic tone, and never uses "our".  Because you have a WP:Conflict of interest, and probably WP:Paid status, you need to declare this and preferably suggest changes on the talk page of the article.   <i style="color: blue;">D</i><i style="color: #0cf;">b</i><i style="color: #4fc;">f</i><i style="color: #6f6;">i</i><i style="color: #4e4;">r</i><i style="color: #4a4">s</i>  12:37, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

Are you able to help confirm & accept my updated username? Many thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Taylor Woodrow (talk • contribs) 12:34, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

I work for the company and I am working with the external communications manager to align our messaging with our website. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Taylor Woodrow (talk • contribs) 12:37, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

Please can you confirm that once my username has been confirmed, I will be able to up date the page using encyclopedic tones as I was before? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Taylor Woodrow (talk • contribs) 12:41, 19 September 2018 (UTC)


 * You need to make a declaration of your WP:Paid status, and please do not make edits directly to the article. Wikipedia has no interest in what your company wants to say about itself, and will not align an article to match your "message".  However, if there are factual errors in the article, then we are keen to correct them if you point these out.   <i style="color: blue;">D</i><i style="color: #0cf;">b</i><i style="color: #4fc;">f</i><i style="color: #6f6;">i</i><i style="color: #4e4;">r</i><i style="color: #4a4">s</i>  12:44, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

There is a lot that needs updating / amending. Such as logos, links, text... So you are suggesting the only way todo this is to do it through pointing out factual errors? Why can I not edit the page directly? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Taylor Woodrow (talk • contribs) 12:51, 19 September 2018 (UTC)


 * Please post from your new account,, and not from the old one. Before editing further, and that includes here, you must make the declaration of paid editing required at WP:Paid editing;  it is a mandatory condition.  You may not edit the article directly because you have a conflict of interest.  Any changes which you propose on the article talk page, supported by independent published reliable sources will be considered by other editors and implemented if appropriate. --David Biddulph (talk) 13:06, 19 September 2018 (UTC)


 * The current article is about the historic company, not the modern division. I'm not sure how we deal with situations like this, but we have some experts who will advise.  What you must not do is to copy material directly from a copyright website.  This will always be reverted.   <i style="color: blue;">D</i><i style="color: #0cf;">b</i><i style="color: #4fc;">f</i><i style="color: #6f6;">i</i><i style="color: #4e4;">r</i><i style="color: #4a4">s</i>  13:21, 19 September 2018 (UTC)


 * There was a separate article Taylor Woodrow Construction, but the content got merged back into Taylor Woodrow. There has been some discussion at Talk:Taylor Woodrow, and that is where further discussion belongs.  The heritage is discussed, to some extent, at http://www.taylorwoodrow.com/about-us/our-heritage.html, so that might be a useful source for future changes, provided that Tim Freeman - Taylor Woodrow understands the difference between
 * providing new text based on a published source and
 * copying copyrighted material.
 * --David Biddulph (talk) 14:00, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

@David Biddulph : now posting from my new account. I have been on the WP:Paid editing page, how do I make the declaration of paid editing?

@Dbfirs : Thank you. Is there someone you would be able to put me in contact with? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tim Freeman - Taylor Woodrow (talk • contribs) 13:34, 19 September 2018 (UTC)


 * Which part of Paid-contribution disclosure don't you understand? And please make sure that messages on discussion pages such as this have a signature. --David Biddulph (talk) 13:43, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

Hi David Biddulph, are you able to assist me with this? Please could you also see the suggested changes I have made for the TW page and let me know how best to proceed? Thanks for your help, appreciated.--Tim Freeman - Taylor Woodrow (talk) 14:51, 19 September 2018 (UTC)


 * On your user page you need to add something of the form


 * At the top of Talk:Taylor Woodrow you should place.


 * I have commented on your proposal at Talk:Taylor Woodrow. Hopefully other editors will comment too. --David Biddulph (talk) 15:12, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

Providing additional information
Do you have to be registered or have to Log In to provide information — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.169.182.238 (talk) 12:52, 19 September 2018 (UTC)


 * No, we have some very good editors who prefer not to create an account, but there are advantages, including increased anonymity (since IP addresses can be traced to some extent). See WP:Why create an account?.   <i style="color: blue;">D</i><i style="color: #0cf;">b</i><i style="color: #4fc;">f</i><i style="color: #6f6;">i</i><i style="color: #4e4;">r</i><i style="color: #4a4">s</i>  12:58, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

Creating new pages
I want to contribute a lot about bihar. Help me in creating useful pages. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amitkr5339 (talk • contribs) 13:59, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Follow the guidance at WP:YFA, and there is a Wizard there to help you create a draft for review. Creating a new article is not easy, and the usual advice to new editors is to start by improving existing articles instead.  RudolfRed (talk) 16:27, 19 September 2018 (UTC)


 * Welcome, and thanks for offering to help. Your information might fit into our existing articles about Bihar. If so please add it there. This is a good way to learn about editing Wikipedia. Please make sure you cite reliable sources (WP:RS) when you add information. If you wish add information about a notable Bihari subject that does not fit well in an existing article, then proceed as described by RudolfRed.-Arch dude (talk) 16:38, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

Afc
Why there a huge backlog at Afc review, as it takes long time. Why not make more Reviewers? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Javed Dogar (talk • contribs) 18:04, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
 * If you know a magic spell that will create more people to review the articles, please cast it, or at least teach it to us. Otherwise, I don't know what else we can do.  Wikipedia is a volunteer project, and all tasks (including reviewing AFC submissions) requires random people to wander by and decide to do it.  I'm not sure how we force more unpaid, random volunteers to do that.  -- Jayron <b style="color:#090">32</b> 18:06, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your interest. Please feel free to start reviewing articles at AFC. -Arch dude (talk) 18:22, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
 * The OP does not meet the criteria set out at WP:WikiProject Articles for creation/Participants to be allowed to review at AFC. --David Biddulph (talk) 18:31, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Sorry, David, my mistake. I hope the new editor will strive to learn enough to become a good reviewer while working to meet the criteria. -Arch dude (talk) 19:37, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
 * But he could be. The only real requirement is "stick around at Wikipedia long enough" and "be willing to fairly apply the criteria".  The OP can do all of that, surely.  -- Jayron <b style="color:#090">32</b> 02:05, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

Lua error
Hello everyone, Who can tell me how can i fix this error at ckbwiki? Tap the red text, you will see something. Thank you. ئارام بکر (talk) 19:32, 19 September 2018 (UTC)


 * This help desk is for the English Wikipedia. If you have questions regarding the Sorani Wikipedia, you need to ask there.  Their help desk is at ckb:ویکیپیدیا:پرسگا. --David Biddulph (talk) 19:52, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
 * you are right! But the codes are same. Mmm... enwiki users are created the templates and the modules and there skills are best; I just Copy it and paste to ours Wikipedia. Can not you help me to fix it? Anyone? Or just advise me to fix Lua errors. Thank you again. ئارام بکر (talk) 20:45, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
 * , you can try asking at WT:LUA Galobtter (pingó mió) 20:58, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
 * It looks like the problem in this case is that the module doesn't work for wikis in languages that don't use the same number system as English. Why that happens is somewhat confusing, but it has something the module relying on strings being implicitly interpreted as numbers. &#123;&#123;3x&#124;p&#125;&#125;ery (talk) 21:20, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you all. I fixed it.ئارام بکر (talk) 16:38, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

Short description at Toluca
Currently, the WP:Short description at Toluca says, "City and municipality in Mexico, Mexico". This look strange to me and I would like to edit it (remove the repeated dashes, etc.)  However, there is no short description template used in the article. Normally, this would mean that the short description on the Wikipedia article defaults to the text of the short description of the corresponding Wikidata item. But Q209034 has the short description "City in the capital municipality of Mexico State", which is different. So where is the short description coming from? And how can I edit it? Deli nk (talk) 20:07, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
 * the short description is automatically generated from infobox settlement. I fixed the issue Galobtter (pingó mió) 20:11, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I had no idea that it was generated by the infobox.  Deli nk (talk) 20:17, 19 September 2018 (UTC)


 * Templates are always a good place to look if you can't find something directly in the page wikicode, but there is a clue at WP:Short description. --David Biddulph (talk) 20:30, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

Shasta Regional Medical Center
ORIGINALLY POSTED ON TALK SECTION OF WIKI PAGE; NO RESPONSE. I do work for multiple hospitals in California, largely on communications related issues. Full disclosure, Prime Healthcare, owner of Shasta, is one of my lesser clients but I am reimbursed for my time. My background, however, is in print journalism, and as a former journalist I'm struck by the lack of consistency and relevance of some of the items included in hospital postings. Yes, believe it or not reputation is important for hospitals, which work hard to position themselves as community activists. But when a common Google search results in a post that focuses on negative events that occurred some time ago, the reputation of the current hospital staff is damaged unfairly. Here, for example, the focus is on Shasta's former owners and whistleblower suits filed long before Prime took ownership. Ask yourself if this a fair accounting of the current operations. It isn't. As a paid consultant I don't have authority to change the page but I would hope that those who do understand the impact their work can have an institution's reputation. Here is a neutral way of approaching Shasta. I would be interested in hearing feedback: Opening Description

Shasta Regional Medical Center is one of two major hospitals that are located in Redding, California. It opened in 1945 and currently has 226 beds with an acute care facility and has become a regional medical center serving far Northern California.[1] It is also the first fully accredited chest pain center and has the first accredited nationally certified Stroke team in in northern California.

History

The hospital was the first in Redding California, opening its doors in 1945 as Memorial Hospital. It was purchased by Tenet Healthcare Corporation in 1976 and renamed Redding Medical Center. Tenet sold the hospital to Hospital Partners of America in 2004, and the hospital was purchased again in 2008 by Prime Healthcare Services. Shasta Regional Medical Center serves nine counties in Northern California.

Shasta Regional became certified as the first Chest Pain Center and became a Primary Stroke Center for the region in 2006.[citation needed] It was the first hospital in California and 11th in the nation to be certified as an Advanced Inpatient Diabetes Care hospital in 2010 by The Joint Commission.[citation needed]The hospital was named as a "Top Performer on Key Quality Measures" by The Joint Commission based on care and patient outcomes for Heart Attack, Heart Failure, Pneumonia and Surgical Care in 2010.[8] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kgkeane519 (talk • contribs) 21:18, 17 September 2018 (UTC) Kgkeane519 (talk) 21:20, 17 September 2018 (UTC)Kgkeane519 (talk) 21:29, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
 * I used Template:Request edit on your original talk page request so it will be more likely to be seen by other editors. Sections on relatively obscure articles' talk pages can frequently go unanswered, because very few or no editors watch the page. If you need to request more edits to articles you have a conflict of interest on, type  directly before your request.  Tera  TIX  23:33, 19 September 2018 (UTC)